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thewhiz

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Sport Pattern No Clue
« on: March 08, 2020, 01:58:02 PM »
Just bowled in a tournament with a sport pattern.  Bowled so bad.  No idea why.  Anywhere where you can get lessons on bowling on those.  I have tons of balls.  Use surface.  Read lane graphs.  But when I bowl on them i stink.  I average 218 on house so i have some skills.  It's very frustrating.  Guys in the same tournament are shooting 700s.  I dont have many revs.  I tend to blame it on that but I dont know.
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2020, 05:55:25 PM »
best advice I can give is play straighter; this will help your mistakes be a makeable spare instead of a catastrophic split.  and watch those of similar style as you that are having success.  and try to play the lanes the same.

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avabob

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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2020, 06:30:20 PM »
Sport pattern tells me nothing.   Length can be anywhere from 24 to 47 feet.  You need to know the length, snd have a strategy to attack it. 

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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2020, 06:32:35 PM »
To me, the best way to learn is by bowling more on sport shots and less on house shots. Most house shots can mask issues in consistency. (Accuracy, release, timing, ball speed)

You also have to understand that patterns can play different from lane graphs depending on the lane surface and topography.

If you look on YouTube, I believe both JR Raymond and the Brad and Kyle channels had videos on playing sport patterns. Again, I still believe the best way of learning is to bowl on tougher patterns more often
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2020, 07:40:46 AM »
You need to look at the lane from to back instead of side to side like a house wall.  You don't have the bumper on the outside and the puddle in middle for hold.  The friction is at the end of the pattern. Most sport shots I have encountered are designed to force you to place them in a certain way. 

The may FORCE you on the gutter, or up the 6 board, or tight across the 5th arrow.  If you are a league bowler who stands left, throws right into a 5 board area, or like to go up 10 and bounce it off the dry,  you have just been awakened to real bowling. 
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2020, 08:00:10 AM »
Step one is to be able to hit what you are looking at.  There is no substitute for that.   
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2020, 08:27:34 AM »
Things change when that hold isn't in the middle and when we get the ball going left to right it doesn't slow down as it goes right.... 
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2020, 08:50:46 AM »
Information is king. Get the pattern info when it’s made available. Some make it available before the tournament, some after.

If it’s something they made up and there’s only the graph that day, take pictures of it.

Make detailed notes on your experience. Ball choices. Surface prep/changes. Where you tried to play it. What worked, what didn’t.

The answers are there, you just have to find them. With enough information at hand, that becomes much easier.
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2020, 09:44:31 AM »
Well, a "sport pattern" is, by tendency, a flat affair, so that the lane's outside areas feature a higher volume of lane conditioner. There's (much) less room for error, so that the flat shot reveals inconsistencies of any kind: hitting your marks/targets and breakpoint, speed, release changes, etc. It's like a magnifying glass, and if you are not used to such a condition, it can be VERY frustrating (and revealing, too).

My best tip from personal experience is: keep your game simple and rather avoid a big hook - minimizing error sources (e. g. for splits and other ugly leaves) is IMHO the ticket to mild success, and rather rely on your spare game than on strikes.
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2020, 02:34:29 PM »
I know it is important to be a good spare shooter on flatter patterns.  However you better be hitt8ng the pocket or you are looking at nasty spare combinations.  On warmup try playing different zones on the lane, like 5 board, 10 board, 15 board
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2020, 04:11:31 PM »
High Level for right handers;

-Ball doesn’t hook, move left.

-Ball hooks too much, move right.
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2020, 02:05:06 AM »
Sport shots are only intimidating when you haven't bowled them before. Don't try to hook everything. Focus on being accurate and hitting your target.  The biggest thing you have to remember is sport shots no matter which one it is won't do you any favors. On a house shot you miss your intended target by a board a lot of times the house shot unless you really missed by a lot will find its way back to the pocket for a strike.

On most sport shots you miss just a little it might be an 8 count or a split.

For me I found the biggest problem was and sometimes still is the spare shooting.  You just don't have,the same margin for error that you do on a house shot.

Your other big issue is the lane transitions. Depending on lane traffic from other bowlers, and the oil pattern the could be slow and subtle, or faster and more drastic.

