Author Topic: Smoke Free Bowling Alleys..... (Read 10766 times)

badnuzjr · « **on:** February 26, 2008, 04:13:05 AM »

I hear more and more about bowling alleys starting to go smoke free, some completely and others during certain hours. However, here in Iowa they are debating a statewide ban on public smoking...I won't dish out all the details but this would include all bowling alleys.

So my question is, would you actually give up bowling if you couldn't smoke while you did it?
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Kid Jete · « **Reply #61 on:** February 26, 2008, 09:35:59 PM »

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Why should public places be smoke free? Its the public. Why not make a law that says kids have to be on leashes.. They keep taking away our rights as people. It is the customers option to decide if they want to go in there. If businesses are smart enough they will make a smoke free section so they can do something about it. The business isnt forcing you to go in there. I work in a bowling alley and I know what it is like and there are ways to help this situation and not take away a persons right.

I agree with "Lane1bwler300". I have never smoked, and while I prefer not to smell like an ashtray, I don't like the "big-brother" mentality that is fueling the smoking bans.

Today it's smoking. Tomorrow it will be gum-chewing, or loud talking, or eating messy chees-fries.

Better to just make smoking illegal. At least you would have to get a majority vote for that, rather than some arbitrary decision by lawmakers responding to the "squeakier wheels"... aka the vocal non-smoking public.

Again... I am a non-smoker, do not approve of smoking, prefer when people don;t smoke, and do not allow it in my car. But in public places...so long as it is a legal activity, I strongly disagree with the bans being imposed on smokers.

My 2 cents.

I still can't believe responses like this. While "loud talking" might annoy you it has absolutely nothing in common with second hand smoke and neither does food, chewing gum or anything else. It cracks me up that people like you agree that you don't like smoke, don't let people smoke around you and don't smoke yourselves yet you don't like the bans because you disagree with how they were put in place. And just an FYI for you... in Ohio the VOTERS passed the law. Last time I checked it takes the majority to pass a new law. I'm assuming most of the other states that have no smoking bans went about it the same way. Not sure why you think the lawmakers "imposed" the bans on the poor 30% of the population that chooses to die from lung cancer.

Platinum Bowler · « **Reply #62 on:** February 26, 2008, 10:07:56 PM »

Here in Cali, smoking has been banned every where in public buildings, and it has been that way for quite awhile now. It has probably been 10 or more years since they banned it in the bowling alleys. I can hardly remember now when you could smoke in the alley since I was such a little tike then!
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Rick Wunder · « **Reply #63 on:** February 27, 2008, 08:28:14 AM »

I find it interesting that all the discussion is along the lines of people quitting bowling if they were prohibited from smoking in bowling centers. Does anyone consider quitting smoking, instead?
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Phoneman · « **Reply #64 on:** February 27, 2008, 08:34:06 AM »

Rick funny you mentioned that. I am one who has quit smoking a little over 100 days ago. Not only because I couldn't smoke in the center but I know I needed to give up a disgusting habit. I think the amount of smokers in all of my leagues has dropped significantly since the smoking ban in MD went into effect jan 1 but I also live in a county that put the ban in place last year. It is very nice to be smoke free.

Dan Belcher · « **Reply #65 on:** February 27, 2008, 08:42:36 AM »

Smoking in public locations has been banned here as well, and it's great. I used to work in a bowling alley in high school when they still allowed smoking there, and it made it physically difficult to breath at times. That is not just a health concern, but a HUGE health problem for everyone in the alley, smokers and non-smokers alike. While it certainly sucks for smokers they have no choice anymore, the positives of the smoking ban greatly outweight the negatives.

myrddin97 · « **Reply #66 on:** February 27, 2008, 08:47:40 AM »

I know the owner of my center had been considering going smoke free for a couple years because he was losing buisness from the "family/church" crowd, but was somewhat worried about the smokers and if he would alienate them. But with Illinois going smoke free on 1/1, he didn't have to make that decision. I'm not sure if buisness is up, but I know I don't have to worry about smelling like an ash tray after league.
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spmcgivern · « **Reply #67 on:** February 27, 2008, 08:58:39 AM »

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Why should public places be smoke free? Its the public. Why not make a law that says kids have to be on leashes.. They keep taking away our rights as people. It is the customers option to decide if they want to go in there. If businesses are smart enough they will make a smoke free section so they can do something about it. The business isnt forcing you to go in there. I work in a bowling alley and I know what it is like and there are ways to help this situation and not take away a persons right.

