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Title: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: anorexicwonder on April 25, 2008, 02:15:27 AM
I swear that I read in the book, "Science of Bowling Maintenance 2000" that to combat sticky approaches, simply spread a little of sawdust around.  The theory is, that sawdust is organic, doesn't get into the pores of the approach, and sweeps up easily.  The only problem is it might drift onto the lane surface and mix with the oil.

Seeing that the center did not want to control the on-lane climate, NOBODY was able to slide normally.  (Very warm & humid)  I proceded to use the little bag of sawdust I carry around.  Unfortunately, center management caught me using it.  I argued my point to no avail, the center's mechanic disagreed with me as well.  They both felt that the sawdust would absorb into the pores and "make a mess" of things.  I was politely asked to leave as a result. (It's an independant house, NOT Brunswick or AMF.)

Now, I tried using the felt sliding heel on my Dexter's, and still produced no slide at all.  Anything rubber made it even worse.  Other than sliding on my socks, any ideas?
Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: NicholasE on April 25, 2008, 10:17:58 AM
Slide right by ebonite? Baby powder? all kinds of things can work but can be deamed as illegal because you would be altering the approach.
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Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: AngloBowler on April 25, 2008, 11:11:27 AM
Well, for starters, the centre clearly needs to learn to clean their approaches properly. Technically, putting anything onto the approach or the sole of your shoe that alters the condition of the approaches is against the rules. However, I believe that if no-one is happy with the approaches, then it would be within the spirit of the rules if not the letter. I personally have never experienced atmosphere so humid that it affected sliding on the approach, does the proprietor not understand that a humidity this severe would adversely affect the lane material too?

Other than getting down on your hands an knees and wiping the approaches with a towel, there's not much I can suggest...
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Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: Aloarjr810 on April 25, 2008, 12:20:35 PM
You tried one of the slide socks?
Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: dizzyfugu on April 25, 2008, 12:25:19 PM
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Slide right by ebonite? Baby powder? all kinds of things can work but can be deamed as illegal because you would be altering the approach.



That's the problem. Cigarette ashes, rubbed under the sole, is rumored to work well, too, and not be that obvious. But with the smoking ban it might be hard to arrange it...
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Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: Phoneman on April 25, 2008, 12:28:04 PM
http://www.bowlersslidesock.com/

I have been using these for 2 years and they are great.  I have Dexter SSt7s and have no problem putting these over the shoe.  These are revesible giving them twice the life.  I usally buy them 2 at a time so I have a spare on hand at all times.

Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: MI 2 AZ on April 25, 2008, 01:49:51 PM
Teflon.

The 900 Global Ultra Tours have a set of teflon pucks available but they look very thin and delicate.  When I start using mine more, I will start making my own teflon pucks.

I have some teflon pucks for my Exxtras that work very well.  They dont normally come with the Exxtras so you either have to find some like I did or make your own (like Charlest and myself).  

For other shoes, you can try the teflon sole that is sold online and at some proshops.  Master used to have one, not sure if it is still available.

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Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: livespive on April 25, 2008, 01:55:16 PM
Teflon is you friend

At 6'2" 375 friction is my enemy
I have PBS shoes with the teflon pucks in them, an they
work like a dream.
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Edited on 4/25/2008 2:00 PM
Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: anorexicwonder on April 25, 2008, 04:33:30 PM
I think some of you folks didn't read this closely enough:

"Now, I tried using the felt sliding HEEL on my Dexter's, and still produced no slide at all. Anything rubber made it even worse. Other than sliding on my socks, any ideas?"

Even the most sliding sole and the felt heel produced a near instant stop on the approach on that day.  Great for knee injuries...
Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: stussycole on April 25, 2008, 05:43:23 PM
My Thursday league was like that a few weeks ago.  Enough people complained that the manager finally turned the AC on.   Many people were still having problems until the 3rd game.  I actually did a 1-step approach for the first 2 games so I wouldn't injure myself.  One guy on my team uses a slide sock and he was having the almost no issues.
Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: MI 2 AZ on April 25, 2008, 11:57:15 PM
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Even the most sliding sole and the felt heel produced a near instant stop on the approach on that day.


I was taught that you should slide on the front part of the foot and use the heel as a brake.  With the old shoes that were in use at the time, most had only rubber heels so that may have been the reason.  Don't most people still use the heel as a brake, dropping the heel down only during the last part of the slide?  


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Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: lsf_21 on April 26, 2008, 12:14:52 AM
quote:
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Even the most sliding sole and the felt heel produced a near instant stop on the approach on that day.


I was taught that you should slide on the front part of the foot and use the heel as a brake.  With the old shoes that were in use at the time, most had only rubber heels so that may have been the reason.  Don't most people still use the heel as a brake, dropping the heel down only during the last part of the slide?  


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most people i know slide on the whole foot, i dont want to slide much so i use an aggressive brake and slide on the whole foot, my dad however uses the red brake that dexter has and slides forever. ive never had a problem with tacky approaches i have a problem with slick approaches, people around here use the slide sock and love it on tacky and slick approaches alike.
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Title: Re: Sticky approaches, and how (not) to deal with them...
Post by: JessN16 on April 26, 2008, 02:20:04 AM
I slide on the front part of the foot only. The heel is the brake for me.

This might not be the best advice for you, but it has worked for me in the past: Learn to bowl with no slide at all. I learned it by bowling in tennis shoes. Just plain step-and-plant. If I find a house that I can't get a consistent slide in, I'll just stop sliding altogether.

Jess