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Title: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: 9andaWiggle on May 15, 2008, 04:15:31 AM
It's so nice to see an athlete that's not afraid to talk smack and let everyone know just how good he is!  It's been too long since someone has stood out from the neutered PC crowd and displayed some personality!  When you win you have earned the right to stand up and scream "HELL YEAH!", you don't have to fall to your knees and bawl like a little girl.

I want Sean to know that it's OK to talk smack.  It's OK to get in your opponents face and tell him about the whoopin' you just handed him.  It's OK to have testicles.  It's OK because it's not BORING.  It creates friction, drama, and excitement. It shows emotion and passion for the game. Best of all, it drives the PC crowd nuts!

Good for you Sean!  Keep knocking them down and telling your opponents how it is!

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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: MAJM on May 15, 2008, 12:19:59 PM
And he has the right to sit in his seat sulking when Linda Barnes beats him. He's the first man to lose to a woman in that type of setting. Way to go Rash!!
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Rileybowler on May 15, 2008, 12:20:15 PM
Well he also has the record for the first male pro being beat by a female bowler for a title, so he is in the record books for that feat. It was interesting to compare the difference in rev rates Lynda 175 to Sean's 425 or 455 , I guess that accuracy does pay off in the long run
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: SKIDSNAP on May 15, 2008, 12:34:10 PM
Okay so let's say I run an national cutting edge tech company.  Why would I want to spend my marketing dollars on a guy who when throwing a strike for NO MONEY against the national youth champion acts like a flaming moron.
 
WOW what a great role model he is for the youth!!!! What a great representative he is for the PBA.  "Join the PBA so you can competet with bungholios like this guy." That is professionalism???

How would my employees, who he would be representing feel, when our company's spokesman goes off like someone mental patient off of his meds.

Rash showed no respect for his opponent.
Rash showed no respect for the organization that he is a member of.

The real heroes on Saturday were Jenny Brown and Liz Johnson.
Both ladies let their bowling balls do the talking for them.  Compared to Jenny Brown Rash looked like an infant wanting a change of his messy diaper.  

Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: MAJM on May 15, 2008, 12:36:06 PM
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Okay so let's say I run an national cutting edge tech company.  Why would I want to spend my marketing dollars on a guy who when throwing a strike for NO MONEY against the national youth champion acts like a flaming moron.


The point many people, like 9, are forgetting. They're confusing emotion and passion with acting like a complete and utter azz.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: SKIDSNAP on May 15, 2008, 12:38:54 PM
I agree.  Listen to Lynda Barnes during the show.  Very loud very positive but all of it towards the pins and then "with" the crowd not in their face.
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Gene J Kanak on May 15, 2008, 12:45:05 PM
Well, if asking someone to show at least SOME class is being neutered and PC, I guess I better set my rocks on the chopping block because that's what I want. Am I saying that the game should be void of emotion? No. Am I saying guys can't get pumped up and into it? No. But I don't want finger wagging and in your face trash that's what the WWE, NBA, and NFL are for. What's next? Should bowlers flirt with their opponent's wives in the stands or break out a sharpie to sign autographs after throwing a double? Save that crap for the XBA. For me, I prefer to see the pros acting like they have been there before rather than acting like a bunch of ranting teenagers. But that's just me.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: lilmike2782 on May 15, 2008, 12:46:22 PM
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It's so nice to see an athlete that's not afraid to talk smack and let everyone know just how good he is!  It's been too long since someone has stood out from the neutered PC crowd and displayed some personality!  When you win you have earned the right to stand up and scream "HELL YEAH!", you don't have to fall to your knees and bawl like a little girl.

I want Sean to know that it's OK to talk smack.  It's OK to get in your opponents face and tell him about the whoopin' you just handed him.  It's OK to have testicles.  It's OK because it's not BORING.  It creates friction, drama, and excitement. It shows emotion and passion for the game. Best of all, it drives the PC crowd nuts!

