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JOE FALCO

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Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« on: June 02, 2019, 03:06:32 PM »
I thought the bowling on TV today was GREAT! I was routing for the winner since the very beginning! Love his style ..don't want to say too much at this time!
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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2019, 10:43:30 AM »
Make noise like that in PGA tournament backswing and they will exit you.

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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2019, 11:20:49 AM »
I like the current presentations on FS1 and fox better than what espn was doing...however, I don't care for the crowd noise allowed during all parts of the shot, nor do I like that they have crowd bleachers running all the way down the lane...I like the "old days" where the crowd was quiet during the approach and shot until the result of the shot came about....I don't know how the current pros do it, but I would find the crowd noise and the fans seated all the way down the lane a bit distracting.

Brad

Yea, and the crowd(and players) should be able to smoke during the competition...  ::)

Lol the good ole days.  Honestly the cheering would be so jarring if it wasn't so obviously manufactured by Fox.  Probably have a teleprompter for the crowd (who are probably mostly Fox schills) ala old sitcoms or at least some kind of cheer leader types (think guy cheerleader with cone at college games).  Still good on them I guess for increasing the ratings.
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JOE FALCO

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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2019, 12:09:35 PM »
Don't you think .."if the noise bothered the bowlers ..they would have put a stop to it?"
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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2019, 12:18:17 PM »
Forget tradition. It's time to get people excited. Blow the roof off the place.

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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2019, 12:30:32 PM »
I’ve never had so much fun watching Bowling, especially love the ringing of the bell for the roll-offs. This formula is a winner. This is not chess. It shouldn’t be quiet!

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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2019, 12:52:31 PM »
Bowling did need a Happy Gilmore like remake.
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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2019, 04:19:57 PM »
Darts in the UK changed their quiet respect for the player around 2005 and it has boomed. The sport/pastime is going through an amazing run this past 15 years. They regularly have crowds in excess of 10,000 people to watch games. Prize money has skyrocketed. You should see the barracking certain players get from the crowds. It is a real “event” at all the venues. It was an amazing change.

Not everyone has enjoyed the change but maybe this is an attempt at something similar. If it works then bowling will be the big winner.
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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2019, 04:36:19 PM »
I like the current presentations on FS1 and fox better than what espn was doing...however, I don't care for the crowd noise allowed during all parts of the shot, nor do I like that they have crowd bleachers running all the way down the lane...I like the "old days" where the crowd was quiet during the approach and shot until the result of the shot came about....I don't know how the current pros do it, but I would find the crowd noise and the fans seated all the way down the lane a bit distracting.

Brad

This only occurs at Portland Bowl. Other shows don't have all of the noise

It sounds like the PBA and Fox really like the atmosphere.  I wonder if they are going to adopt the constant crowd noise going forward at other venues.  The 2020 PBA playoffs are going to be at Bowlero facilities around the country, so they won't have the Portland, Maine fans.
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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2019, 06:14:57 PM »
The Atmosphere is only like that at Bayside. I was in attendance for about 8-10 shows during my 5 years in Las Vegas. Outside of Francois Lavoie shooting 300, no one seemed excited to be there, except the youth bowlers and immediate families of the participants. The finals in Jersey is a good place to have next year's finals. The northeast isn't going to sit on their hands and yawn.

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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2019, 06:55:23 PM »
Bowling did need a Happy Gilmore like remake.

I couldn't help but think of that movie after I posted.....the part where Shooter Mcgavin get's disgusted with the crowds at one event and says something like "geez you people, this is golf!"

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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2019, 05:38:22 AM »

Kinda like BowlingForDonuts referred to.  The excitement is fine, but it's so obviously manufactured by Fox that it loses steam. 

Let the fans be noisy and such.  Just let it be from the fans themselves, and not so "scripted".

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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2019, 08:39:03 AM »
Don't you think .."if the noise bothered the bowlers ..they would have put a stop to it?"

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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2019, 09:01:46 AM »

Regarding the players, I believe they are adapting because it appears that the money (Fox) says this is better for ratings.  Ratings means money that they can win.

Face it.  No bowler is used to that type of noise.  Not referring to the decibel level, but the unison singing of this or that.  It's abnormal.  We don't hear it in the rowdiest of leagues or tournaments, so it's abnormal.  Can they get used it?  Sure.

Let's say you're Joe Pro and you have the front 9 strikes and they start singing at the top of their lungs for you, don't you think there would be a tendency to try harder on the 10th, 11th, or 12th ball? 

It's human nature to want to please the crowd that is so energetically cheering for you.  However, those of us who have plenty of honor scores are trying to stay calm and do the exact same as the previous 11 shots to optimize carry on that final shot, rather than trying to do more to the ball to make it "really carry" and leave the 4 pin or worse on the last shot because we wanted to throw it "better".

The players will adapt if this is the direction things will go, but silently I would bet each bowler faced with the important shot of his career, might rather hear himself think.  Just my .02 on the subject of scripted fan behavior.



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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2019, 09:31:13 AM »
As a long time bowler and viewer since the early 80's I love the noise at BOPA! Also I can say as a player the constant noise wouldn't bother me in the least. It's much better than the early season quiet with its cell phone interruptions. Nothing more jarring than dead silence and an unexpected sound in your approach.

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Re: Sunday June 2 PBA on TV
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2019, 09:54:21 AM »
Win 100k in a noisy environment, or win 20k in silence. Hmm... Let me choose...

Turn it up.to 11 and SHOW ME THE MONEY!