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That Purple Stuff
« on: September 18, 2015, 11:31:00 AM »

 

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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2015, 11:59:39 AM »
This is made to clean a bowling ball not drink.  The only thing either of these may do is irritate your skin.......and probably not enough of each in this to even do that.  I guarantee you if you looked at the other cleaners they have similar chemicals in them.  And for your simple green......it has butyl which is worse than either of the chemicals talked about in that purple stuff!
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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2015, 12:33:48 PM »
Virtually every cleaner has "toxic" chemicals in them, But it's a matter of how much.

With any cleaners exposure over time might be a problem or if your sensitive to chemicals. If your worried about it, you wear a protective glove or you don't use it.

If it's used properly, The Purple stuff is probably just as safe as any other cleaner.



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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2015, 01:04:14 PM »
Exactly.......water can be toxic at a high enough dosage!! 

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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2015, 01:24:41 PM »
do what you do...

I've been using cleaning agents for years from the house to my past/current employment. We have wipes at the hospital that have danger warnings and insists in using gloves. Yes over time without PPE you can do damage to your skin or more. Not washing hands between frames after using cleaners that's toxic and eating, it's up to you.

long story short, I have RN's, house keeping staff, other staff, and me, to name a few that have skin problems. I was too stupid to use these bowling and non bowling cleaners with bare hands for over ten years. Luckily I only have it on one hand and not both like many other I know who have skin problems on both hands. Likewise, no other skin issues on other parts of the body.

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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2015, 01:36:23 PM »
Virtually every cleaner has "toxic" chemicals in them, But it's a matter of how much.

With any cleaners exposure over time might be a problem or if your sensitive to chemicals. If your worried about it, you wear a protective glove or you don't use it.

If it's used properly, The Purple stuff is probably just as safe as any other cleaner.


Sorry, but If I know it's toxic or if I think it's toxic, I'm not using it. You can use whatever you wish; I know I'm not invulnerable.
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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2015, 02:20:16 PM »
Xrayjay.....post a link to an sds for the remedy x cleaner from valentino bowling in your sig.

charlest.....you better stop drinking tap water then because the chemicals used to treat it are toxic. 

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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2015, 02:33:06 PM »
This is made to clean a bowling ball not drink.  The only thing either of these may do is irritate your skin.......and probably not enough of each in this to even do that.  I guarantee you if you looked at the other cleaners they have similar chemicals in them.  And for your simple green......it has butyl which is worse than either of the chemicals talked about in that purple stuff!
I didn't say anything about chemicals, if you read it again I referred to the cost being reasonable.
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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2015, 02:53:19 PM »
This is made to clean a bowling ball not drink.  The only thing either of these may do is irritate your skin.......and probably not enough of each in this to even do that.  I guarantee you if you looked at the other cleaners they have similar chemicals in them.  And for your simple green......it has butyl which is worse than either of the chemicals talked about in that purple stuff!
I didn't say anything about chemicals, if you read it again I referred to the cost being reasonable.

You did and I never said anything about what you stated or the price.  I would agree that it is priced higher than most and maybe too much for me to buy.....but there is always a reason and Ron is a small business with very little buying power so his cost are higher than a larger company buying in bulk.   For the record I do not own or have I tried that purple stuff.

I just get tired of seeing ignorant blanket statements about something when in reality there is little to no truth to it.  My issue is the statements of not using it because it's toxic.  Well if you looked at every other cleaner on the market there are similar if not worse "toxic" chemicals in the mixture.  The problem is no one here knows if it is a 25% Glutaraldehyde solution with 1% total for the product or is it a 90% Glutaraldehyde solution and is 10% total for the product.  Like I said in the other post.....will they stop drinking tap water because the chemicals used to treat it are toxic?  The difference between a poison and an antidote is the dosage.........no one here knows what are in any of these bowling ball cleaners on the market because SDS's are not readily available.  Once someone post some of them will everyone stop using them because the contents individually are toxic at certain concentrations?
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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2015, 09:09:18 PM »
Let me first state I am not a chemist or a scientist, or a medical professional..  But from this discussion I have come to believe in Charlest's position.  I think we can all agree he is a man who does his homework and usually does not take a stand unless he can back it up with fact.  Most of us, if not all of us don't have a clue about the chemicals that are in the ball cleaner we use. 
I checked my cleaner of choice (Tac Up) and all I could find is it is approved by the USBC for use anytime.  The USBC I don't think has any clue if this cleaner is harmful to me or not.
I looked on the Internet ...Glutaraldehyde.  What I found was it a "kissing cousin" of Formaldehyde " which has been found to cause cancer in humans with prolonged exposure
There was apparently a control group study done regarding Glutaraldehyde and although it did not indicate it caused cancer it did state there was an increase in nasal tumors as a result of its use.
What I learned from this discussion(posts) is from this moment forward, I will clean my bowling balls while wearing a surgical mask or industrial spray mask and I will be wearing non-latex gloves.  Like I said in a previous post I may not have that many more years on the planet, but I an not going to shorten those years by being foolish.
P.S. Where is Ron Hickland on this subject as a responsible manufacturer/distributor of "The Purple Stuff" on this subject???