Good for you Sean!  Keep knocking them down and telling your opponents how it is!

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now i am quite quiet when it comes to me personally bowling, but i get amped up when the team is doing great.  but i agree with 9~, get fired up, get loud, get proud.  let him embarass himself if thats how you feel he did, but if you are going to bowl competitively on the same level, then get ready for the same treatment the pros give other pros.

as for lynda barnes beating rash, so what.  it was great for lynda barnes, but i can bet that all you 220+ house averages would meet the same maker facing her or half of the ladies top bowlers, just as easy or worse.  nothing wrong with a woman beating a guy, no matter how arrogant you think he is.  wes lost to liz johnson in grand rapids, was sitting front row that day.  and i stood up and cheered her and wes on both the same.

just my .02.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Gene J Kanak on May 15, 2008, 01:04:43 PM
I understand what you're saying, lilmike, but you have to remember that he also respresents the PBA Tour and all of the other bowlers included therein. I'm not saying that means that you have to act like an emotionless droid, but you should keep yourself in some form of control.

The crux of this arguement comes down to the split between two very polar views. Some people feel that it's all or nothing. If you're stomping your feet, crotch-chopping, and jumping into the front row of the stands after a four-bagger, you're having fun and getting into it. Anything less means you're boring, PC, unemotional, etc, etc, etc. Personally, I feel there's a great deal more ground to be found between those two poles, but I've gotten into this argument enough times to know that I'll never be able to convince people like 9. I guess I'll just have to go on leading my neutered, PC, sack-less existence. It will be tough, but I'm sure I'll get through.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: lilmike2782 on May 15, 2008, 01:19:21 PM
don't get me wrong,  i like the guys that go out and throw a whoopin' on someone and still keep their composure and decency, but then again i also like to see some of the loud mouths, like rash, like pete as well.  i am not saying it is "right" for rash or any other to do that, and i am not saying its "wrong".  i am just saying that i like that emotion sometimes, and sometimes its funny as hell to see it when it goes over the top.  its a sport/game, whatever you want to call it, it 90% of the people on this site will never be affected personally by it ever.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: renaissanceman517kak on May 15, 2008, 01:24:12 PM
Having people with different personalities co-exist is what makes the world go around. I guess some folks think it would be nice for everyone to act the same way (i.e., the way THEY say), but that's not reality...
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: fins4ever88 on May 15, 2008, 01:24:18 PM
Why is everyone speaking as if Rash losing to Linda Barnes is such a shameful thing? If anything, bowling is one of the only sports where there is an even playing field for men and women. Congrats to Barnes, thankfully you didn't choke like your husband would've...
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: JessN16 on May 15, 2008, 01:31:06 PM
Gene,

You don't have to apologize for anything nor do you have to soften your words. Brash behavior is not acceptable in society. It's legal, but not acceptable.

People who think it is usually have too narrow a view of the consequences. About the only way you can get away with it is if you're your own boss, which Rash is to a great extent. The PBA may be his boss on paper but he's not going to get fired for having a bad tournament.

However, if you think it's "cool" or "exciting" to exhibit this kind of behavior, try it at your job sometime. Do it enough and you won't be able to afford groceries after awhile because most reasonable people won't tolerate that kind of junk.

Class is always preferable to in-your-face behavior. And, as a more immediate concern, I've never seen anyone tote a beatdown for being classy. But I've seen people get invited to the parking lot for a lot less than Rash did. I'm not saying a physical response to a verbal outburst is justified, but I am saying it's often a reality, because I've seen it happen.

If you want to live your life being looked down upon, be brash and intolerable. Just don't complain when people have a problem with your behavior.

Jess
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Gene J Kanak on May 15, 2008, 01:41:24 PM
Jess,

Your words are especially poignant when you consider that many of the guys on Tour aren't exactly intimidating phsyical specimens. I mean, yeah, you have Big Wes and a couple of other bigger guys, but there really isn't anyone out there who strikes fear into the hearts of the tiny, but that's beside the point.