I agree with "Lane1bwler300". I have never smoked, and while I prefer not to smell like an ashtray, I don't like the "big-brother" mentality that is fueling the smoking bans.

Today it's smoking. Tomorrow it will be gum-chewing, or loud talking, or eating messy chees-fries.

Better to just make smoking illegal. At least you would have to get a majority vote for that, rather than some arbitrary decision by lawmakers responding to the "squeakier wheels"... aka the vocal non-smoking public.

Again... I am a non-smoker, do not approve of smoking, prefer when people don;t smoke, and do not allow it in my car. But in public places...so long as it is a legal activity, I strongly disagree with the bans being imposed on smokers.

My 2 cents.

I still can't believe responses like this. While "loud talking" might annoy you it has absolutely nothing in common with second hand smoke and neither does food, chewing gum or anything else. It cracks me up that people like you agree that you don't like smoke, don't let people smoke around you and don't smoke yourselves yet you don't like the bans because you disagree with how they were put in place. And just an FYI for you... in Ohio the VOTERS passed the law. Last time I checked it takes the majority to pass a new law. I'm assuming most of the other states that have no smoking bans went about it the same way. Not sure why you think the lawmakers "imposed" the bans on the poor 30% of the population that chooses to die from lung cancer.

Before you get all huffy-puffy about rules against so called "loud talking," if something is distracting, I wouldn't be surprised if it were banned. Case in point: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332648,00.html

I remember bowling a college tournament when fans from one of the schools brought those loud blow-up clappers and used them everytime one of their bowlers got a spare or strike. It became a hot topic on the college bowling forums and caused some heated discussions with fans, bowlers and parents. So how does this relate to smoking? Whether smoking is allowed or not allowed, I think it becomes a case of common courtesy. If the center allows smoking, be considerate to those that don't and if they don't, be considerate of those who wish to go outside and smoke.
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RealBowler · « **Reply #68 on:** February 27, 2008, 12:30:18 PM »

If I had access to smoke-free bowling, I might actually start bowling again.
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ccrider · « **Reply #69 on:** February 27, 2008, 12:57:07 PM »

No ban in AL. I wish there was one. My 10 and 12 year old should not have to suffer to bowl, not to mention there dad.
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golfnutFL · « **Reply #70 on:** February 27, 2008, 02:55:31 PM »

Here in Florida, it wasn't the "government" that made the decision, it was the voters of the state of Florida. We, the people, voted and passed, with 75% of the vote!!!, a constitutional amendment banning smoking in public places.

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I smoke cigars while I bowl, but if I couldn't it wouldn't keep me from bowling. I really don't care either way. I'm used to going home smelling like smoke, whether I have a cigar or not. If it does get banned, I just hope it's because the bowling alley made the decision, and not the government.

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jls · « **Reply #71 on:** February 27, 2008, 03:03:30 PM »

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We just switched in the state of Illinois. Bars and everything....I love it!!!!!!!! Makes the day go a little longer, due to smoke breaks.... But, I really like it. Heck I can even wear a jacket inside without it smelling like @ss afterwards.
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I have heard from many who left the game, now saying that they are coming back to bowling. Of course the hard core smoker's are complaining. But as this person posted, you don't have to burn your clothes when you leave the bowling alley.

In the long run, I think the smoking ban will increase overall play in bowling.
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Oldlefty · « **Reply #72 on:** February 27, 2008, 03:06:16 PM »

Washington state has a statewide ban on smoking and it is great. I can go to bars and smell the next day! Also there is a 50' radius from any door or drive up window. It was a state vote and won by a huge majority.

