I can see now.

League night the end of the first game, everyone is whipping out their abralon. A cloud of sanding dust rises at alot tables or theres a big rush to the proshop to get it threw on the spinner.

Bowlers complaining about the sanding dust getting on the approach, their takng too long at the proshop and holding up the game, someone spilled polish on the floor or didn't wipe it all off the ball.

A noob getting yelled at because he sanded with 220 grit and took all the oil off the lane, bowlers running around asking to borrow a pad.

If I was a proprietor, I wouldn't allow any ball on my lanes that appeared to be less than 1000 grit.  With bone dry outside 10 board on most house shots there is no reason to throw balls that shorten the life of my investment by literally years. 

If I was a proprietor, I wouldn't allow any ball on my lanes that appeared to be less than 1000 grit.  With bone dry outside 10 board on most house shots there is no reason to throw balls that shorten the life of my investment by literally years. 

Good thing you aren't a proprietor….. You'd think you'd put oil out side of 10 instead of banning bowling ball surface you seem to not understand.

Good thing you aren't a proprietor….. You'd think you'd put oil out side of 10 instead of banning bowling ball surface you seem to not understand.

 
Bob Hanson is the proprietor of a bowling center and a very accomplished bowler. Based on his contributions here on BR, he's proved to have a good handle on the surfaces of both balls and lanes. 
 
Most centers don't put oil outside of 10 because it's good business. Except for the very small number of better bowlers, most need help from the funnel to the pocket that dry outsides provide. It only makes sense to cater to those who spend the most.

I'm not sure what Bob's credentials have to do with if you owned a center banning surface at or below 1000 because you do not wish to put more oil on certain parts of the lane. It is your center and you will oil where you want to.

You seemed to originally question Bob's credentials for 'understanding' ball surfaces. If I misread your statement, my apologies.
 
Now, to my response. Of course centers put oil outside of 10. But the insides are mostly a puddle in comparison. That was my only message.
 
Look, proprietors are always going to put low volumes of oil outside of 10 to keep bowlers happy, and there will never be restrictions on ball surfaces. But to Bob's point, low grit balls do shorten the life of lanes, and they're not necessary to score well on a THS. Higher volume sport shots are a different animal, but those conditions are never seen by 99% of bowlers. 
 
Nothing is going to be banned. It's just a what-if discussion.   

Kidlost, based on this video, I fall back on my post a couple weeks ago. Why should we even play with surfaces or do tricks like skip-a-grit on a ths? A lower sanded ball will be ~4-5,000 grit by the end of the night. I am guessing highly polished balls will be the same by 3rd game. Different tricks with surface will be nulled after one game. Anymore, I just use 4,000 grit pads on all my equipment when I resurface except for my original mastermind. I hit it with a 500 pad or green scotch Brite pad every time I use it. And it only comes out when I have an absolute flood or heavy carry down and I have to burn a breakpoint into the lane. Anything else i feel like would be waste of time unless I wanted to touch up surfaces after every league night

Kidlost, based on this video, I fall back on my post a couple weeks ago. Why should we even play with surfaces or do tricks like skip-a-grit on a ths? A lower sanded ball will be ~4-5,000 grit by the end of the night. I am guessing highly polished balls will be the same by 3rd game. Different tricks with surface will be nulled after one game. Anymore, I just use 4,000 grit pads on all my equipment when I resurface except for my original mastermind. I hit it with a 500 pad or green scotch Brite pad every time I use it. And it only comes out when I have an absolute flood or heavy carry down and I have to burn a breakpoint into the lane. Anything else i feel like would be waste of time unless I wanted to touch up surfaces after every league night

There are many PBA members in a recent video online who talked about how little they ever clean equipment. Most throw it till they dont like the reaction and go onto the next.

Yes the surface will be changed. How quickly will depend on the balls surface, and the amount of oil, and the bowlers style which all vary from bowler to bowler.

If you had a ball spinner and you were told the next time you go bowl a tournament, league ect that the lanes are going to be heavier oil pattern, and maybe even a flatter pattern would you just leave everything as is or would you want to adjust the surface of at least one or two bowling balls to be better suited for that condition?

It is subjective to the bowler and what you choose to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh6LAhCO9pE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGDXVAdv_fs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0B873JWSmY

Great vids by Jayhawk!!!

I actually did learn a lot. That is why I said why adjust surface on a THS. Sport patterns, yes I can see regularly keeping on top of surface. And if I knew I was going to be bowling on heavy oil, I would adjust surfaces. But on a regular ths league where there is defined friction to the outside, I still see it as unneeded AS LONG AS THE EQUIPMENT IS STILL WORKING. And providing the bowler is not on a skill level 99.9% of us will ever have a hope of reaching. Maybe the issue is that, in every house I bowl at, I get my best reaction at roughly 4000 grit and slightly polished equipment, which is where the surface scans show a ball ending up at in that video. I doubt the factors that effect those numbers will change it too much. If I use equipment at a lower grit, my balls start burning up by the end of the first game. If I go higher, I lose the control I need. Also, if I keep everything at the same grit, I can control reaction shape and strength with ball choice and drilling.

And Good Times, there is no need to be condescending all the time. I'm here to learn and try to understand the game better. When i am wrong, which is frequently because I don't have a full understanding of the theoretical side of bowling, I welcome people saying "hey this is where you are wrong," and correcting me. What I don't welcome is someone saying "you didn't learn a single thing from all those excellent responses, did you?" Or whatever you said, without actually answering my new question which was different from my first question because of the answers I received. You sir are just another dick behind a keyboard trolling the Internet for fun.