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HamPster

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Teflon lane overlay
« on: June 04, 2003, 11:54:24 AM »
Ok, that's what's getting done to one of the houses I bowl at, and because I know the owner well enough to know he's a cheap idiot, I already KNOW it's crap, but what I want to KNOW is just how bad is it?  He needs to replace everything past the foul line, but all he's doing is overlaying, as well as already purchasing a new lane machine that will lay down his bait of a wall shot better than the last one.  The lanes are old wooden lanes, with pock marks and partially warped heads.  There is gutter capping and raised foul lines.  The pits do severe damage to balls on occasion.  The approaches seem to be ok though, although in some places there are nails sticking up from parts that have been patched.  On a very few lanes it is necessary to loft the ball a small bit to avoid abhorrent patch jobs early on in the heads.  Still, it's the biggest, and for some reason the most popular (until this year) house in the city, and since we only have 5 to begin with, and only two of them that people bowl at much (the others are veritable trash heaps, although one out north of the city is starting to gain some popularity, the one that is incredible past the foul lines is an AMF house, so you know . . ) so if this house keeps going down the drain, at least we have one nearly pristine house.  Thoughts?  Opinions?  Expertise?
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HamPster

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Re: Teflon lane overlay
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2003, 03:45:28 AM »
Yeah, that's what it's called.  Kinda what I thought too, but maybe somebody got some bad information.
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Re: Teflon lane overlay
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2003, 04:51:51 AM »
I have to agree that it sounds like somebody has their wires crossed on the composition of the new lane beds that are going in.  They will probably cut down the old wood lanes somewhat, and apply the new lane surface on top of the cut down wood lane beds.  They recently did something similar to this in the old wooden lane house here in town (where I no longer bowl).  Since the house is purchasing a new lane machine, then obviously the new surface is not an oil-free surface such as teflon might be.  My guess is that the new surface is one of the new plastic overlays that are designed to rejuvenate the old lanes.

What you DON'T want is a Guardian plastic film overlay.  Guardian is a thin film that will soon take on the same characteristics of the wood that it is covering.....it is good for about 6 months, but then it is trash.

Since you already have decent wood approaches, the best combination would be for them to cut down the lanes and do the synthetic overlay, and keep the old wood approaches.  That's what they recently did in the local house.  Synthetic approaches are definitely more of a hassle than wood approaches, so the wood approaches are worth keeping.  I bowl regularly on some decent synthetic approaches, but even the humidity within the building can make a big change in how good or bad the approaches are.  With synthetic approaches, you have to keep the humidity down inside the building, or the approaches will become extremely tacky.  What I routinely find is that if bowlers lay the ball down short of the foul line, the ball will leave an oval shaped oil mark on the approach, and this little mark of oil will be enough to cause you to have an unexpected sticking incident.  I've gotten to where I'll go out and get down on the floor and check out the approaches before each match begins, and I'll clean up any needed spots rather than sticking in them later.  On synthetic approaches, rubbing alcohol and a rag makes a good cleaner for getting the bad spots cleaned up.

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Re: Teflon lane overlay
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2003, 08:27:53 AM »
If it is the product I'm thinking about, I have heard good things about it. It is much thicker than guardian and is supposed to play like a traditional synthetic overlay. The only problem with it is that it isn't crystal clear so it may cause problems if you target something other than the arrows.

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Re: Teflon lane overlay
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2003, 08:56:48 AM »
Teflon it is not due to the softness of the resin. I have also heard of the new overlay that is about an inch thick and has a very low coefficient of friction. Have heard it rivals or slightly less than Brunswicks Pro-Anvil lanes. Jury is still out as this product is pretty new and how well it holds up is limited to very few data points. Talking with local proprietor though he said cost was quite reasonable compared to a full synthetic lane. I would expect to see many here in the northeast if this product does well as many houses are very old wood.

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Re: Teflon lane overlay
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2003, 08:57:36 AM »
Yeah, we have a house here in Lima (where the heck is that ) that has had this done to it.  I don't bowl leagues there, but i have tried it out.  You get EEEEXXXTTTRA length, and the have the back ends spotless, so Left turn Clyde.
it's not to bad of a thing.
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Re: Teflon lane overlay
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2003, 12:13:06 PM »
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What you DON'T want is a Guardian plastic film overlay. Guardian is a thin film that will soon take on the same characteristics of the wood that it is covering.....it is good for about 6 months, but then it is trash.


10: I TOTALLY disagree with you here. One of the houses that I've been bowling in for the last 3 years put down guardian because the heads were shot. Not only have the conditions held, but my average has gone UP in that 3 year span of time. Granted, at this point, there are some minor repairs needed to the surface, but 6 months and it's trash? Guess that you've been to a house where they didn't know how to set up the shot for the surface.

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Re: Teflon lane overlay
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2003, 03:21:07 PM »
It is called LaneShield and is made by DBA/Brunswick. We are having it installed in July. It is .050 thick and looks and feels like a sheet of plexiglas or more like a Lexan. The center that our owner, manager and head mechanic visited says it is the best investment he had ever made. He claimed all his averages are up, he needs less oil to get the condition to hold up and it looks great. For the Blacklight bowlers this stuff is like turning on a light, I mean it glows. As far as the old lanes go, the entire surface has to be redone before they lay it down (aka: a full resurface), then they roll this stuff out, put down a strip of two-sided tape at the foulline and trim to fit the width of the lane. After a week or two they come back a put a second strip of tape on the tailplank. Other than that it is held in place by static electricity. We will bowl our first night of league on it on July 14, so time will tell.

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Re: Teflon lane overlay
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2003, 04:11:17 PM »
Thanks a bunch, Tex!  Still, the owner of the house needs to replace everything, and he knows it.
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