I just don't like it when people equate trash talking or moronic behavior with whether or not a person cares about what they are doing. I once had a person in another thread tell me that I must never have competed in my life because I thought it was wrong for a pro bowler to act in the manner we're discussing. Again, unfortunately, some people just think that the two go hand in hand. I disagree.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: mainzer on May 15, 2008, 01:55:46 PM
okay first off to all the men on here, why is it bad to lose to a woman? You guys have never lost to a woman before? Who cares who he lost to. Second thing I see both sides of the story here, I have alot of emotion when I Bowl I love bowling and I am something of showman with anything and everything I do so I pump my fist I yell and show my emotion and enthusiam when I bowl. But somehow doing all of that makes me an a-hole in some peoples eyes. So I if he has the same passion for the sport as I do I understand why he yells and pumps his fist and gets fired up.

On the other hand I DO NOT tear up the local youth bowlers and rub their faces in crap after I do it. That display was senseless and disrespectful. If he beat some one like Pete Weber at say the U.S. Open I wouldn't have a problem but a Youth bowler give me a break
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: abrown on May 15, 2008, 02:14:17 PM
in all actuallity sean isnt the first man to loose to a women didnt liz johnson make it to the finals on tv a couple years ago
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: JessN16 on May 15, 2008, 02:14:29 PM
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Jess,

Your words are especially poignant when you consider that many of the guys on Tour aren't exactly intimidating phsyical specimens. I mean, yeah, you have Big Wes and a couple of other bigger guys, but there really isn't anyone out there who strikes fear into the hearts of the tiny, but that's beside the point.

I just don't like it when people equate trash talking or moronic behavior with whether or not a person cares about what they are doing. I once had a person in another thread tell me that I must never have competed in my life because I thought it was wrong for a pro bowler to act in the manner we're discussing. Again, unfortunately, some people just think that the two go hand in hand. I disagree.
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And let me say I don't think it's bad to show emotion. Tiger Woods shows a lot of emotion but I never feel like it's artificial in any way or that he's trying to show someone up -- or even showing them up by accident.

There's always a right and a wrong way to do something. Where some people in sports have gone wrong is that at one time, people cared about how they were perceived and would work on the nuances of their personality to ensure that even if they were being intense and emotional, they weren't coming across the wrong way. Now, you don't see that as much.

It's the inexperience of youth, in most cases. Some just haven't learned how to achieve balance yet. But others don't care to, and *those* are the ones that truly have an inner problem. Time will tell whether Rash is in Group A or Group B.

Jess
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: JessN16 on May 15, 2008, 02:15:18 PM
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in all actuallity sean isnt the first man to loose to a women didnt liz johnson make it to the finals on tv a couple years ago


Yep, went through Mallott, didn't she? Whoever it was fouled two or three times in the game, really weird stuff.

I think Tommy Jones beat her in the finals.

Jess
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: JoshY on May 15, 2008, 02:26:52 PM
YOU WANT SOME OF THIS!!!
COME ON!!!
WHERE YOU AT!!!
 
That was some of the most fabricated emotion I have ever witnessed. It might as well have been a robot yelling cliches. Not exciting,not manly, not even real. If that is exciting to you then you need to get out more.
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Joeyd on May 15, 2008, 02:43:00 PM
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YOU WANT SOME OF THIS!!!
COME ON!!!
WHERE YOU AT!!!
 
That was some of the most fabricated emotion I have ever witnessed. It might as well have been a robot yelling cliches. Not exciting,not manly, not even real. If that is exciting to you then you need to get out more.


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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: BowlingWolf on May 15, 2008, 02:54:48 PM
While I like Rash, I do think he's got a little growing up to do still.

