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LuckyLefty

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Surprisingly Good old time arsenal!
« on: March 14, 2019, 10:00:02 AM »
So, I have visited a storage bin and been surprised in some of the results I have gotten this year.

At a classic old time heavy volume Top hat (circa 1999 2000 style shots)tournament site over the past year I have been almost 50 to 60 percent in the finals with various combo partners using a Ebonite Tornado Solid(label leverage), and a Columbia Reaction Roll(particle straight up the 10 board) and killing it!  Both of these balls circa 2001 - 2003?  This place is so old time heavy oil top hat that the righties often struggle and cant get their coast to coast mentality out of their head till they have been there about 3 times!   Can you say 2 8 10!

On our local VERY little midlane oil local house shots on the left I have recently found an old Control Zone (rg like 2.594 and .049 diff)laying around in my storage bin for 10 years and put it to use for when I want push like a pancake and backend like a 2 piece oh Nice This ball has very mediocre reviews!  My partners and opponents love the look.  Once I am forced deeper with the Control Zone I take out an newer style Tornado Warning(pearl pancake only no puck) and move near 8 and this thing pushes through the local concrete on the left and slurves in and hits hard.

TO start sets on the local concrete I just picked up a Ebonite Gyro Balanced Pancake Urethane ($3.33) or throw my Natural solid to push the oil that is to 15 feet out into the midlane concrete.  When that is successful I can sometimes use my Rhino(newer and .030 diff instead of the old Avalanche .024 version) and absolutely throw explosive pocket smashers after going straight down 9!

It is amazing to me how old this arsenal is

It is amazing to me in today's slick oils how our slowest rev bowlers in this house down to 8 mph and 3 revs on the right can get 40 feet of push and 20 feet of hook while on the left are only high average bowlers are almost 18 mph at the pocket to get through the concrete from 15 to 43 feet.  Warped lanes maybe?

But using these Urethanes to set up the condition is taking the concrete out of the midlanes but also my pancakes are pushing though quite nicely and the older weaker coverstocks slurve in so much more predictably.  Only when I have properly conditioned the shot Through league practice and a half game with Urethane, can I go to my "high powered"(ha ha) recent production Rhino pearl!

Another winner for me on another one of local midlane concrete centers is my Scout reactive Solid circa 3 years ago(pancake only) that when the middle is double oiled for tournaments on the slightly shorter shot 39 feet playing straight down 8 to start and morhphing in to 12 13 at the arrows has allowed me hang with some of the best bowlers I have ever seen in some handicap events.  With even some quite decent scratch sets.

I have one more ball I won't discuss out here.

To finish, Viva la Oldtimers on the left!

Regards,


Luckylefty




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James M. McCurley, New Orleans, Louisiana

 

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Re: Surprisingly Good old time arsenal!
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2019, 09:36:16 PM »
+1 on Scout with positive side weight. Hits better than any urethane with a core or not (at least in 16#) and wont jump on the back like other reactives.
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2handedrook12

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Re: Surprisingly Good old time arsenal!
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 12:58:55 AM »
+1 on Scout with positive side weight. Hits better than any urethane with a core or not (at least in 16#) and wont jump on the back like other reactives.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Surprisingly Good old time arsenal!
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 11:54:05 AM »
Please note!  On the Scout Reactive.

The one I have is the Black Solid Reactive(Pancake only tough to find(green pin)).  On our high friction left side it can be very angular! And cross from one side of the pocket to the other very quickly). On the right condition it is absolutely killer and properly rounded!

I find my Pancake only Tornado Warning pearl(just like todays Scouts I would guess) to typically be very rounded on a large majority of conditions. 
http://123bowl.com/bowling-balls/ebonite/tornado-warning-purple-green/   (it looks mostly green in real life!
like this https://www.google.com/search?q=ebonite+tornado+warning&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwip6-7_yYThAhUJWa0KHecdB2wQsAR6BAgFEAE&biw=1488&bih=704#imgrc=idbg1qwA_K44rM:

Of course one must realize there are many other variations.  of these Scouts(urethane solid and pearl I have one(high flare), solid reactive and pearl reactive, and pancake only, and pancake and puck).

In my OP to start this topic I was mostly talking about Pancakes only except for my Solid Tornado is Pancake and puck and higher flare than the pure pancake!
Like this http://www.ebonite.com/products/balls/retired-balls/tornado-green-purple-navy

Sincerely,

Luckylefty



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Re: Surprisingly Good old time arsenal!
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 12:47:57 PM »
Yeah Scout name has been around so long easy to not talk about the same thing.  Yeah this is the Scout I have (below) which is also a pancake.  Got it for $40 shipped from Gebhardts (in 16#).  A reactive ball for a polyester price that won't overreact (at least for me, even my Avalanche Pearl was too much ball at dry house) was a no brainer.  Might have tried an old Power Groove instead but if going new ball route doesn't get milder than a Scout (short of the urethane hybrids).

http://www.columbia300.com/products/balls/retired-balls/scout-r-raspberry-blue
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