BallReviews
General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: imjouster on December 14, 2014, 06:10:55 AM
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Sorry for the negative post, but I've taken a bit of a break from ballreviews. I used to login and read posts on here for at least an hour a day every day. But that was a few years ago. Now when I come back and look at this site, there just doesn't seem to be any traffic... I mean in the past there would be at least a page and a half of new posts in the miscellaneous forum. Now there's MAYBE 8-10 new posts in the last 24 hours... Just wondering where everyone went. This forum used to be one of the best bowling forums on the web, and although I still recognize a few of the old names here, most of them are gone.
If this has been discussed at length in the past then sorry once again, but as I said, I haven't really been around much the last... oh 5 years haha.
Jeremy
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Seems like many have vacated for more modern forms of social media, such as Facebook groups and Twitter.
At least those who haven't died or just given up.
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True, the site doesn't have the traffic it used to, but there has never been a lot of action on the week end. Also I think as the game has become more equipment driven, I think the miscellaneous forum has taken a hit as a lot of people post more questions in the individual ball manufacturers forum. Plus don't forget that the number of bowlers has been seriously declining over the years. That also means less people interested in talking about it on the internet.
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Yeah, I have noticed a bunch of facebook bowling groups popping up all over the place, heck I'm in a few of them. And yeah, bowling has definitely been on the decline over the last... well 20 years hah. I didn't know if this forum had upset a bunch of people driving them off, or if it was just your typical downfall that is kind of expected over time. Just miss some of the old forum days.
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It's a mix of everything.... From trolls to lost of interest to other sites. I'm in the NorCal area and I know many that I still see in tournaments and a few leagues, just stopped post completely or just lurk the site.
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I hope it's not dead. I prefer this site to the myriad of Facebook sites. I find those
sites to be less-structured, so I seldom venture in that direction.
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I hope not, I'm new here, less than a month as a member of the forum, but I truly enjoy reading all the questions people may have, I myslef had some in the past and I always received good and accurate answers. Long live to ball reviews! :D
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imjouster -- Check your PM's. -- JohnP
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I hope not, I'm new here, less than a month as a member of the forum, but I truly enjoy reading all the questions people may have, I myslef had some in the past and I always received good and accurate answers. Long live to ball reviews! :D
I also disagree that Ball Reviews is "dead." I do not know what this forum was like in the "good old days," but in my short time here, I have enjoyed reading the excellent posts of so many players. I have purchased a number of products (and have not been disappointed) based solely on the recommendations of the posters on Ball Reviews. This is a good place.
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I hope not, I'm new here, less than a month as a member of the forum, but I truly enjoy reading all the questions people may have, I myslef had some in the past and I always received good and accurate answers. Long live to ball reviews! :D
I also disagree that Ball Reviews is "dead." I do not know what this forum was like in the "good old days," but in my short time here, I have enjoyed reading the excellent posts of so many players. I have purchased a number of products (and have not been disappointed) based solely on the recommendations of the posters on Ball Reviews. This is a good place.
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It's not dead, it's just the Latest Forum Posts isn't flooded with all the ball for sale posts like it use to be.
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I don't think its dead, but much, much less responses than before. Heck, you can see a topic get 500 views, but only 2 people actually respond. I asked a question about one of the most popular balls that was recently released, and got several hundred views. Guess how many responses I got. Zero, nada, zilch...so I deleted the post. I can't believe that no one would respond to a simple question. But if you look, that's how many of the posts are, all look, no response. No interaction. That will lead to a slow death.
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I don't think its dead, but much, much less responses than before. Heck, you can see a topic get 500 views, but only 2 people actually respond. I asked a question about one of the most popular balls that was recently released, and got several hundred views. Guess how many responses I got. Zero, nada, zilch...so I deleted the post. I can't believe that no one would respond to a simple question. But if you look, that's how many of the posts are, all look, no response. No interaction. That will lead to a slow death.
Your impatience is the kind of thing that leads to a site going dead. I suspect there are less people reading BR.com on a regular basis for many VALID reasons, not just problems with the site. Why delete a message, unless the thread has been hijacked? It mightbe just a matter of time before someone has a response or has decided to take the time and the risk to make a comment that might help you. (Risk? yes. with the number of smart asses and the number of know-it-alls we now have, any reply these days can be the target of ridicule.) Plus you might view the ball as popular or it might be popular in your area, but it MIGHT not be popular elsewhere or with the people here.
Patience is often rewarded.
