Author Topic: So the guy I bowled against tonight shot 921....USBC Update (Read 12881 times)

302efi · « **on:** October 15, 2008, 01:36:40 PM »

...with handicap

How in the hell am I suppose to beat that ?

***10/20/08 Update***
I just received this response from USBC about handicap scores going over 300/900 handicap:

" Leagues have the ability to put a cap on handicap scores that would prevent any scores above 300 or 900 from being recorded.

Two years ago at the National convention, delegates voted against a proposal that would do the same thing in tournaments.

In short, leagues would be able to put in place such a rule at the leagues organizational meeting, however, a tournament director may not put such a rule in place "
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

Edited on 10/20/2008 2:15 PM

302efi · « **Reply #106 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:05:50 AM »

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I'm sorry, if I shoot 300 and you shoot 151, I don't care how many pins over average that is...my accomplishment was better.

Right on !

I mean its good the guy bowled a 240 with a 160 avg, but I just shot a 300 and you beat me score wise ?

This is the kinda thing that critics feed on when they down bowling and taking it serious !
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

Edited on 10/18/2008 1:06 AM

rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #107 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:20:14 AM »

As much as I hate to say it, I see why people sandbag. I never will. I HATE IT, but I understand why. It's a business decision.

That's why I try to only bowl scratch.

Here's another one: Rhino Page bowling here in Bako on house shot shoots 300, loses a sidepot to 11 pins handicap and 290.
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Rev Rate: 400-450 Speed: 16-17 mph
Current Average: 236

stealth · « **Reply #108 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:20:52 AM »

DONK why are you getting in handicap brackets you are just asking for trouble.

rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #109 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:27:18 AM »

Basically, unless it's to support the juniors locally or a memorial tournament or something, I don't bowl anything but scratch. I avoid h/c at all costs.

It's a waste of money for me. There are bowlers here in town that can shoot 650-700 on command it seems like, and yet they average 140. I've never met a 140 avg. bowler with the ability to shoot 700 4 or 5 times a season (always bowling against my team, as well*)

*my team is high average team.
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Rev Rate: 400-450 Speed: 16-17 mph
Current Average: 236

rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #110 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:30:29 AM »

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It was an ABT, everything is handicapped.
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I am a super rev-o-tronic pinky tucking machine.

What house was the ABT in?

And what house do you bowl out of? If you bowl ABT, you're obviously from Cali.
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Rev Rate: 400-450 Speed: 16-17 mph
Current Average: 236

Urameshii6 · « **Reply #111 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:32:27 AM »

Now it sounds like the not-so-good bowlers are taking advantage of the cap ratio. Call me conservative, but I think 80% of 200 is plenty. 90% of 220 just sounds like too many sticks are being given (I'm not sure, haven't been able to fully understand the ratios).

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Would it help at all to change the handicap ratio? 90% of 220 sounds kinda odd (I've never been in a league that had such a cap ratio).

Thats been brought up be fore, but gets voted down before the motion even gets finished being read ..lol

90% of 220 is pretty much standard around here

Whats also sad is there is no scratch leagues or even low handicap Mens leagues around here.

I enjoy bowling, so I'm glad theres even leagues around here to bowl that are competitive and have nice cash payouts. What really put a damper on this situation, was the guys attitude toward the scores he bowled. Kinda making half-a** jokes about being over 300..Like:

~ "Well you can't beat that even if you shot a 300"
~ "Wow, I was way over 300 on that first game!"
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

Edited on 10/18/2008 0:54 AM

Edited on 10/18/2008 0:55 AM

rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #112 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:36:48 AM »

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It was at Sequoia Lanes...

I live near Linbrook and bowl at Carter, Gonna start a PBA league at Yorba Linda in a few weeks. I dont really have a house anymore, I just bowl tournaments now.

You from Cali?
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I am a super rev-o-tronic pinky tucking machine.

Yep yep.

I've bowled at Carter a few times.

Never bowled in Yorba, but I know a couple people who come out of that house.