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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2015, 02:43:54 AM »
Xrayjay.....post a link to an sds for the remedy x cleaner from valentino bowling in your sig.

charlest.....you better stop drinking tap water then because the chemicals used to treat it are toxic. 

Why? if you're interested to know, you can look it up. If it's not available.... then here's a rule of thumb we take in the medical field. Every patient we see is contagious with a disease until r/o. we treat them with respect and put our hearts and efforts to care for them. but at the same time, we need to protect ourselves and our family. When I worked in Trauma level 1, ICU's, and around blood clean or dirty... I never wear my shoes from work home or to the bowling alley. They stay in the back of my truck in a box. Just to be safe. And with any cleaner, I just want to be on the safe side. If you see what I see in the hospitals and the risk we medical staff put ourselves into, you'd think differently. Nothing wrong about being safe. it's not being ignorant. you're thinking is actually ignorant to some extent.

Basically it's this too. It's up to the individual to do whatever he/she/shim feels like doing when handling any chemicals, or drinking from the tap. I'm just sharing my limited knowledge and what I have experienced with different liquids and the medical and non medical in-service training with chemicals from past employment. And Formaldehyde, it's used to clean reusable dialyzers and dialysis machines. That's one usage. Go into a morgue and your eyes may burn at first, it's a mix of embalming chemicals.

Ignorant? if one doesn't know the "dosage" of certain chemicals, even more to be cautious. Not full metal geared up, but have common sense. it's like washing your hands before every meal. it's that simple. and the choice is ours to make.
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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2015, 07:22:51 AM »

The deal appears to be getting the gallon jug for $70, which make the cost per ounce about .54 cents. (4oz. is then about 2.16).

So buy a
gallon jug, $70
48 4oz. spray bottles, $40

you could make 32 4oz bottles and sell them for about $6.99-$8

and turn a profit

If the owner sees your reply, guarantee that gallon price is going to increase.  :)
Now, 3 months later, the gallon jug is $120.

Both methanol and Glutaraldehyde are both toxic.
I am NOT using this stuff under any conditions.

I guess the owner is paying attention to this site?
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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2015, 09:06:28 AM »
The question was asked on the That Purple Stuff's facebook page about the "Toxic" chemicals in the product, here's the reply:

"We've had an independent chemist test our product and he didn't find it toxic. While those chemicals are harmful, they are highly deluded in our product."
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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2015, 10:28:47 AM »
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they are highly deluded

Just like many bowlers  :P

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Re: That Purple Stuff
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2015, 03:21:15 PM »
I have used it, I dont wear gloves, it never irritated my skin. The cleaner is the best I ever used and I used them all. Simply put, its the best bowling ball cleaner on the market. Maybe some industrial degreaser will work better, but remember...If its not made for bowling balls the chances are its doing more harm then good. Stick with alcohol if you want but in my opinion That Purple Stuff is the best.

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« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2015, 09:14:33 PM »
I have used it, I dont wear gloves, it never irritated my skin. The cleaner is the best I ever used and I used them all. Simply put, its the best bowling ball cleaner on the market. Maybe some industrial degreaser will work better, but remember...If its not made for bowling balls the chances are its doing more harm then good. Stick with alcohol if you want but in my opinion That Purple Stuff is the best.


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You're only seeing the short term effect, the damage it could potentially cause in the long term as is with anything, is what you should be concerned with.   Read up on both glutaraldahyde and methanol's MSDS'S on the OSHA website.
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