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I check the site every day, and while I don't think it's dead, there isn't much of interest going on any more. A lot of topics are the same stuff over and over again, there aren't many interesting topics of discussion, so that's why most people will look but won't post. A lot of the time, opinions or answers turn into a pissing contest between the know-it-all's, and nobody really wants to answer questions about what ball someone should get because they're all the same and there's really no right answer. Every time I log on I'm disappointed most of the time because there's nothing interesting to talk about.
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Charlest, that was the one and only time I deletd my own post. Because no one responded after several hundred views, and being on for over a week and zero responses, I decided to just remove it.
My impatience is the kind of thing that leads to the site going dead? I been here for years, AND I still post, both topics and responses. I'm not be the most knowledgable person on here, and I will never claim to be, but if I can add to something, I will. If I have a question, I ask. But I deleted my own post ONCE because no one responded, and and now I'm impatient?
My question was about my not so popular CRUX.
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I check the site every day, and while I don't think it's dead, there isn't much of interest going on any more. A lot of topics are the same stuff over and over again, there aren't many interesting topics of discussion, so that's why most people will look but won't post. A lot of the time, opinions or answers turn into a pissing contest between the know-it-all's, and nobody really wants to answer questions about what ball someone should get because they're all the same and there's really no right answer. Every time I log on I'm disappointed most of the time because there's nothing interesting to talk about.
That's me as well. I'm always looking, and never was much of an active poster to begin with.
There is still a bunch of info shared that can help us all, so I'll always keep reading.
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No Ballreviews is still alive and well. The Forum where we could argue, discuss, and cuss various things and people is dead. Seems as if the only thing worth discussing these days is how many colors, what weight, how many are owned is regarded as intelligent discussion. A lot of us had a lot of fun, sometimes learned something, or taught something when the forum was active. The endless discussion of balls is pretty boring. Probably a lot of the "old devils' advocate" type guys are still around but don't ever see anything worth devoting any time to.
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In my case, I haven't even bowled a fun league in the last 4 years, let alone anything competitive that would require me to keep up with current trends. I still look in here from time to time, but rarely post anything since I'm not in tune with current bowling trends.
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So kinda sounds like a little of both. Is the forum dead? Meh not really. But it definitely isn't as active as it was a few years ago. been doing more looking the last few days and it definitely isn't as busy as it used to be, but we do at least have some posts popping up from time to time.
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Charlest, that was the one and only time I deletd my own post. Because no one responded after several hundred views, and being on for over a week and zero responses, I decided to just remove it.
Not everybody is up on current equipment. Without seeing the post in question, it may well have been that may people were hoping that maybe there was something in the post that could have benefited them in some manner.
As to the board itself...reasons are many, but the reality is that many have simply walked away from bowling. I am one of them. I post on occasion in the misc-nonbowling section, but there isn't much I could add to discussions on the current state of the game. Couldn't tell you the last time I even bothered to watch a telecast (do they still broadcast it on television at all?) and I don't know that I have been in a center more than twice in the past five years (both for office parties).
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Charlest, that was the one and only time I deletd my own post. Because no one responded after several hundred views, and being on for over a week and zero responses, I decided to just remove it.
Michelle, it doesn't matter. I deleted my post once, I post semi-regularly, I'm on here every day, and I'm a patient person. My question was about surface change on the CRUX. No one responded, I deleted it. That's it. It was a question that I had, and was seeking input if anyone had any. It's not like I made sarcastic remarks or anything like that because no one responded, I just deleted my own post due to lack of interest, plus I gave the ball to my son and he loves it. End of story.
Not everybody is up on current equipment. Without seeing the post in question, it may well have been that may people were hoping that maybe there was something in the post that could have benefited them in some manner.
As to the board itself...reasons are many, but the reality is that many have simply walked away from bowling. I am one of them. I post on occasion in the misc-nonbowling section, but there isn't much I could add to discussions on the current state of the game. Couldn't tell you the last time I even bothered to watch a telecast (do they still broadcast it on television at all?) and I don't know that I have been in a center more than twice in the past five years (both for office parties).
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Charlest, that was the one and only time I deletd my own post. Because no one responded after several hundred views, and being on for over a week and zero responses, I decided to just remove it.
My impatience is the kind of thing that leads to the site going dead? I been here for years, AND I still post, both topics and responses. I'm not be the most knowledgable person on here, and I will never claim to be, but if I can add to something, I will. If I have a question, I ask. But I deleted my own post ONCE because no one responded, and and now I'm impatient?
My question was about my not so popular CRUX.