It seems he likes to play head games.  Even in the match against Lynda, at one point when he threw a strike that wasn't exactly solid, he said to Lynda as she was up on the approach, one for you and one for me, referring to a fortunate strike Lynda had also thrown in the match before him, obviously trying to rattle her a little.  Didn't quite work, as she proceeded to throw more strikes.

As for losing to Lynda, it wasn't exactly as if he was lost, he made a pretty good first shot in the tenth frame, only not to carry the 10 pin had he carried it, who knows what woulda happened.  In a one game match, when 2 really good bowlers face each other, anything can happen.  No shame in such a loss.  Kudos to Lynda for punching out.

Sean's young, and hopefully he'll adjust his attitude a little so that more people will enjoy watching his eye-pleasing game.

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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Spartan on May 15, 2008, 03:14:09 PM
there is quite a thin line between getting amped up and acting like trash. tiger stays just shy of the line. rash just so happens to be a habitual line stepper. i mean, it's great to see someone have that burning desire to win. but class, class, class. i think sean will mature in the next few years, then he'll really be a force.

also, trying to rattle your opponent isn't really a bad thing, is it? he said it way before Lynda took her shot. now if he had said what he did during her approach/release, then we'd have some trouble.
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: BowlingWolf on May 15, 2008, 03:21:01 PM
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there is quite a thin line between getting amped up and acting like trash. tiger stays just shy of the line. rash just so happens to be a habitual line stepper. i mean, it's great to see someone have that burning desire to win. but class, class, class. i think sean will mature in the next few years, then he'll really be a force.

also, trying to rattle your opponent isn't really a bad thing, is it? he said it way before Lynda took her shot. now if he had said what he did during her approach/release, then we'd have some trouble.


Trying to rattle an opponent can have an adverse effect.  That is, your opponent may get amped up, and you might end up getting flustered.  Letting one's bowling do the talking is the way to go.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: trash heap on May 15, 2008, 03:35:15 PM
The thing I remember about PDW was he didn't errupted UNTIL he had a commanding lead. He didn't go crazy until he was +30 or +40 up in the match or if he had won it. If his opponent was keeping up with the strikes he would stay low.

If they are going to talk smack then start it up before the match! Telling your opposition you are going to crush them and then do it!! That's having balls NOT....I just won or I am going to win...NOW I can act like an AZZ!!!
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Djarum on May 15, 2008, 04:08:14 PM
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Okay so let's say I run an national cutting edge tech company.  Why would I want to spend my marketing dollars on a guy who when throwing a strike for NO MONEY against the national youth champion acts like a flaming moron.


The point many people, like 9, are forgetting. They're confusing emotion and passion with acting like a complete and utter azz.
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Cmon. Kinda crap is this. Look at how many professional atheletes act like azzes on TV or have criminal histories and are still getting huge sponsorships. As long as the audience likes the athelete, it doesn't matter. I agree with 9~ on this, its good to see something different than a bunch of bowlers with tampons up their butt. The reason I quit watching pro bowling is because it was always too "professional".



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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: SuperWatcher on May 15, 2008, 04:10:46 PM
Sean Rash is a breathe of fart air.
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: nutsforbowling on May 15, 2008, 04:18:12 PM
I am HOPING that 9~ was showing his sarcastic side. At least that's how I read his post. I am also hoping that when Rash watched hisself later, he saw just how much of a dope he was acting like. That is what is wrong with the younger generation, they have no respect for anything.

All they know is ME ME ME ME ME. Some people need to learn some respect.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: stormed1 on May 15, 2008, 05:59:56 PM
Lets not also forget that he was lucky to even be there considering he went through the nose and got 9 and also threw a brooklyn strike. Kind of reminds you of the Masters doesn't it?
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: strikealot on May 15, 2008, 06:03:56 PM
thats what 9 says to the sheep when he is chasing one..

