BallReviews
General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: JS on September 18, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
-
Anybody try this?
http://ronaldhickland.com/contact/our-services/that-purple-stuff/ (http://ronaldhickland.com/contact/our-services/that-purple-stuff/)
-
4 oz for $12.99???
Not happening.
-
You're supposed to use it after every shot too...
-
You're supposed to use it after every shot too...
That would guarantee a 900, right?
-
4 oz. for that much???? and use it after every shot????
Remedy X
-
4 oz for $12.99???
Not happening.
Agreed, a ton of money.
Usually good cleaners are 8 oz for $12.99 DELIVERED!
-
$12.99 for 4oz. is a might high, but I don't see anything that says you use it after every shot.
It just says the "cleaner lasts for about 3 games." I assume they mean by that the ball will only stay clean for 3 games.
Says it contains Methanol and Glutaraldehyde
-
Says it contains Methanol and Glutaraldehyde
Gloves gloves and more gloves..... and maybe a ventilator ... We use the G a lot in the medical field...
-
You're supposed to use it after every shot too...
That would guarantee a 900, right?
Idk I'm just quoting hickland. He said that lol
-
The deal appears to be getting the gallon jug for $70, which make the cost per ounce about .54 cents. (4oz. is then about 2.16).
So buy a
gallon jug, $70
48 4oz. spray bottles, $40
you could make 32 4oz bottles and sell them for about $6.99-$8
and turn a profit
-
The deal appears to be getting the gallon jug for $70, which make the cost per ounce about .54 cents. (4oz. is then about 2.16).
So buy a
gallon jug, $70
48 4oz. spray bottles, $40
you could make 32 4oz bottles and sell them for about $6.99-$8
and turn a profit
If the owner sees your reply, guarantee that gallon price is going to increase. :)
-
Glutaraldehyde is an organic compound with the formula CH2(CH2CHO)2. A pungent colorless oily liquid, glutaraldehyde is used to sterilize medical and dental equipment. It is also used for industrial water treatment and as a preservative.
-
The deal appears to be getting the gallon jug for $70, which make the cost per ounce about .54 cents. (4oz. is then about 2.16).
So buy a
gallon jug, $70
48 4oz. spray bottles, $40
you could make 32 4oz bottles and sell them for about $6.99-$8
and turn a profit
Now, 3 months later, the gallon jug is $120.
Both methanol and Glutaraldehyde are both toxic.
I am NOT using this stuff under any conditions.
-
Charlest,
I'm with you on this one. I might not have that many years left on this planet, but I don't plan on making it any shorter than it needs to be by messing with toxin chemicals.
Thank you for the information you provided.
-
I'll stick with my simple green and alcohol mixture, does a great job very reasonable price.
-
This is made to clean a bowling ball not drink. The only thing either of these may do is irritate your skin.......and probably not enough of each in this to even do that. I guarantee you if you looked at the other cleaners they have similar chemicals in them. And for your simple green......it has butyl which is worse than either of the chemicals talked about in that purple stuff!
-
Virtually every cleaner has "toxic" chemicals in them, But it's a matter of how much.
With any cleaners exposure over time might be a problem or if your sensitive to chemicals. If your worried about it, you wear a protective glove or you don't use it.
If it's used properly, The Purple stuff is probably just as safe as any other cleaner.
-
Exactly.......water can be toxic at a high enough dosage!!
-
do what you do...
I've been using cleaning agents for years from the house to my past/current employment. We have wipes at the hospital that have danger warnings and insists in using gloves. Yes over time without PPE you can do damage to your skin or more. Not washing hands between frames after using cleaners that's toxic and eating, it's up to you.
long story short, I have RN's, house keeping staff, other staff, and me, to name a few that have skin problems. I was too stupid to use these bowling and non bowling cleaners with bare hands for over ten years. Luckily I only have it on one hand and not both like many other I know who have skin problems on both hands. Likewise, no other skin issues on other parts of the body.
-
Virtually every cleaner has "toxic" chemicals in them, But it's a matter of how much.