Just try to be more direct to the pocket on the first ball and don't miss your target  if possible on your spare attempts. Watch other bowlers with styles similar to yours watch how they play the Patterns.  It will help. Only other thing you can do in the moment is,try to relax while at the same time maintaining your focus. Mental errors on a sport shots are enemy number 1.

My advice if you really want to get better on a sport shot join a spot league take your lumps. You will have nights where the pattern fits your A game. Other times not so much. That is when you figure out plan B and C. But after awhile you start to learn which ball matches up with which pattern have different balls with different drill layouts surface prep all that.

The oil pattern no matter what it is will be less intimidating after you see a few.

What will probably happen if you do what I do and a lot of other bowlers do bowl both a sport league and a standard house league. You will find you will get better at the sport shots, and struggle more on your standard house patterns. Hell sometimes even a dry lane open play shot will be less frustrating then the WTF pattern is this mystery variation of whatever the house shot is in your home center.  Good luck and happy😁🎳
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2020, 03:58:42 AM »
Quote from: Bo.Wler on March 11, 2020, 02:05:06 AM
Sport shots are only intimidating when you haven't bowled them before. Don't try to hook everything. Focus on being accurate and hitting your target.  The biggest thing you have to remember is sport shots no matter which one it is won't do you any favors. On a house shot you miss your intended target by a board a lot of times the house shot unless you really missed by a lot will find its way back to the pocket for a strike.

On most sport shots you miss just a little it might be an 8 count or a split.

For me I found the biggest problem was and sometimes still is the spare shooting.  You just don't have,the same margin for error that you do on a house shot.

Your other big issue is the lane transitions. Depending on lane traffic from other bowlers, and the oil pattern the could be slow and subtle, or faster and more drastic.

Just try to be more direct to the pocket on the first ball and don't miss your target  if possible on your spare attempts. Watch other bowlers with styles similar to yours watch how they play the Patterns.  It will help. Only other thing you can do in the moment is,try to relax while at the same time maintaining your focus. Mental errors on a sport shots are enemy number 1.

My advice if you really want to get better on a sport shot join a spot league take your lumps. You will have nights where the pattern fits your A game. Other times not so much. That is when you figure out plan B and C. But after awhile you start to learn which ball matches up with which pattern have different balls with different drill layouts surface prep all that.

The oil pattern no matter what it is will be less intimidating after you see a few.

What will probably happen if you do what I do and a lot of other bowlers do bowl both a sport league and a standard house league. You will find you will get better at the sport shots, and struggle more on your standard house patterns. Hell sometimes even a dry lane open play shot will be less frustrating then the WTF pattern is this mystery variation of whatever the house shot is in your home center.  Good luck and happy😁🎳

What are you talking about? He said sport shot, not US open, you can miss by a board left and right of target.
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2020, 10:39:53 AM »
If you are accurate and consistent, it is a matter of figuring where or how  to play the lanes. If you are inaccurate and inconsistent, you get exposed.  Pretty simple.
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Re: Sport Pattern No Clue
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2020, 10:58:40 AM »
My only league is in a sport league on hard proanvil surfaces. We change patterns every 2 weeks. My biggest "tip" is that you can use a MUCH lower surface grit than you ever would on a house shot. Even on the shorter patterns. There's been weeks where I've hit big cover balls with a 360 and 500 pad to start out with. Granted, a 360-500 Abralon starts surfacing at a much higher grit after a couple of uses so they're more like 800-1200 grit by the time you use them 5-6 times, but surface is your friend.

The volume of oil in the heads and midlane, especially on the PBA patterns is so much that your ball never slows down. That combined with the hard lane surface makes every pattern play 5 feet or so longer than it should. With my high rotation/low tilt it's been torture this year league wise, but in the rare time I touch a house shot, I'm shooting higher scores with much tighter delta between high game a low games.

The biggest takeaway is how house shots make people way better spare shooters than they actually are. I've seen guys with 50+ 300s that shoot right side spares backup with a ton of revs on it on a house shot at an almost 100% clip get on sport and can't shoot 170s because their house shot spare shooting system doesn't work.

Bottom line is, unless you're among the best in the world, you have to accept that you're going to bowl bad. As long as you're learning why you're bowling bad and what the moves are, even if you can't physically repeat them shot to shot, you will score much higher and more consistent when you go back to house patterns.
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