 
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YOU WANT SOME OF THIS!!!
COME ON!!!
WHERE YOU AT!!!
 


rash is a piece of sheit..and 9 is just trying to stir the pot...
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Monster Pike on May 15, 2008, 06:10:26 PM
So now he earns the nickname "diaper".  I think he's trying to earn endorsements for Pampers or Huggies.  Maybe it'll work.  But I still think he's a d!@k.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Krakken on May 15, 2008, 06:25:07 PM
Nice to see him cuss the lane guy out when he comes off of a bad set too. Witnessed that one personally. Class act he is....NOT!!!!!

Look at Parker and WRW and learn a little bit of class.

Need excitement, but not like that.  Hell TJ pumps the crowd up but doesn't act like a idiot.
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: MAJM on May 15, 2008, 06:28:03 PM
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Cmon. Kinda crap is this. Look at how many professional athletes act like azzes on TV or have criminal histories and are still getting huge sponsorships. As long as the audience likes the athlete, it doesn't matter. I agree with 9~ on this, its good to see something different than a bunch of bowlers with tampons up their butt. The reason I quit watching pro bowling is because it was always too "professional".


I think Sean Rash went overboard. He looked stupid. I'm not a fan of Sean Rash but this is the only time I had a problem with him doing something like this.

Don't change the subject. This isn't about the other athletes that act like an azz. This is about Rash. What he did was the equivalent to a CB tackling a WR short of the first down and jumping up and acting crazy while his team is 20 points down.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: gbrown on May 15, 2008, 06:33:58 PM
Just got home and watch this event and saw nothing wrong with Rash.  He didn't brush the guy off he was just excited that he now was that much closer to winning 50 grand.  It look like fun to me.  Just my 2cents
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: fins4ever88 on May 15, 2008, 06:43:34 PM
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Don't change the subject. This isn't about the other athletes that act like an azz. This is about Rash. What he did was the equivalent to a CB tackling a WR short of the first down and jumping up and acting crazy while his team is 20 points down.
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Really? That's a horrible analogy. Now I didn't watch the Clash, but to my understanding Rash won and was celebrating his win (or his strike that moved him on).

If anything, it's more like a CB landing a huge hit on a WR at the end of the game when their team was 20 points up.

This reminds me of everyone making a big fuss of Joba Chamberlain striking out David Delucci and "over-celebrating". Big freaking deal. They accomplished something and celebrated it the way they know how.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: ccrider on May 15, 2008, 07:16:04 PM
It takes  all kinds. Rash was within his rights. So what if he got crunk? So what if he was playing a yungsta. If the kid can't stand the heat he should not be in the kitchen.

And for all of you wussess that do'nt understand why there is a problem with Barnes, a woman, beating the dog pp out Rash, your man card is hereby REVOKED!


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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Maine Man on May 15, 2008, 07:17:31 PM
Anyone who's missing their front tooth should try and keep their mouth shut as much as possible, especially on national tv.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: fins4ever88 on May 15, 2008, 07:19:26 PM
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Anyone who's missing their front tooth should try and keep their mouth shut as much as possible, especially on national tv.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on May 15, 2008, 07:32:30 PM
To me there is a big difference between being exciting and WAAAAAY overdoing it to the point of it becoming awkward and tacky.  Especially when you throw a couple strikes to advance in a gimmicky kind of one ball roll-off thingy.

I thought it was a great show however and I don't see what the big deal is about Rash losing to Barnes.  I guess revoke my man card.

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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Maine Man on May 15, 2008, 07:37:47 PM
Anyone can be beaten on any given day, man or woman.  To think that Rash is now less "manly" now that he lost to Barnes is just ignorant and stupid.  I would like to say that I competed against and almost beat one of the top bowlers in the US, if not the world in Lynda Barnes.  She earned the win, and deserves the accolades, end of story.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on May 15, 2008, 07:41:45 PM
I thought it was cool because they mentioned the "advantage" of the revs but then her ball looked like it was hitting plenty hard enough.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Spider Man on May 15, 2008, 08:41:51 PM
Anyone who's missing their front tooth should try and keep their mouth shut as much as possible, especially on national tv.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: ccrider on May 15, 2008, 09:00:43 PM
So be it. MAN CARD REVOKED ------ SISSY!!!!

