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SVstar34

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« on: October 07, 2013, 07:13:14 PM »
Since I started bowling leagues again this year(1st time since 2009) I've been having a little problem during the 2nd/3rd games and can't seem to string anything together.

I normally take with me to league my 900G Bounty @ 2000 abralon, probably closer to 4000 now with the games I've put on it since the surface change, Brunswick Twisted Fury (pearl) @ 1000+polish, and my Hammer Blue Vibe @ 4000+polish. Also have a Crossroad that i'll usually take with me @ 4000 abralon.

I'll start with my Bounty and chase inside, and then I'll get to a point where the Bounty just doesn't have enough recovery to make it back after the breakdown of oil. I'll ball down to the Twisted Fury which has always allowed me to play closer to the friction, but on the conditions it doesn't get enough kick on the back.(leaving flat 10s quite a bit, as for some reason oil starts to carrydown during the middle of the 2nd game.) The Crossroad I have gives me an identical reaction to the Twisted Fury, as at the time when I had the Crossroad drilled, I did not like the TF reaction.

After all this text, if you're still reading...(hopefully) Would it be beneficial for me to add a light coat of polish to my Bounty? or Should I invest in a stronger pearl ball? (i.e Byte, Nano Pearl, Reax Pearl...etc)

Layouts:

Bounty: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4h4iae&s=5#.UlNLmhAnFs8
TF: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2d1juo5&s=5#.UlNRvhAnFs8
Crossroad: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dph27t&s=5#.UlNR0xAnFs8

Thanks


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SVstar34

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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2013, 10:15:57 PM »
I don't want to discredit you for trying to provide something useful, but the Belmonte example only works for a small, select group of people. He can make anything hook. Also, the Critical Theory is a Pearl cover

I'm using a fairly strong ball in the Bounty, however, it's a dull solid and works best with tighter angles to a little swing. There isn't a high volume of oil, pattern seems to be around 38-39' and the head oil goes pretty fast on the house shot.
I've only been able to use my oil ball once, I showed up to practice and they told me a sport pattern was out on a couple pairs, which played like Shark.

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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2013, 08:05:10 AM »
True, not everyone is Belmo.  But based on this first paragraph:

On Wednesday mens league I have trouble carrying the 10 as I move farther inside with my bounty, however if I ball down both my Crossroad and TF just don't have quite enough reaction downlane.

You seem to need a stronger reacting ball than the Crossroad and the TF.  I understand the purpose of the BH.  But once you move in, chasing the oil, you need a strong ball to make the corner.  And based on your experience, something stronger than the CR and the TF.  Simple as that.  That was the reason for my comment.

On Sundays, 4 person mixed I've been experiencing carrydown middle/end of game 2 in the track area to where I'm more pointing the ball towards the pocket and going flat 10 or just come up short of pocket. I even took my heavy oil ball a Rogue Cell @ 1000 for 1 of the weeks but oil is gone from the heads.

I used to have something like this happen to me when we had a 12 mph cranker swing plastic from the inside out to the track and back.  The exit area of the track developed carry down and carry suffered.  What was successful for us was to force the reaction outside of the track and a bit earlier.  I don't know what that would mean for you.  For us we went with some control drilling balls and even threw strong pearls to force the reaction in the dry outside the track.

Good luck!!

SVstar34

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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2013, 11:20:55 PM »
Well maybe I figured something out. Went to bowl tonight and thought I'd just start with my Crossroad, ended up going 247-300-215. I was able to just move left as the lanes changed. Left lane broke down faster, so I was further left and had to keep my ball speed above 17 and on the right lane I didnt have to move much and kept my ball speed around 16.7.

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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 01:07:06 PM »
I think your problem may be more about matching up on broken down house patterns with your style than it is about equipment.  The problem with house shots is that the heads break down quickly everywhere to the right of 4th arrow, but the mids still have heavy oil in the middle.  This is not a problem for super high rev guys who can go around the oil while maintaining continuation.  Also not a problem for real straight fluffers who can get the ball through the heads without moving in too much.    Having said that, there are some options.  I think strong asymmetric pearls can be laid out to help your inside carry.  I particularly like the Lucid because it generates a big change of direction late while still being a rolly rather than skid snap look. 

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2013, 01:37:01 PM »
I find that the single most important thing on a house shot is to reduce lane transition as much as possible, because some house shots can turn into nightmares pretty quickly.  My average is higher than several people in this area that are physically a lot better than I am, but it's just because I can get through entire sets with the same ball only moving a couple boards max because I manage the shot well. 
What would you be if you were attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis?

SVstar34

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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2013, 01:58:30 PM »
I find that the single most important thing on a house shot is to reduce lane transition as much as possible, because some house shots can turn into nightmares pretty quickly.  My average is higher than several people in this area that are physically a lot better than I am, but it's just because I can get through entire sets with the same ball only moving a couple boards max because I manage the shot well. 

That was exactly what I decided to do last night and it helped in a big way. Hopefully the same thing will work on Sunday
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2013, 02:03:06 PM »
I find that the single most important thing on a house shot is to reduce lane transition as much as possible, because some house shots can turn into nightmares pretty quickly.

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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2013, 02:33:19 PM »
I think I'll still look for a deal on a stronger assym pearl/hybrid to replace my Bounty, even though I love throwing that ball. I have the feeling that a different ball taking its place will be more versatile.

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2013, 02:58:05 PM »
I would look really hard at the Byte, every single video I've seen of it makes it look ridiculously good, especially this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSMPaWcmZfs

I think I'll still look for a deal on a stronger assym pearl/hybrid to replace my Bounty, even though I love throwing that ball. I have the feeling that a different ball taking its place will be more versatile.
What would you be if you were attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis?

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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2013, 03:35:03 PM »
I would love a Byte, saw one on the shelf in the pro shop yesterday. I'm a college student so I'm gonna try to find a deal on a ball that isn't brand new. I'd love something along the lines of a Critical Theory, Purple Taboo...etc

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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2013, 04:09:26 PM »
Byte looks awesome. Still think a Protocol would be boss in that situation. Might be able to find a Nuts Pearl for cheap on eBay. That ball is able to get around the corner from anywhere.

SVstar34

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2013, 04:39:48 PM »
I'd be all for a Nuts Pearl. I'd be willing to throw any strong pearl from the last few years, I don't need something brand new. NV series (Total/Complete), UpRising, Black Widow (Pearl or Venom), Track 7 series "A".

Now I want a ball xD
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