Sorry, but yes, your impatience is but another sign of people wanting immediate gratification a sign of the times. Every hear of the expression, "everything comes to he who waits"???
If you truly wanted an answer and not just a gratification, you would have left it there. You say you're not impatient; yet, you deleted the post because you didn't get an answer within an xxx time frame. If you truly wanted an answer, you would have left it there. I'm 99% positive more than one other person would have been interested in the replies,. Children do that spite thing: "I don't like your rules: I'm taking my ball and going home"; adults do have patience.
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So, because I deleted my own post , I'm now referenced as an impatient child and wanted instant gratification? Really? I deleted it, not because I wanted "just a gratification" and I didn't get that so I "took my ball and went home", again, like a child. I gave the ball to my son because it wasn't working for me and he loves the ball the way it is, so I didn't need any answer. The question was now irrelevant. Was that really so wrong, deleting my own question that I posted and was now irrelevant for me? It just so happens that the post was up for a couple of weeks, had over 300 views (something like that) and no responses. I wasn't complaining about it, it was just in reference to the OP's question, and my opinion.
But yeah, love your references to being a child and the finger pointing blame game, plus I'm almost at retirement age soon. (But I believe that your reference was to maturity level)
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That's one bad thing about writing or now texting,things can get misconstrued. I believe Charlest has missed the gentlemans point. Talking in person is so much better
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I don't believe this is being misconstrued at all. While Charlest may have been a bit harsh in his reply, his premise is sound. Artimust, you posted a topic about a brand new ball. How many people do you really think would have made major surface changes to ball just released? And if they did, do you believe they would have had time to fully understand if those changes worked by the time you deleted your post? You were impatient, sorry to say. You weren't thinking about the fact that people may not have even tried changing surfaces yet on a new ball. The 500 views should have told you that people were interested in the topic, but maybe they haven't had the chance to do it yet and wanted to see others take on it. Now no one will get to know the answer. And go back and reread your first response in this thread. You don't mention anything about the question being irrelevant now, only that you didn't get a response in the time frame you wanted it, so the site is dead and you deleted it. Only after getting called out on it, do you bring up the point about the question being moot.
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I guess BR is not going anywhere...
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Wait a minute, why is this an issue here. Like I said, the question was irrelevant to me...to me. I asked a question, I didn't need or desired an answer. Did it matter if it was one day, 5, 100? I didn't need an answer. It had noting to do with patience, I just didn't need or desire an answer. Geez, I guess I made a grave mistake by deleting my own post that i didn't need an answer to. If someone else might have the same question, post the damn question. Is that so difficult? I do it, or used to anyway.
On edit**' Jorge, you're right, I went back to my first post and reread it and it does sound like I was impatient, but that wasn't the whole picture. I colored in the picture. But no matter what the situation was, I'll be wrong, MY BAD.
I posted only as input as to one POSSIBLE reason that "ballreviews is dead", and that it was less posting by people? I never said ballreviews was dead, I'm on here every single day, I post responses and topics.
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Bust out he popcorn....nah, put em away, I'm done.
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Kinda sad, most things go sour
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Artimust,
Do what you feel you must. It's not about who's right and who's wrong. It's about what was posted. As I said, Charlest was harsh in his response, but that is how he feels. It isn't right or wrong, it just is. Just as your opinion isn't right or wrong, it just is. I was just adding what I saw, as a 3rd party to this debate, and adding a perspective you may not have thought of. I have jumped the gun on things here before, not thinking that the ball is just released or maybe even not released yet, it happens.
Plus, when you reason for deleting a post, is something totally different then the topic you are posting about, one would think it appropriate to spell that out. You didn't, which added fuel to the fire. I have no issue with you are anyone clarifying a post...some things don't always come across as well in the written word as they do in our heads or when spoken. But you went straight to being defensive about it, instead of just acknowledging you made a mistake in your original reply. As you said, you didn't give the whole picture, so how can you be upset at others who read it the way even you did?
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Things go sour because we are human. People don't like to admit mistakes. And when a mistake is pointed out, the response is to get defensive and attack the messenger. We have all of that happening here, I think. Sometimes we need to take a step back and realize that we, me, may have been wrong and just because someone points it out, they aren't attacking me personally.
Kinda sad, most things go sour
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I agree.A little humility serves us all well !
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People look at posts and don't want to deal with the online BS that some people provide. There are some members on here that when they post I assume they are trolling due to things I've seen in the past. I honestly just skip past their comments and continue reading and trying to learn something new.