I thought it was a great show however and I don't see what the big deal is about Rash losing to Barnes.  I guess revoke my man card.

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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: BowlingWolf on May 16, 2008, 11:06:14 AM
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I thought it was cool because they mentioned the "advantage" of the revs but then her ball looked like it was hitting plenty hard enough.
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It doesn't matter how many revs a ball can have through-out the lane what matters most is what kind of kick/finish it has on the backend, and Lynda's ball certainly has plenty as evidenced by last week's show and the Queens tournament a couple of weeks ago.

quote:

I thought it was a great show however and I don't see what the big deal is about Rash losing to Barnes. I guess revoke my man card  

Your "man card" is intact.  Those that have a problem with seeing things as they are and have a problem admitting to the truth are the ones that never had a man card to begin with.

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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: MAJM on May 16, 2008, 11:14:01 AM
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Don't change the subject. This isn't about the other athletes that act like an azz. This is about Rash. What he did was the equivalent to a CB tackling a WR short of the first down and jumping up and acting crazy while his team is 20 points down.
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Really? That's a horrible analogy. Now I didn't watch the Clash, but to my understanding Rash won and was celebrating his win (or his strike that moved him on).

If anything, it's more like a CB landing a huge hit on a WR at the end of the game when their team was 20 points up.

This reminds me of everyone making a big fuss of Joba Chamberlain striking out David Delucci and "over-celebrating". Big freaking deal. They accomplished something and celebrated it the way they know how.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Danes07 on May 16, 2008, 11:18:59 AM
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Nice to see him cuss the lane guy out when he comes off of a bad set too. Witnessed that one personally. Class act he is....NOT!!!!!

Look at Parker and WRW and learn a little bit of class.

Need excitement, but not like that.  Hell TJ pumps the crowd up but doesn't act like a idiot.


What a whiny little azz.  I really hope the laneman gave it right back to him.  He's a professional and has no one to blame but himself if he didn't score well.

Personally I don't like Rash's attitude.  I have absolutely no problem getting pumpled up when you win a match or a title.  Do it in a respectful way.  There are lots of other guys out there that get pumped when they win and don't make themselves look completely classless the way Rash does.  Even Pete Weber, who we all know can  get pretty jacked up, is also one of the classiest competitors whether he wins or loses.  Anyone ever listen to the things he says to a guy he just finished bowling against?  In that respect, he is a true professional in every sense of the word.

If Rash would just watch some of the guys around him like Norm Duke, Parker Bohn, Wes Malott, Mika and many others....they show emotion and get pumped up when they win but they still manage to be completely professional and respectful about it.

His nickname definately fits.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: baccala8872 on May 16, 2008, 11:22:06 AM
I'm really not sure who among us is the most qualified to diagnose what "raw emotion", "contrived emotion", "spontaneous emotion", or "showing up" really are.  Since those are subjective things and are subject to an individual's individuality and makeup, who are we to classify?

If you wouldn't act like that, congratulations, that's wonderful for you.  But, I'm not going to hold raw emotion over someone's head.  Whether it's Joba, Tiger, Rash, etc., it really doesn't matter.  If there's reaction after an "accomplishment", then that's what it is, a reaction.

You, as the opponent [if the case should so happen], have to opportunity to react.  So, go out and beat his big mouth!!  If at the end you don't, then shut up, pack your bag and leave the spotlight to the better person who went out and beat you.


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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: ccrider on May 16, 2008, 11:32:15 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well stated.


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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Djarum on May 16, 2008, 12:36:39 PM
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Cmon. Kinda crap is this. Look at how many professional athletes act like azzes on TV or have criminal histories and are still getting huge sponsorships. As long as the audience likes the athlete, it doesn't matter. I agree with 9~ on this, its good to see something different than a bunch of bowlers with tampons up their butt. The reason I quit watching pro bowling is because it was always too "professional".


