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lilpossum1

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Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« on: December 15, 2014, 08:01:05 AM »
This whole winter league, the lane conditions have been awful! It is not that the league has a hard shot, it is just awful with carry down. Not burnt up lanes, actual carry down left over from prior leagues and open bowling. The lanes are stripped completely for the Tuesday league, the back ends are stripped for Thursday, and then more oil is just squirted on the lane for the rest of the leagues. By the time Sunday rolls around, the lanes are shot. I can't get a ball to roll through the pocket. I can get a ball to hook, but with no drive or hit. I watched a friend bowl on another pair last night, and his ball didn't even read any dry part of the lane. The rotation was the same from his hand all the way to the end of the pin deck. I am not asking for an easy THS, just a shot where I can be rewarded with a strike on a perfectly thrown ball

 

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2014, 09:24:27 AM »
Hopefully you feel better now. Its good to get things out.

What you described used to be the order of operations at my local center 20 years ago. 

Not much you can do, just bowl and make the most of it. These conditions should make you better at picking up spares.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2014, 09:52:58 AM »
I feel like I cannot win any games for our team, but I can sure lose them for us. If I make all my spares or almost all of them, I make average. If I somehow put a few strikes together by luck, I am a little above average, and we may win. If I miss a few spares, I am under average. I can't strike enough to throw a good game on these conditions. It is up to my two left handed teammates and my lower average right handed teammate to win the games, and it is all by those three making spares more than usual.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2014, 10:21:42 AM »
I feel like I cannot win any games for our team, but I can sure lose them for us. If I make all my spares or almost all of them, I make average. If I somehow put a few strikes together by luck, I am a little above average, and we may win. If I miss a few spares, I am under average. I can't strike enough to throw a good game on these conditions. It is up to my two left handed teammates and my lower average right handed teammate to win the games, and it is all by those three making spares more than usual.


So you are the only one having to play on the "crappy" conditions? I've never heard of a league where each bowler has their own lane.
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2014, 10:23:35 AM »
I feel like I cannot win any games for our team, but I can sure lose them for us. If I make all my spares or almost all of them, I make average. If I somehow put a few strikes together by luck, I am a little above average, and we may win. If I miss a few spares, I am under average. I can't strike enough to throw a good game on these conditions. It is up to my two left handed teammates and my lower average right handed teammate to win the games, and it is all by those three making spares more than usual.

There is no "I" in team.  You win together and lose together.  If you keep using flawed logic (black/white thinking) you'll never see that it's a combination of you AND them (YOU can strike more and THEY can make more spares etc).

As to the OP:

I am not asking for an easy THS, just a shot where I can be rewarded with a strike on a perfectly thrown ball

Are you sure you're throwing "perfectly"?

I believe there is a solution/correct adjustments to the pattern.  It sounds like you're wanting the conditions to adjust to you as opposed to you adjusting to the conditions. 

After bowling on some of the most difficult PBA/Sport patterns as I have over the summers.....it's hard for me to complain about ANY THS that carries down/burns up/gets spotty/wet-dry etc.......

I think the issue is a confidence issue (few strikes together BY LUCK) as opposed to the pattern.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2014, 10:27:30 AM by Good Times Good Times »
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2014, 11:20:47 AM »
It's apples and oranges, but the mental approach to any difficult situation is very similar. Golf condition and Bowling conditions, they are not the same, but their "conditions" can either make you or break you, it's up to you and who you want to be that day. There are things we cannot change, but sometimes you have to swim with the current in order to reach the shore.....

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2014, 11:38:16 AM »
Every person in the league that throws a hook has a lower average now than they usually do. My average is 10 pins lower, both left handers on my team are 20-30 pins lower, and the other right handed on my team is 10-20 pins lower, all from an inability to throw strikes. I can and do adjust. I don't expect the shot to adjust to me. The 215-220 average bowler on the league is averaging 196, and is the highest average bowler on the league. All the 190+ average bowlers are in the low 180's. I am not the problem here. There have been no 700's shot. There have been two 250+ games shot, with one of them by me on one of two nights where I actually did have a shot, and the other was shot last night on another pair, and nearly every one of his strikes was a light mixer or a tripped 5 pin. By winning a game for my team, I mean throwing a game a fair amount of pins over average. It is the way it is said in my area. I am not so vain as to take credit for a win all by myself.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2014, 11:46:13 AM »
It is not that I feel like I am entitled to good scores, I just feel like it is a bunch of crap that bowlers on this league have nothing to show for when they throw the ball well.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2014, 01:16:23 PM »
I just feel like it is a bunch of crap that bowlers on this league have nothing to show for when they throw the ball well.

You're missing my point.  If you're really "throwing it well" you will have something to show for it.   "Throwing it well" is all relative to the condition you're on. 
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2014, 01:38:03 PM »
I can understand that if it was a handful of the league bowlers being unable to score, but the whole league? I have tried different balls at different surfaces. I have thrown everywhere from pointing the ball at the pocket from the right gutter to center arrow throwing two handed. I have thrown with speed and thrown it slowly. Best I have thrown is 620 something, and it is one of the higher series on the league

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2014, 01:58:21 PM »
I can understand that if it was a handful of the league bowlers being unable to score, but the whole league? I have tried different balls at different surfaces. I have thrown everywhere from pointing the ball at the pocket from the right gutter to center arrow throwing two handed. I have thrown with speed and thrown it slowly. Best I have thrown is 620 something, and it is one of the higher series on the league.

Then that IS a high score if the scoring pace is so low for everyone.  At that point it's a premium on a solid spare game and about managing the overall game and the pocket. 

Count me among the few that would rather work for 650, rather than knowing I threw it bad and still shoot 700+.

It honestly does sound to me like you want the conditions adjust so the scoring pace can rise. 
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2014, 02:12:27 PM »
I would love to bowl on a sport shot league because I know I have to be precise with my shots based on the design of the shot, but what I don't want to bowl on is a nearly impossible shot that is left over from three leagues and weekend open bowling, just because the lanes are not stripped.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2014, 02:15:53 PM »
I would love to bowl on a sport shot league because I know I have to be precise with my shots based on the design of the shot, but what I don't want to bowl on is a nearly impossible shot that is left over from three leagues and weekend open bowling, just because the lanes are not stripped.

What does the house tell you when you express this to them?
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2014, 02:26:40 PM »
If you dropped just 10 pins, then you need to work on your spare game.
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2014, 02:27:29 PM »
If you want to bowl on the fresh join a Tuesday league, not Sunday.  Problem solved.