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lilpossum1

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Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« on: December 15, 2014, 08:01:05 AM »
This whole winter league, the lane conditions have been awful! It is not that the league has a hard shot, it is just awful with carry down. Not burnt up lanes, actual carry down left over from prior leagues and open bowling. The lanes are stripped completely for the Tuesday league, the back ends are stripped for Thursday, and then more oil is just squirted on the lane for the rest of the leagues. By the time Sunday rolls around, the lanes are shot. I can't get a ball to roll through the pocket. I can get a ball to hook, but with no drive or hit. I watched a friend bowl on another pair last night, and his ball didn't even read any dry part of the lane. The rotation was the same from his hand all the way to the end of the pin deck. I am not asking for an easy THS, just a shot where I can be rewarded with a strike on a perfectly thrown ball

 

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2014, 05:05:22 AM »
What I hate is not know I can strike when the chips are on the line. I know I can make the best possible shot, and it will probably be a good shot, but whether it strikes is up to the bowling gods.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2014, 06:20:19 AM »
Your expectations for somebody at your skill level are unreasonable.  It's time to be a little more realistic.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #33 on: December 16, 2014, 12:17:41 PM »
Lanes are to be conditioned to protect the lanes not to enhance or facilitate a scoring environment....we've forgotten the factor 30 some odd years ago

Rico,

While that is very true, it is, in a great many cases, no longer the situation.

Too many bowling center managers are either not educated in the business of bowling lane maintenance or they are too concerned with the bottom line. In some case, the manager works under both of these "false economies".

I've found this to be true in privately owned houses, in AMF/Bowlmor houses, in Brunswick owned houses and in Nationwide Bowling owned houses. They put so little oil out that it cannot possibly protect the lane surface. I have used freshly polished balls and after one league session, the polish is worn away along the first inch or so of my track. The ball had to be re-polished. That is totally counter-productive, in my eyes. And one of these houses had relatively fresh synthetics that were 2 years old at the time, in case you thought it was an old worn lane surface that was causing this.

I am not saying every house is like this; many are properly oiled. But there are far too many that think they are saving money by stinting on the amount of oil they use.
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #34 on: December 16, 2014, 12:45:19 PM »
Just curious Charlest,

Do you loft?  Because at our AMF centers there is no oil the first 3 feet of the lane surface after the foul line!  For Safety.

As a bowler who's lofting ability is one of his weakest areas this has been a real problem for me....Practicing, training to add loft here!

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2014, 12:48:04 PM »
Charlest not disagreeing...one of the last centers I worked at, the house shot was 100 units in the middle-10 to 10 and 4 units outside...the new synthetics that are supposed to last for 20 yrs lasted abt 5-7 barely...
Less conditioner properly protects the surface...unproperly ruins the surface as you've seen...
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #36 on: December 16, 2014, 03:15:38 PM »
Actually, my supreme self confidence is exactly the reason why I do want the ball in my hands in a tight game. I know my limits, and if another teams anchor bowler is a better bowler than I am, I am determined to put up a fight. That is why I am the anchor bowler on my leagues. My self confidence and determination are why I excel and chess and billiards. I hold high expectations for myself, and I am determined to meet them.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2014, 05:00:54 PM »
My self confidence and determination are why I excel and chess and billiards. I hold high expectations for myself, and I am determined to meet them.

Then you should ALSO recognize that the conditions are the same for everyone and that the better bowlers are able to adopt a mindset that overcomes a lower-scoring condition.  My favorite regionals were actually the ones where you had to scratch and claw to be at par after 12 games...in fact, at High Point one year, -2 LED the tournament after qualifying. 

This whole thread reeks of the 'waaaah...I am not posting monster numbers...these lanes suck' mindset. 

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #38 on: December 16, 2014, 05:23:05 PM »
Oh well. I am just bearing it until the end of the season. I really hate seeing 60 feet of skid throwing sanded equipment. I am really seeing why most people refuse to bowl at this house. Well, aside from equipment getting torn up.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2014, 05:38:39 PM »
You should be, if you are a stellar performer, want the lanes varied...when I was at my best I bowled at as many different centers as I could so not to get acclimated to any one condition

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2014, 05:43:30 PM »
What is your normal release, and have you changed that? Meaning, have you tried less "side" rotation (for lack of a better term for it) and tried coming more up the back of it to force forward roll in the pocket? Maybe combine with slightly slower speed to get as much traction as possible to reduce deflection.
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2014, 06:36:24 PM »
I bowl tournaments in the various houses in the area, and when we go on road trips, I take a bowling ball with me and bowl in houses near the hotels. I have come up the back of the ball as well as coming around it more. I have gotten the ball down sooner as well as used more loft. I have raised and lowered speed. My best result was 20 mph at the pin deck. Rocket to the pocket.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2014, 07:03:41 PM »
Thought I'd mention it, just in case. Other than that, I'm out of ideas.
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2014, 10:04:00 PM »
I have tried literally everything I can think of. When I throw without a thumb one handed, I have an extremely high rev rate. As high of a rev rate as I have ever seen outside of YouTube videos. Still no drive. I am not exaggerating when I say that the shot is stupid. Yes, everyone is playing on it, but honestly, there is no way to play the lanes well. I am one of the top averages because I have one of the best spare games on the league. Except for the night I shot 366 and dropped my average 5 pins in the middle of the season. I chopped almost every spare that night. It was bad, and I wish I knew what I did wrong all night

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2014, 06:27:04 AM »
You shot 366 and think you know something about the shot.  Dude, just stop.  The more you post the sillier you are making yourself look, if that is possible.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2014, 07:34:03 AM »
Video perhaps?
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