I think Sean Rash went overboard. He looked stupid. I'm not a fan of Sean Rash but this is the only time I had a problem with him doing something like this.

Don't change the subject. This isn't about the other athletes that act like an azz. This is about Rash. What he did was the equivalent to a CB tackling a WR short of the first down and jumping up and acting crazy while his team is 20 points down.
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I disagree. I've seen other atheletes act much, much worse on tv. Why should bowling be held to some holy standard? I've seen PDW act worse on tv.

Again, too many people with items shoved up their rearend to have a little fun.

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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Gene J Kanak on May 16, 2008, 12:48:00 PM
DJ,

I have plenty of fun while bowling, but I don't act like a knob-job. Tommy Jones gets pumped up on TV he slaps his hands together, pumps up the crowd, etc, but he doesn't look like a putz. When you look at it, most of the guys who make the show are somewhat demonstrative. The difference here is that there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed, and it seems obvious that Brash Rash just doesn't always know how to keep from crossing them.

If you think that's fun to watch, good for you have fun watching it. Personally, I don't need to see THAT kind of emotion in order for the telecast to be interesting, just like I don't need to see stupid endzone celebrations or poses in order to enjoy watching football.

In the end, it really doesn't matter what any of us think anyhow. It is how his peers react that makes the differene because they are the ones who he's going to hear it from.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Danes07 on May 16, 2008, 12:55:33 PM
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DJ,

I have plenty of fun while bowling, but I don't act like a knob-job. Tommy Jones gets pumped up on TV he slaps his hands together, pumps up the crowd, etc, but he doesn't look like a putz. When you look at it, most of the guys who make the show are somewhat demonstrative. The difference here is that there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed, and it seems obvious that Brash Rash just doesn't always know how to keep from crossing them.

If you think that's fun to watch, good for you have fun watching it. Personally, I don't need to see THAT kind of emotion in order for the telecast to be interesting, just like I don't need to see stupid endzone celebrations or poses in order to enjoy watching football.

In the end, it really doesn't matter what any of us think anyhow. It is how his peers react that makes the differene because they are the ones who he's going to hear it from.
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Gene, you just said exactly what I was saying above, but you said it a whole lot better!  Could not agree with you more man.  I enjoy seeing emotion, but emotion without making yourself look like a complete knucklehead.  Tommy Jones does get pumped up and gets the crowd going, but he doesn't do it when he is beating up on his opponent.  He's also polite to a fault and very courteous to those he bowls against.  Very enjoyable guy to watch.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: BowlingWolf on May 16, 2008, 01:17:11 PM
It is not always easy to harness one’s emotions.

I’m sure Sean has received some flaming from his competition peers through the years, and he has probably toned down his reactions some.

To say that the kid is a jerk because he’s fiery, well that’s just more inflammatory that his demonstrative ways, since those making such remarks have had the time to think about what they are saying, as opposed to Sean’s impromptu reactions, and still don’t mince words, but rather vent much disapproval.

I’m sure you’ve all also seen Sean cry on television.  Should he try to suppress that emotion as well, which clearly shows that he’s a very sensitive person???

As far as I know, the kid hasn’t directly hurt any one in any way either verbally or physically, unlike some other sports superstars out there that are still being adored for their playing.

Sean displays many different emotions at the highest level on television.  

This fact doesn’t make him a bad guy.  

And it also doesn’t make him a contrived robot.

Give the kid a break.

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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: 9andaWiggle on May 16, 2008, 02:00:45 PM
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I’m sure you’ve all also seen Sean cry on television.


This disturbs me.  Here I thought Sean was a man, only to find out his man card should have been revoked a long time ago!  I just lost a little respect for this "guy".