Also don't think I've ever bowled at Sequoia, but I've heard of it.
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Rev Rate: 400-450 Speed: 16-17 mph
Current Average: 236

rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #113 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:42:55 AM »

Bakersfield.

Dump of a town, terrible bowling alleys. I hate it.

I travel to LA (2 hours on average) or even further almost EVERY weekend.

Palos on Sunday.
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Rev Rate: 400-450 Speed: 16-17 mph
Current Average: 236

rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #114 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:50:02 AM »

I know Carlie. Lefty beast.

I'm still a junior, and it's not league. JATs (Junior Amateur Tour) are tournaments every 2 weeks, and on the off weeks I try to find other little tournaments to bowl.
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Rev Rate: 400-450 Speed: 16-17 mph
Current Average: 236

302efi · « **Reply #115 on:** October 18, 2008, 02:12:50 AM »

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Call me conservative, but I think 80% of 200 is plenty.

Man I wish !

I'm on this leagues and team with the center manager and we have went over this a bunch of times.

The reason for the high cap is to attract more people in the league(s). The more cap, the more bowlers, and in turn more money for the center.

Pretty sad that bowling has fell to this level, but I can live with the cap for the most part, I'm just hoping I can do something about cap going over 300 & 900

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quote:
I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

302efi · « **Reply #116 on:** October 18, 2008, 02:15:13 AM »

Also, the more I think about, I would be embarressed to say to someone that I shot a 302 or 320 ect...LOL
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quote:
I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

Urameshii6 · « **Reply #117 on:** October 18, 2008, 02:33:22 AM »

You and other good bowlers of your area were sucked into someone's money-making scheme, and I'd have to say if that's the reason for the high cap, then I wouldn't expect anything favorable for the 300/900 cap-off, especially if the people shooting handicap-induced scores are running around talking about, "Man I can't believe I shot 920", or "amazing that you couldn't even with a perfect game". They'll say that, but they really love being able to get away with it, and if it keep people there and possibly bring in more, then you might be done on this argument. Best of luck to ya!!!

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Call me conservative, but I think 80% of 200 is plenty.

Man I wish !

I'm on this leagues and team with the center manager and we have went over this a bunch of times.

The reason for the high cap is to attract more people in the league(s). The more cap, the more bowlers, and in turn more money for the center.

Pretty sad that bowling has fell to this level, but I can live with the cap for the most part, I'm just hoping I can do something about cap going over 300 & 900
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quote:
I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

icefiction · « **Reply #118 on:** October 18, 2008, 02:41:35 AM »

i would agree, it would seem impossible and unfair to allow one person the ability to score beyond perfect and limit anothers ability to 300, one could look at it froma legal stand point, it is a clear cut case of discrimination. Anyone want to take it to court lol. ps. I have had someone on my team be a victim of shooting 300 scratch and losin to a handicap 320 game.
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #119 on:** October 18, 2008, 07:09:30 AM »

AHHHHHHH! Down to the root of the problem.....lots of money at stake....why didn't you say so!

Inevitably there will always a new bowler...who gets a new ball, a new drilling that fits his hand, a lesson on where to stand and he will shoot lights out....and maybe continue for the rest of the season!

Again your team being in second had nothing to do with this guys handicap in your particular match him. He could have shot his same score with a perfectly FAIR(adjusted to his new level immediately) and he would have WIPED you out that night in a handicap league and frankly he deserved to! It was after all....his career night! So far!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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rockerbowler18 · « **Reply #120 on:** October 18, 2008, 09:08:34 AM »

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Call me conservative, but I think 80% of 200 is plenty.

Man I wish !

I'm on this leagues and team with the center manager and we have went over this a bunch of times.

The reason for the high cap is to attract more people in the league(s). The more cap, the more bowlers, and in turn more money for the center.

Pretty sad that bowling has fell to this level, but I can live with the cap for the most part, I'm just hoping I can do something about cap going over 300 & 900
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quote:
I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

I think the best chance you'll have is to lose a big tournament by actually shooting a high 800 series, so it gets USBC nat'l's attention.
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Rev Rate: 400-450 Speed: 16-17 mph
Current Average: 236

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