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Sn

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Looking for a smooth arc reactive
« on: May 25, 2006, 03:18:04 AM »
I hate those skid/flip ball reactions and so I'm looking for a reactive ball that rolls a smooth and controllable arc. A solid reactive I suppose.

Please also give me some advice on the drilling. Should I put the pin close to the PAP to achieve the smooth arc reaction?

I'm currently bowling in a medium-heavy oiled house (around 40ft of oil) with some carrydown. And I suppose I'm a low ball speed, low rev rate stroker.

Thanks in advance!

 

Slopsurprise

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Re: Looking for a smooth arc reactive
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2006, 12:43:10 PM »
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My arcing control type ball is my Vapor Zone.  It has a low RG so it will naturally roll early, and if you put the pin below the fingers, it will not snap on you.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=4/10203013067.jpg&s=x10

That is how I have mine laid out, it is a very smooth and controllable ball.

Its depends on who's throwing it and how their throwing it. Mine has the pin 3/4 of an inch below bridge and the MB on the VAL and I can get it to turn the corner very fast!

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Re: Looking for a smooth arc reactive
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2006, 05:20:23 PM »
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i can tell u what seems to be working well for me . I am a rev and speed challenged bowler. if i get the ball over 15 its like John force thru the quarter. i am usually between 13.5 and 14.5. I have a polished phenom unleashed with a 2 inch pin drilled stack leverage and the ball is flat out awesome in med to med heavy conditions. If the back ends are tame enough it will even play down and in on heavyier longer patterns. Its not jumpy and has a very predictable move to the pocket. It will recover well if you are playing deep on the drier shots ,but there has to be head oil, once the heads go away its useless without speed. Its my benchmark ball. Now if i could just fill the spots above and below it.

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OK, so this gives you a real life starting point. The PU (bad initials, ) is a medium strong ball with a strong backend, in general. Polish works on it for you (Let's be real here: it's essential for you because of your low ball speed.) Now for a ball to cover heavier oil than this for you, you have two options: use the same ball but use it duller or use a stronger ball with a similar or equivalent level of polish.

Now since it will be very hard to fins another PU, if you'd like to stick with Track, they have the Robo Rule or an older GP2. Now whatever you choose, the likelihood is that, as long as it's stronger (by stronger, I mean it will handle more oil) than the PU, which these should be, you will probably need to do one of tweo things to make it work for your low ball speed. One, add polish as you did to the PU, or two, to sand it finer than the stock ball surface. By that I mean, mant Track balls come with a 1500 grit surface (left dull). If you sand it to 2000 grit or even 4000 grit (there are Abralon pads that can do this easily),the ball will skid further than the stock surface, but will handle oil a little bit better thna a polish.

The same is true for a ball to handle less oil than your PU. A good example is the Arsenal Reactive, which is a strong resin ball. It comes sanded; a little polish (or a fine sanding, as mentioned above) will make it usable for your low ball speed. This is general and early revving ball, but weaker than the PU. A smooth drilling (there are lots of options WITHOUT getting extreme like pin on PAP) will make it rev up even sooner and reduce any flippiness that may be produced by polish.
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Re: Looking for a smooth arc reactive
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2006, 06:29:02 PM »
I think you shouldn't give up on throwing a skid flip ball.  There is definitely a spot in every one's arsenal for that reaction.  Especially, for a person with your stats.  Instead of saying you hate this reaction, practise with it and master it, when the condition is right the skid flip ball opens up the lane and carries all day

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Re: Looking for a smooth arc reactive
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2006, 08:48:38 AM »
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I think you shouldn't give up on throwing a skid flip ball.  There is definitely a spot in every one's arsenal for that reaction.  Especially, for a person with your stats.  Instead of saying you hate this reaction, practise with it and master it, when the condition is right the skid flip ball opens up the lane and carries all day



I agree a skid flip reaction can be deadly on the right conditions.  However an arcing ball is always good to have.  Just use a duller surface and an arc drill layout and you should be good.  

Ebonite makes a great matte polish that really smooths out the break point.  I highly recommend this matte polish if your looking for an arcing ball.

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Re: Looking for a smooth arc reactive
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2006, 11:05:17 AM »
To save myself some money I'm considering to redrill and sand down my Element Zr40.

Other than the pin axis drilling what would you fellows recommend? I totally have no idea on ball layouts.

Where should I put the pin? How about the CG?
And where should the balance hole be located?

Thank you all!

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Re: Looking for a smooth arc reactive
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2006, 03:22:16 PM »
is the skid flip reaction a condition of the ball and drilling or is it a condition of the way the bowler bowls. I tend to stay behind the ball ,can i drill a ball to skid /flip regardless of how i throw.
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