Post by: Gene J Kanak on June 03, 2003, 12:08:05 AM
I have noticed a pattern emerging over the past 10 years or so, and it is only getting worse. It seems that a very large percentage of the bowling world is more interested in how many boards the bowling ball is covering, rather than how many pins it is knocking down. I know it's shocking, but it's true.
I have a friend who falls into this category. He owns four bowling balls, all very aggressive, and states that he really needs to find a ball that will hook more and allow him to open up the lane. Keep in mind, two of his primary balls are the Granite Gargoyle and the X-Factor Deuce! His style is raw; he cocks his wrist greatly and digs into the ball as hard as he can at the foul line, sometimes nearly falling over from the effort. He carries an average around 180, but misses an average of at least two spares per game. But he in not the only one.
In my travels to tournaments and during league nights alike, I often see several people using the latest hook monster chucking the ball wide and grinning from ear to ear as it comes roaring back. Of course, the ball only finds the pocket 1 out of 7 times, usually leaving a 7-10 in the process due to the extreme angle that the bowler is playing. Or if it's not the 7-10, it's just the 10, which might just as well be a split because the bowler has no concept and, it appears, no interest in picking it up anyhow.
The most-laughable part of this equation is the fact that some people are actually impressed with this way of bowling. I love it when someone nudges me and tells me to 'watch so and so throw the ball, they're really good'. So, I watch so and so do exactly what I've described above, and then prepare for the shocked and awed look on the person's face when I tell them that I'm not very impressed.
Now that I'm off of my soapbox, I'll get to the point. I'm not saying that hooking the lane is a bad thing. I have a friend who turns the ball so damn hard that I'm waiting for his hand to catch fire from all of the friction. And yes, it does look extremely impressive when he hits the pocket with such authority that it carries strikes on the lanes on either side of him as well as his own. But what impresses me more about this friend is not his ability to hook the ball, but his ability to make his spares when he leaves them.
I realize that many of you know this, but to those who don't, hooking the ball is not the name of the game ladies and gentlemen. The name of the game is finding the best way to score on given conditions. Sometimes that means standing left, throwing right, gripping and ripping and using every board from coast to coast to get the job done. However, there are other times when playing hard and straight dead at the pocket is the way to go.
In my scratch-match play league this year I was bowling with 15 people whom I had never bowled with before. Most of them hooked the ball quite a bit more than I did, but with good control. Still, they seemed to be shocked and amazed when I would point the ball straight up second arrow at arround 18 mph and rip the rack to beat them. It was almost as if they felt that my shots were of lesser quality, just because they were straighter. Forget about the fact that I hit my mark dead on the money each and every shot.
It just cracks me up that some people think that it is cooler to hook the ball and shoot decent, than it is to play straight and score. It's the same thing that was brought up in a post a while back about whether you'd rather string strikes or be a good spare shooter. Sure, we'd all like to string strikes, but if you don't make your spares in the instances where you fail to strike, you're done. End of story.
When did playing straighter become 'uncool'? I don't no the answer to that, but what I do know is that one of the premier players on the PBA Tour is also one of the straighter players. Sure, Rudy Revs and Robert Smith are fun to watch, but Walter Ray and his rocket to the pocket seem to be cashing a lot of checks these days.
I guess all I'm saying is learn how to hook the ball and play straight, learn how to make your spares, then try to be smart enough to know when to use what you've learned.
Gene J. Kanak
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Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Post by: O on June 03, 2003, 03:18:48 PM
Why don't you tell everyone how you really feel? lol
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Dominic A. Pelc
Post by: Bjaardker on June 03, 2003, 03:51:10 PM
The real travesty is all of the juniors I see playing nothumb in order to get maximum crank on the ball.
I'm not condemming nothumbers, I know a couple really decent 2 finger bowlers. However, the great majority of them are not doing themselves any favors by bowling that way.
The best way to cure people of the "Hook = God" syndrome? Beat them.
I take great pride in slaughtering people on a down & in with my Red pearl hammer.
Post by: Gene J Kanak on June 03, 2003, 04:20:22 PM
What are you complaining about, I was talking about you when I said that it impressed me that you know how to control your ball and that you make your spares. Except maybe for 10-pins in the Chicagoland Open. But then again, who am I to talk? I missed my mark on every shot for three games in a row when we bowled together. lol.
leftside,
If you were talking to what I had to say, I was not trying to claim that this was only a problem with juniors. I see the same thing happen with adults all of the time in league and tournaments.
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Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Post by: T-GOD on June 03, 2003, 04:24:17 PM
Post by: cgilyeat on June 03, 2003, 04:29:13 PM
Post by: charlest on June 03, 2003, 05:04:20 PM
If I may offer my 2 cents:
I think the people you are complaining about are, in my mind, playing the "game" of bowling. I think we here at ballreviews in general are concerned with the "sport" of bowling. I believe this to be, in essence, the subject matter here. I do agree wholeheartedly with your premise and your conclusion.
I have always thrown a larger than averagehook, not because I wanted to, but solely because when I threw a smaller one, all carry power went out the window. Over the past 2 years, I have finally (I think) learned enough about bowling and ball to be able to reduce my hook and maintain a semblance of hitting and carrying power. It's been a long tough road. So, I'd say don't condemn anyone that you see throwing a big hook, without knowing their game. I am still not where I want to be but I am making progress.
