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hotshot187

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streched span vs relaxed span
« on: July 16, 2006, 12:25:22 PM »
Can somebody explain the differences and why would chose one over the other?


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LuckyLefty

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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2006, 01:29:38 PM »
Walter Ray Williams...relaxed span...full span..?

Me say full but not to the standard above...

I say it lloks like fingers are stretched but last joint is in the middle of the hole.

To front edge is VERY stretched and could hurt!

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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2006, 01:39:09 PM »
Not to start anything, but I wonder what Robbie uses?  That is what the standard should be because it scores the best .

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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2006, 01:43:48 PM »
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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2006, 05:07:33 PM »
but seriously...folks...does anyone say that Walter Ray has a RELAXED span?

I believe there are still some very full fingertip spans on tour..

I think Walter Ray, PDW...TJ...I'm not sure Patrick Allen...

Anyone else?

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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2006, 05:58:22 PM »
I recently switched from stretched to relaxed and can still get as many if not more revs on the ball as before with less wear and tear on my hand and fingers. I did this at the start of the summer and ended up 10 pins higher than my last book avg. Think of it this way, which ball could you control better, a softball ( relaxed) or a basketball ( stretched) .
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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2006, 06:02:12 PM »
Im a very relaxed span, puts a lot less strain on my hands and fingers than a streched span. I prefer relaxed.
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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2006, 06:59:38 PM »
AS to Walter Ray....?

Ummm Basketball?

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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2006, 07:09:09 PM »
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I recently switched from stretched to relaxed and can still get as many if not more revs on the ball as before with less wear and tear on my hand and fingers. I did this at the start of the summer and ended up 10 pins higher than my last book avg. Think of it this way, which ball could you control better, a softball ( relaxed) or a basketball ( stretched) .


I did the exact samething this summer and my results are the same! Relaxed span is the way to go!
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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2006, 07:20:30 PM »
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I recently switched from stretched to relaxed and can still get as many if not more revs on the ball as before with less wear and tear on my hand and fingers. I did this at the start of the summer and ended up 10 pins higher than my last book avg. Think of it this way, which ball could you control better, a softball ( relaxed) or a basketball ( stretched) .


I did the exact samething this summer and my results are the same! Relaxed span is the way to go!


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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2006, 07:32:06 PM »
To be honest, the relaxed span is supposed to be the way to go but I've given thought of returning to a more stretched span, not as stretched as before but more than I have now, it gives my hand a much more locked in feel and I can control it better. Maybe it's all in my head.
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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2006, 09:26:32 PM »
I didn't realize that there was such a thing as relaxed span or stretched span.

My original bowling balls have relaxed span definetly.  According to one driller he thought I must knuckle the ball as a result of the shorter span.  I don't knuckle at all.

I went with there span recommendation on my "The One" and now I feel to outstretched.  I also feel like I am gripping the ball now and it has cut down on my rev rate noticeably.  I feel slightly more strain when too. I also get a big red mark on my thumb now that I never had before.

I think the relaxed span is better for me.  I don't know if it matters but I have short fingers.  I think that might be another reason I prefer the relaxed span.
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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2006, 07:21:50 AM »
As to Walter Ray, PDW, Tommy Jones...anyone have a feel.

I believe they are all 3...full fingertip...not relaxed at all.

Anyone know?

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PS I believe it is important to know there are really at least 3 variations.
1)relaxed 2) full fingertip...puts last joint in middle of hole or slightly over 3)stretched...as John P says...puts last joint over lip of hole(ouch...I can't imagine that!)
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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2006, 08:19:11 AM »
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but seriously...folks...does anyone say that Walter Ray has a RELAXED span?
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I think Walter Ray, PDW...TJ...I'm not sure Patrick Allen...

Anyone else?
REgards,
Luckylefty


Based on what?
Until you examine his hand and see how it fits in his ball, how can you say one way or the other? Or maybe you have examined him up close?

I've seen little guys who bowl daily have their hands and bones stretched out quite a bit. Bigger guys like Walter Ray can have well over 5" spans and still not be a stretched.

"full" fingertip does not mean stretched. Perhaps we should define out terms here ....
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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2006, 08:54:59 AM »
On Walter Ray's site he stated his span is 4 1/2 4 7/16. The way he stated it I assumed that was hole to hole. So total span is probably 4 3/4 4 3/4.

Thumb pitch is 0 rev 3/16 right.

Like Charlest said without having their hand there you can't tell.

I would think for his height it would be a fairly relax grip.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: streched span vs relaxed span
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2006, 08:58:59 AM »
Yes...I defined my terms specifically!

1 2 and 3.

As to Walter Ray's TommY Jones and PDW...to my eye on tv they look
"Full fingertip...ie number 2 not stretched(no3)".

I have no idea if I am right...

Anyone know?

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