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KDawg77

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HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« on: April 24, 2013, 02:46:53 PM »
My local house went to Kegel's Easy Street pattern and I'm struggling with what I considered to me light-medium oil equipment (Grape and Cherry Vibes). I have to go to my old Blue Hammer. I've been playing fairly straight up the maybe 15 out to 8. Everything else overreacts. The Vibes are pin up and maybe causing too much back end reaction, perhaps?

Any thoughts?
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Gizmo823

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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 03:11:19 PM »
What's the main objective here?  If you go to Hammer's website and watch their ball videos, most of them are on Easy Street.  My first reaction is that you're playing too far right, so move left, but if you want to make it work for where you're playing at, you may have to change balls.  The Vibes are most likely getting into their midlane rolls and backend transition too early.  Instead of making it through the heads then starting to roll, they're catching early dry and starting to roll too early, so they turn instantly when they hit the dry on the backend.  I'd either try something like 20-8 with the Vibes or change balls.  The Vibes should become smoother, but by still getting it out to the 8 board, catch enough dry to give you a good backend motion. 
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KDawg77

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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 03:19:52 PM »
Well, I've been playing 25 or further to 8. Both balls are OOB surface and CG pretty much in palm with pin up over ring finger. I meant that with the old Blue Hammer I've been playing 15 to 8. Sorry I didn't clarify.

Basic objective is to just keep it in my pocket.

Maybe I need to go to my Doom for more length? Sort of lost.

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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2013, 03:57:24 PM »
I think Gizmo has it right. The times I have played the Easy Street pattern I stayed primarily in the middle of the lane with an archy piece, and tried to keep it smooth. I did not hit up on the ball much at all, and just let the ball transition to the pocket. If I remember correctly , the Vibes are fairly angular. If that is the case do not swing them too much. I twill keep down on the backend over reaction.
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Brandon Riley

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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2013, 04:15:10 PM »
I'd recommend playing straighter with equipment that is not flippy
Remember the pattern is 37' so your ideal breakpoint is 5-7 and it is hard to create consistency pitching the ball out 20 boards with that many dry boards on the backend.  The pattern length is probably why your blue hammer has been your most viable option.
I've liked what I have seen out of slingshots, misfits and blue karmas with lower pins and matte finishes. 
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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2013, 04:45:37 PM »
"EASY STREET - 7938 Because of the medium distance of this pattern, it is favorable to many different styles and ball choices. Bowlers with higher rev rates can easily swing the ball and bowlers with lower rev rates can play more direct. This pattern is just like walking down EASY STREET with no worries on a nice summer day."


Sounds like close your eyes, throw it anywhere, rip it, and pray you carry...  Don't over think it..  It's a house shot.

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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 07:36:14 AM »
If the Vibe is too much over/under, you might try sanding it to 4000.  This will smooth out the reaction and you may have some success with that.
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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2013, 08:47:35 AM »
I think part of the other problem is that pin over ring is not weak drilling; in fact, if you have an average PAP, it is one of the strongest drillings. While the Cherry is for medium-light oil, the Grape may be one of Hammer weaker balls, but, in reality it is a true medium oil ball.

It would have helped you to use a lower pin (a higher VAL angle) and a further pin-PAP distance to smooth out the reaction with the Vibes. Alternatively, you could just get a true mild, light oil ball, like a Tropical Breeze of an older Backlash which were weaker than the Vibes.

Of course, with your rev rate and ball speed, using the urethane Blue Hammer and playing a more outside line, you could tear that house apart.
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Brandon Riley

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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2013, 11:28:16 AM »
On newer, harder surfaces this shot can be super easy.
On worn surfaces it can be ugly as it is hard to keep the ball on line as the oil is a bit shorter and the volume isn't that high.  Consider looking at some low end equipment so that you can play a straighter, more comfortable angle
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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2013, 07:53:35 AM »
Thanks for the inputs! :)

I'm considering obtaining a new Blue Hammer with a modern drilling since I generally match-up with Vibe cored balls really well and going with a lower pin.

Like charlest said I concur with the long pin placement perhaps causing some overly strong backend reactions. Changing the Cherry;s surface might work well, too.

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Re: HELP - Easy Street Pattern Advice
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2013, 08:27:07 AM »
... Changing the Cherry's surface might work well, too.

If it's at the stock surface (4000 grit + polish), it's as fine as you can get UNLESS you want to add a slip agent type of polish.

Since it's your mildest ball and it's still too strong, what you could try is to haze the surface with a dampened 4000 grit Abralon or Siaair pad by hand to remove the shine/gloss of the polish. That will make it read the midlane earlier and reduce the backend somewhat.
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