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Speedburner89

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I'm extremely bored, want to start a league...
« on: August 19, 2006, 07:34:52 AM »
This school year is startin up, and the summer is drawing to a close.  I bowled two leagues over the summer, a sport league and a ths.  I finished at 175 and 207 respectively.  The ths was a huge bore, and i really enjoyed my time in the sport league even though i averaged much lower.  I'm just a kid, so i don't have much hear say in what goes on at my center, but i'm real interested in trying to get the ball rolling on a new fall league for the advanced youth bowlers in the area.  My home center of Arlington Lanes only puts out one shot for all its leagues, a ridiculously easy house shot.  After my sport league experience i want to further my experiences in sport compliant shots.  So i figured why not try to start up a sport league at my home center (the very first certified sport league at that). I know this is much easier said then done, but where there's a will there's a way.  I'm sure I can get the word out, i just need advice from experienced league secretaries or otherwise on how to go about doing everything in the best possible manner.  Any comments or tips would be greatly appreicated, thank you.  I know i have big goals, i just need a way of accomplishing them.
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Speedburner89

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Re: I'm extremely bored, want to start a league...
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2006, 04:46:54 PM »
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Re: I'm extremely bored, want to start a league...
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2006, 08:34:11 PM »
I am not a league secretary, but something about your post compelled me to respond.  Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and a passion for bowling!

There are ways to get the ball rolling for a league, but in order to make it a reality, you have to get the attention of the league coordinator or the house manager, and prove to them that it will be worth the time and effort.

Start by organizing a group to come in and practice during an open time slot, preferably a time slot that could be used for a league.  Just call a few of your close friends to come down with you, and encourage them to see if they can get one person to come with them.  If you can get a group together that regularly comes in to bowl, you can then suggest that a league be started.

After you have had a regular "practice" group for a while, ask the manager if it would be possible to get a sport shot put down for your "regular" practice bowlers.  Maybe just on 2 or 3 pairs, if not more.  Start small if you have to.  Once your group has been regularly doing this for a few weeks, it will be apparent that it may be worth it to form a league out of your group.

Offer to do some of the legwork; show up during other leagues and recruit bowlers.  Make up a flyer that allows people to turn in their personal info and bowling info (avg., USBC #, etc.) and measure the interest level.  Hand one out to every person and give them a quick rundown about what you are trying to do.  It won't work to just leave a pile of flyers at the desk, BTW.  If you can get enough flyers turned in to the center, you can have a good base of bowlers to start from.

Another simple yet effective thing I have seen is where open bowlers are invited to leave their information if they are interested in leagues.  Someone at the front desk does this when the bowling is paid for, and usually it is right after a group of people just had an enjoyable time bowling a few games.  One center I saw actually would give away 3 free games if the person at the desk did not ask if you were interested in a league.  If anyone turns in their info, have them referred to your league first!

All of these suggestions should only be implemented AFTER you have the permission of the manager or someone with authority in the center.  Tell them that you think you can round up enough people to start a new league, and if they will allow, give them some suggestions to help you.  Again, you might have to do the legwork to start with, but if you want it bad enough, it will work!  I was able to help FINALLY get a scratch league started in my center, and it was because I went around talking it up to everyone I knew.  Even some I didn't know!  You can do it!
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Re: I'm extremely bored, want to start a league...
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2006, 10:40:07 PM »
You are going to have to negotiate with the center to not only put out a Sport Compliant shot, but take tapes every week before league.  If the center does not have a tape reader, then the tapes will have to be sent in to USBC weekly.

In order to have any leverage negotiating, it would help if you have a group of yourh committed to the format.  It may cost more for league fees, due to the etra work the center will have to do.  Here is the link to Bowl.com that has the various forms for Sport Leagues

http://www.bowlingmembership.com/sportbowlingsite/section_leagues.asp

I know for adults there is an added $9.00 for Sanction Fees for Sport.  I don't know if it is less for youth or the same amount.

I hope this helps.  I admire you for taking the initiative to get this going and wish you well.
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Re: I'm extremely bored, want to start a league...
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2006, 10:53:08 PM »
John, I would LOVE to help you out but, unfortunately I am too far away to bowl there. I could mention it to a few people I know but I doubt anyone will travel that far. Good Luck and take the advice from above, sounds like very good ideas too!
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Re: I'm extremely bored, want to start a league...
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2006, 08:54:58 AM »
There is a lot of 'paperwork' involved in a league. I'd suggest you find out how many want to join you, want to start a league, no matter what the format. You need to plan a set of By Laws, a Bank Account, (making sure you cpmply with your state's non-profit laws), depending on your bank, you'll need an adult probably on the account.

There are some steps with the IRS as well, getting account as a non-profit account. The By Laws must be filed with the center, copies to the local association, minutes taken when ever you have any sort of meeting. A Board set up...there's a ton of things to do before you roll your first ball.

State laws to check, here in AZ, there are gambling laws about 50/50 tickets, side pots, might not be where you are, but I'd check those before you laid down $1.00, just to be sure. Records of every time you meet, don't forget one time you talk to the center, make notes.

That's the prep work, then it sounds like you really want to get things going, ..leg work, finding folks that want the kind of league you have in mind or come to some format you all can agree on.

Money, ...watch every dime, account for everything, the last thing you'll want is someone saying there's a dollar missing from somewhere. That'll make people run from you faster than you can imagine....in a nutshell...

paperwork, paperwork, notes, accounting, that's the thing, account for every dime and everytime you talk to anyone ...just my suggestion.
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Re: I'm extremely bored, want to start a league...
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2006, 11:42:54 AM »
Since the center would have to pay the USBC for certification of the sport league, you might have better luck just following the rules of a sport league without the certification. Make it a PBA pattern league, or a tournament pattern league.




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Re: I'm extremely bored, want to start a league...
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2006, 12:43:13 AM »
IL bowler, i'm mark not john, sorry for the confusion

tjj300, ur probably right, in the sport league being a hassle to set up, plus we don't even have a sport compliant shot in our oiler at the moment.  We can probably go with our ABT shot, which i enjoy bowling on, which in my opinion is just as difficult as just about any sport shot.  I already talked to some of my fellow youth bowlers and they said they'd be interested in putting teams together.  I work at the house i'm setting the league up at and i'm good friends with the general manager, he gave me the go for the league as long as i can get the bowlers to come.  He said he could charge us 7.50 for lineage, and we can set the amount we want going into the scholarship fund.  

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Re: I'm extremely bored, want to start a league...
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2006, 01:31:08 AM »
Mark,
You received a lot of good advice, in the above posts.
I think going with the ABT shot, that we bowled on would be tough enough for most bowlers.
The trick is getting bowlers to commit, and stay committed to a "tougher shot" league. It's a lot of work, to get a league going.

Good Luck.

PS: Are you going to make it to the BR Get Together on Sept. 9 at Beverly?

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