It does slow bowling down a little when you have some guys run out every third shot, but I guess they just take a couple of puffs put it out and relite it again.

beginner_bowler · « **Reply #73 on:** February 27, 2008, 04:02:41 PM »

We have 1 center that is Smoke free all the time, and about 3 others that I know are smoke free till 5 pm. Lot of good that does just in time for my league

Kid Jete · « **Reply #74 on:** February 27, 2008, 04:08:46 PM »

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Why should public places be smoke free? Its the public. Why not make a law that says kids have to be on leashes.. They keep taking away our rights as people. It is the customers option to decide if they want to go in there. If businesses are smart enough they will make a smoke free section so they can do something about it. The business isnt forcing you to go in there. I work in a bowling alley and I know what it is like and there are ways to help this situation and not take away a persons right.

I agree with "Lane1bwler300". I have never smoked, and while I prefer not to smell like an ashtray, I don't like the "big-brother" mentality that is fueling the smoking bans.

Today it's smoking. Tomorrow it will be gum-chewing, or loud talking, or eating messy chees-fries.

Better to just make smoking illegal. At least you would have to get a majority vote for that, rather than some arbitrary decision by lawmakers responding to the "squeakier wheels"... aka the vocal non-smoking public.

Again... I am a non-smoker, do not approve of smoking, prefer when people don;t smoke, and do not allow it in my car. But in public places...so long as it is a legal activity, I strongly disagree with the bans being imposed on smokers.

My 2 cents.

I still can't believe responses like this. While "loud talking" might annoy you it has absolutely nothing in common with second hand smoke and neither does food, chewing gum or anything else. It cracks me up that people like you agree that you don't like smoke, don't let people smoke around you and don't smoke yourselves yet you don't like the bans because you disagree with how they were put in place. And just an FYI for you... in Ohio the VOTERS passed the law. Last time I checked it takes the majority to pass a new law. I'm assuming most of the other states that have no smoking bans went about it the same way. Not sure why you think the lawmakers "imposed" the bans on the poor 30% of the population that chooses to die from lung cancer.

Before you get all huffy-puffy about rules against so called "loud talking," if something is distracting, I wouldn't be surprised if it were banned. Case in point: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,332648,00.html

I remember bowling a college tournament when fans from one of the schools brought those loud blow-up clappers and used them everytime one of their bowlers got a spare or strike. It became a hot topic on the college bowling forums and caused some heated discussions with fans, bowlers and parents. So how does this relate to smoking? Whether smoking is allowed or not allowed, I think it becomes a case of common courtesy. If the center allows smoking, be considerate to those that don't and if they don't, be considerate of those who wish to go outside and smoke.
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Okay first of all I'm not getting all "huffy puffy". Secondly I wasn't the one that mentioned loud talking I was simply saying comparing it to smoking is just plain retarded. Lastly and most importantly, how do you suppose "loud talking" be banned? Cut out bowlers vocal cords as they walk into the alley? Not to mention that article you linked isn't even from the US and is from a private club, which allows them to make any rules they want unfortunately. I understand some people just like to take a side for the sake of arguement but atleast take a side that makes sense or the arguement isn't going to get very far.

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jasoncajda · « **Reply #75 on:** February 27, 2008, 04:44:24 PM »

Well I have to agree on this one. It is all about taking away OUR rights. If you don't think so you are kidding yourself. I don't smoke but do enjoy a cigar now and then. And I will say you or me have more chance of getting something sitting behind a bus or truck in rush hour traffic then breathing smoke from a cigar or cigarette. This is how the govt gets us to give away our rights buy us telling them to take them away. And the next thing will be people who are over weight. They will start with how people who are over weight are costing the system x amount of dollars each year and we (the people) need to do something about it. So we will say your right I'm tired of paying high insurance because of these people lets make them lose weight. That's how it started with smoking were paying high premium's because of the smokers, has anybody' insurance really gone down since less people are smoking?

It's a shame that every year more and more rights are taken away and no one cares.

That's my rant I'm done.
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