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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: Djarum on May 16, 2008, 03:09:08 PM
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DJ,

I have plenty of fun while bowling, but I don't act like a knob-job. Tommy Jones gets pumped up on TV he slaps his hands together, pumps up the crowd, etc, but he doesn't look like a putz. When you look at it, most of the guys who make the show are somewhat demonstrative. The difference here is that there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed, and it seems obvious that Brash Rash just doesn't always know how to keep from crossing them.

If you think that's fun to watch, good for you have fun watching it. Personally, I don't need to see THAT kind of emotion in order for the telecast to be interesting, just like I don't need to see stupid endzone celebrations or poses in order to enjoy watching football.

In the end, it really doesn't matter what any of us think anyhow. It is how his peers react that makes the differene because they are the ones who he's going to hear it from.
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Gene, you just said exactly what I was saying above, but you said it a whole lot better!  Could not agree with you more man.  I enjoy seeing emotion, but emotion without making yourself look like a complete knucklehead.  Tommy Jones does get pumped up and gets the crowd going, but he doesn't do it when he is beating up on his opponent.  He's also polite to a fault and very courteous to those he bowls against.  Very enjoyable guy to watch.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: D-Hammer on May 16, 2008, 03:21:21 PM
i agree you with you.
besides anybody could have lost to barnes.
these guys just need to shut up.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: ccrider on May 16, 2008, 06:14:15 PM
You guys need to get off of your high horses. Rash has committed no crime. Who are you to tell him how to celebrate? If you don't like it, there is a button on your TV that you can us, turn it off, or change the channel. Stop pissing and moaning because he was not as courteous in victory as you would have had him to be. He won, you didn't. Truth be told, he can take all of you critics.

He never claimed to be your children's role model. What he did is no worse than Weber's crotch chop which I also found entertaining.

Quit complaining, you bunch of whining sissys.
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: BrianCRX90 on May 16, 2008, 07:01:15 PM
I have no problem at all with Rash. I think he's the future of the PBA. Watch out for next season because he's going to tear it up. He may be young and has emotions but at least he's not a dick like old washed up Eugune McCune.
Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: MAJM on May 16, 2008, 07:14:32 PM
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Cmon. Kinda crap is this. Look at how many professional athletes act like azzes on TV or have criminal histories and are still getting huge sponsorships. As long as the audience likes the athlete, it doesn't matter. I agree with 9~ on this, its good to see something different than a bunch of bowlers with tampons up their butt. The reason I quit watching pro bowling is because it was always too "professional".


I think Sean Rash went overboard. He looked stupid. I'm not a fan of Sean Rash but this is the only time I had a problem with him doing something like this.

Don't change the subject. This isn't about the other athletes that act like an azz. This is about Rash. What he did was the equivalent to a CB tackling a WR short of the first down and jumping up and acting crazy while his team is 20 points down.
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I disagree. I've seen other athletes act much, much worse on tv. Why should bowling be held to some holy standard? I've seen PDW act worse on tv.

Again, too many people with items shoved up their rearend to have a little fun.

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I agree about PDW. I have said about Rash that I didn't have a problem with what he did at first, but then he crossed a line where emotion and having fun turned into him acting like an azz. There was a point where it went from "real emotion" to "contrived emotion". Again, I didn't have a problem with him at first but he crossed a line to where he looked stupid. Have all the emotion you want but couple that with the "act like you've been there before" mentality.

Rash has stated he wants to be the "Tiger Woods" of bowling. Tiger displays that type of emotion winning a tournament not make a 35 ft putt on hole #5 of the first round. If Rash acted like that after winning the gimmick show, I don't have a problem. Because he won something.

(On a side not I should be able to type azz with 2 s)
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Title: Re: Sean Rash is a breath of fresh air
Post by: MAJM on May 16, 2008, 07:16:42 PM
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I’m sure you’ve all also seen Sean cry on television.


This disturbs me.  Here I thought Sean was a man, only to find out his man card should have been revoked a long time ago!  I just lost a little respect for this "guy".

Only Women and Children Cry over games.

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