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NeumannKnight

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Starting a new bowling company
« on: June 30, 2010, 05:47:29 AM »
Let's try this again since some people decide to be immature about everything.


I am truly interested in starting my own bowling supply company. I have been giving thought to this for the past few years because I would like to make an impact in the bowling industry somehow. I am knowledgeable when it comes to business so I do have the will to follow through on this. I have a passion for bowling as well and would really love to get it going. You have any ideas for me? Even if I would be able to get poured by another company so I can have my own product on the market.

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Columbia 300 Perfect Rival
Hammer Jigsaw
Storm Reign & Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line The Gauntlet (my favorite)
900 Global Break Out (my new toy)
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NeumannKnight

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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2010, 12:39:38 PM »
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What qstick777 wrote is very good and accurate.  Making a living at it is tough - you have to have or build up a core customer base otherwise you won''t make it.  That was the biggest issue with InSite, the balls were great, but there was not a core group of customers that could be relied on the buy the latest releases, like Lane #1 or MoRich.  I used to work with Mark Russo on his website, so I got an insider''s view of the business and it ended very badly for InSite.

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Oh I'm well aware of who you are Paul. I purchased a Revelation from you and Mark. I was the one you spoke extensively on the phone with. I actually still roll that ball and I love it
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300 Perfect Rival
Hammer Jigsaw
Storm Reign & Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line The Gauntlet (my favorite)
900 Global Break Out (my new toy)
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StickZ

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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2010, 01:11:41 PM »
dont let anyone stop what you wanna do. research it good know what you have to do and go for it bro!! i think it would be awesome to do. takes time, money and patience. all of which i dont have a surplus of LOL.
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psaunders300

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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2010, 02:03:22 PM »
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Oh I'm well aware of who you are Paul. I purchased a Revelation from you and Mark. I was the one you spoke extensively on the phone with. I actually still roll that ball and I love it
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300 Perfect Rival
Hammer Jigsaw
Storm Reign & Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line The Gauntlet (my favorite)
900 Global Break Out (my new toy)


I still use my Revelation too, although there are not too many of us around who do, LOL.  I wish you well and hope your business takes off!!  Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you out!
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Paul Saunders
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NeumannKnight

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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2010, 02:28:14 PM »
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Oh I'm well aware of who you are Paul. I purchased a Revelation from you and Mark. I was the one you spoke extensively on the phone with. I actually still roll that ball and I love it
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300 Perfect Rival
Hammer Jigsaw
Storm Reign & Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line The Gauntlet (my favorite)
900 Global Break Out (my new toy)


I still use my Revelation too, although there are not too many of us around who do, LOL.  I wish you well and hope your business takes off!!  Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you out!
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Paul Saunders
USBC Bronze Level Coach
http://bowling.psaunders.net



Wanna team up? Haha.

I think I may have already asked you this before, but do you know if Mark was sitting on any backstock of InSite equipment. I was just curious
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300 Perfect Rival
Hammer Jigsaw
Storm Reign & Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line The Gauntlet (my favorite)
900 Global Break Out (my new toy)
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psaunders300

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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2010, 03:10:54 PM »
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Oh I'm well aware of who you are Paul. I purchased a Revelation from you and Mark. I was the one you spoke extensively on the phone with. I actually still roll that ball and I love it
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300 Perfect Rival
Hammer Jigsaw
Storm Reign & Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line The Gauntlet (my favorite)
900 Global Break Out (my new toy)


I still use my Revelation too, although there are not too many of us around who do, LOL.  I wish you well and hope your business takes off!!  Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you out!
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Paul Saunders
USBC Bronze Level Coach
http://bowling.psaunders.net



Wanna team up? Haha.

I think I may have already asked you this before, but do you know if Mark was sitting on any backstock of InSite equipment. I was just curious
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300 Perfect Rival
Hammer Jigsaw
Storm Reign & Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line The Gauntlet (my favorite)
900 Global Break Out (my new toy)


Haha. I am very close to where qstick777 was (with a little capital), but I'm in the process of finishing my basement and putting in a pool, so ...

Mark did not have any inventory left, but I believe Visionary had / has some because every now and then I see bunch (20 or so) NIB Revelations on eBay when there were only "100" of them made...my guess is that Visionary made a crap load of these (400-500) and Mark only took delivery of 100 of them while Visionary kept the rest - please remember that this only is my guess, I have no proof or basis other than my observations to go on.

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Paul Saunders
USBC Bronze Level Coach
http://bowling.psaunders.net
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jls

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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2010, 04:00:57 PM »
Feel free to name one of your releases, the PIT BULL...
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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2010, 04:04:15 PM »
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I was just gonna say something about pin breaker as well. I owned a few of these way back. Details hazy but it seems like he Almost had a deal worked out with a big maker, that fell thru, and then slowly faded out of business.




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One of the reasons they may have failed was that, when they came out, they tried selling them to pro shops for $72...While selling them directly to the public for $45...

I knew of a few pro shops that were just a little p-off when they found that out...

Now I wonder who it was that told them...
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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2010, 06:54:05 AM »
If you have a passion for this sport like I do and it is something you believe in yourself to do, then you should give it a shot. We, as Americans, are only trying to live the American dream to be successful.

The one point of advice I would give you is to be "pro shop loyal".

As a league bowler is the "bread and butter" to the bowling center, I believe pro shops are just that to a bowling manufacturer company. Be fair, have integrity, show that to your potential future customers, have class, and for the love of God, BE HONEST.

Hope everything works out for you NeumannKnight and God Bless You!
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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2010, 11:44:41 PM »
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Oh I'm well aware of who you are Paul. I purchased a Revelation from you and Mark. I was the one you spoke extensively on the phone with. I actually still roll that ball and I love it
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300 Perfect Rival
Hammer Jigsaw
Storm Reign & Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line The Gauntlet (my favorite)
900 Global Break Out (my new toy)


I still use my Revelation too, although there are not too many of us around who do, LOL.  I wish you well and hope your business takes off!!  Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help you out!
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Thanks,
Paul Saunders
USBC Bronze Level Coach
http://bowling.psaunders.net



Wanna team up? Haha.

I think I may have already asked you this before, but do you know if Mark was sitting on any backstock of InSite equipment. I was just curious
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My current arsenal includes:
Columbia 300 Perfect Rival
Hammer Jigsaw
Storm Reign & Natural (best ball ever)
Nu-Line The Gauntlet (my favorite)
900 Global Break Out (my new toy)


When you are ready to hire a road sales manager/staffer, let me know!!  I'm great, just ask me!!  I can sell ice to jls!!
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Re: Starting a new bowling company
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2010, 10:34:41 AM »
I'm going to be the skeptic here...if you have a passion for the game that is understandable, but from a logical perspective let's look at the reality.

Bowling is in serious decline, most of the mid-major manufacturers and brand names have been sold due to a lack of profitability (Track, Hammer, Roto Grip).  Brunswick moved its operation south of the border because it couldn't maintain a competitive profit here in the US.

Even if you are successful, you are going after a dwindling customer base.  League bowlers are down 70% since 1980, and will continue to do so until there is noone left.  You might as well take whatever capital you were going to invest in it and burn it.  The game isn't growing, and won't for some time soon (until USBC is gone).

I just think you are wasting your money...
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