Most bowlers are not educated in the finer points of bowling the way we can be here on the internet by sharing all we can with others.
Post by: HamPster on June 03, 2003, 05:06:52 PM
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I know Kung Fu!
I am the one, the one that will bring balance. All the pins shall be destroyed!
Post by: Gene J Kanak on June 03, 2003, 05:13:04 PM
I did not mean to sound as if I meant to condemn people who throw a big hook. As I said, I know some people who turn the ball a great deal and do so very effectively. I'm not stating that all bowlers who throw big hooks fall into the category that I described. I'm strictly talking about people who ONLY want to hook the ball, and do so quite ineffectively just for the sake of doing so. If you throw the ball coast to coast because that gives you the best chance of scoring, that's great. I don't always play hard and straight either. When the lanes require it, I will stand left and chuck right just like everyone else. The people that I was referring to are the ones that will do that at all times just because they think it looks impressive, rather than adjusting to what the lanes are giving.
T-God,
While I agree that oil is not always plentiful, I think we both know that there is usually enough out there to find some kind of shot. Again, I'm not referring to these situations. If that's what the lanes are giving, go for it. I'm talking about the people who stick with that shot for the sake of covering boards only.
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Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Post by: Steven on June 03, 2003, 05:15:52 PM
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Might be walking on thin ice, but I find that there are far more black bowlers that fall into this trap.
Yes, you not only walked on thin ice, but you just fell through it. The type of generalization you just made is neither accurate nor productive to spread. "Dumb Bowler" disease is prevalent across all demographics. Just look at 90% of the posts in this forum!
Anyway, learn from this and move on.
Post by: HamPster on June 03, 2003, 05:20:04 PM
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I know Kung Fu!
I am the one, the one that will bring balance. All the pins shall be destroyed!
Post by: charlest on June 03, 2003, 05:53:40 PM
I wasn't trying to imply that you were condemning all big hookers. I got foot- in-mouth disease, not quite as bad as Hamster. Our natural tendency is to do such. It took me 4 years to convince a teammate who did exactly what you were saying - cover as many boards as possible - to NOT do that. When he saw me outscoring him by a 8-10 pins per game, he wised up, but never admitted to being convinced by me.
Like I said, they are playing a game; we who do what we must, are playing the sport. BIG DIFFERENCE!
Post by: MI 2 AZ on June 03, 2003, 05:56:51 PM
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I'm just gonna shut up before I dig the hole deeper . . .
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I know Kung Fuuuuuuuuuuu....ouch!
Note: last part of quote modified.
Post by: HamPster on June 03, 2003, 06:17:48 PM
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I know Kung Fu!
I am the one, the one that will bring balance. All the pins shall be destroyed!
Post by: charlest on June 03, 2003, 07:05:00 PM
Post by: Bjaardker on June 03, 2003, 08:01:36 PM
I wasn't trying to single out the juniors. I was merely making an observation that I see more 2 finger crankers in the "future bowlers" of america than ever before.
Maybe it's because they see us & the pros with the big booming hooks & are trying to emulate but only have plastic house balls to work with. So they 2 finger crank to compensate.
Maybe we should change house balls from plastic to resin?
I mean it took a while, but now you will almost never find a wooden driver in the bucket at the driving range, why should we have plastic house balls?
Post by: AdrianS on June 03, 2003, 10:08:20 PM
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Post by: Airplay on June 03, 2003, 10:36:17 PM
And one more thing, we aren't all blessed with super athletic genes. Some of us actually work hard to be good at a certain sport, or whatever it is we put our minds to. Brains will always beat brawn.
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Bowl to win Baby
Post by: arakasi on June 04, 2003, 02:53:43 AM
at their spares Instead of going straighter at
their spares they again put the most amount on
the ball as much as they can. The 10 pin is
alway's the main culprit. Their ball alway's
hook's away from it or they slam it into the
gutter about halfway down the lane. Hooking the
ball 15+ board's to make a spare seem's like
a waste of effort to me.
Edited on 6/4/2003 3:08 AM
Post by: 10 In The Pit on June 04, 2003, 04:17:21 AM
Yes, it aggrivates me too watching these people calling themselves bowling. What good is hooking the ball across 39 boards if you can't hit anything on the other end of the lane? I guess it must be good because it looks cool, but I can't see the waste of lineage simply trying to impress your buddies by how many boards you can hook the ball.....the name of the game is knocking down pins, and not hooking across 39 boards. Yes, I like to throw the hook ball myself, but I like it to be under control when it gets to the other end of the lane.
I guess that it might be easier to accomplish these Olympic feats of hooking the ball if you have a bumper shot. I don't have a bumper shot, and I've watched numerous of these cranker wannabes throw the ball right into the ditch, time after time. You'd think that after a while, these cranker wannabes would catch on and try to regain control....however, that makes too much sense.
Post by: 9andaWiggle on June 04, 2003, 01:20:09 PM
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Why, WHY won't the last one just fall?? It's WIGGLING for cryin' out loud!!
Post by: Michael DeSantis on June 04, 2003, 02:10:44 PM
It ain't always what you got, but how you use it that counts......
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"Chopping Wood For over Two Decades"