With any cleaners exposure over time might be a problem or if your sensitive to chemicals. If your worried about it, you wear a protective glove or you don't use it.
If it's used properly, The Purple stuff is probably just as safe as any other cleaner.
Sorry, but If I know it's toxic or if I think it's toxic, I'm not using it. You can use whatever you wish; I know I'm not invulnerable.
-
Xrayjay.....post a link to an sds for the remedy x cleaner from valentino bowling in your sig.
charlest.....you better stop drinking tap water then because the chemicals used to treat it are toxic.
-
This is made to clean a bowling ball not drink. The only thing either of these may do is irritate your skin.......and probably not enough of each in this to even do that. I guarantee you if you looked at the other cleaners they have similar chemicals in them. And for your simple green......it has butyl which is worse than either of the chemicals talked about in that purple stuff!
I didn't say anything about chemicals, if you read it again I referred to the cost being reasonable.
-
This is made to clean a bowling ball not drink. The only thing either of these may do is irritate your skin.......and probably not enough of each in this to even do that. I guarantee you if you looked at the other cleaners they have similar chemicals in them. And for your simple green......it has butyl which is worse than either of the chemicals talked about in that purple stuff!
I didn't say anything about chemicals, if you read it again I referred to the cost being reasonable.
You did and I never said anything about what you stated or the price. I would agree that it is priced higher than most and maybe too much for me to buy.....but there is always a reason and Ron is a small business with very little buying power so his cost are higher than a larger company buying in bulk. For the record I do not own or have I tried that purple stuff.
I just get tired of seeing ignorant blanket statements about something when in reality there is little to no truth to it. My issue is the statements of not using it because it's toxic. Well if you looked at every other cleaner on the market there are similar if not worse "toxic" chemicals in the mixture. The problem is no one here knows if it is a 25% Glutaraldehyde solution with 1% total for the product or is it a 90% Glutaraldehyde solution and is 10% total for the product. Like I said in the other post.....will they stop drinking tap water because the chemicals used to treat it are toxic? The difference between a poison and an antidote is the dosage.........no one here knows what are in any of these bowling ball cleaners on the market because SDS's are not readily available. Once someone post some of them will everyone stop using them because the contents individually are toxic at certain concentrations?
-
Let me first state I am not a chemist or a scientist, or a medical professional.. But from this discussion I have come to believe in Charlest's position. I think we can all agree he is a man who does his homework and usually does not take a stand unless he can back it up with fact. Most of us, if not all of us don't have a clue about the chemicals that are in the ball cleaner we use.
I checked my cleaner of choice (Tac Up) and all I could find is it is approved by the USBC for use anytime. The USBC I don't think has any clue if this cleaner is harmful to me or not.
I looked on the Internet ...Glutaraldehyde. What I found was it a "kissing cousin" of Formaldehyde " which has been found to cause cancer in humans with prolonged exposure
There was apparently a control group study done regarding Glutaraldehyde and although it did not indicate it caused cancer it did state there was an increase in nasal tumors as a result of its use.
What I learned from this discussion(posts) is from this moment forward, I will clean my bowling balls while wearing a surgical mask or industrial spray mask and I will be wearing non-latex gloves. Like I said in a previous post I may not have that many more years on the planet, but I an not going to shorten those years by being foolish.
P.S. Where is Ron Hickland on this subject as a responsible manufacturer/distributor of "The Purple Stuff" on this subject???
-
Xrayjay.....post a link to an sds for the remedy x cleaner from valentino bowling in your sig.
charlest.....you better stop drinking tap water then because the chemicals used to treat it are toxic.
Why? if you're interested to know, you can look it up. If it's not available.... then here's a rule of thumb we take in the medical field. Every patient we see is contagious with a disease until r/o. we treat them with respect and put our hearts and efforts to care for them. but at the same time, we need to protect ourselves and our family. When I worked in Trauma level 1, ICU's, and around blood clean or dirty... I never wear my shoes from work home or to the bowling alley. They stay in the back of my truck in a box. Just to be safe. And with any cleaner, I just want to be on the safe side. If you see what I see in the hospitals and the risk we medical staff put ourselves into, you'd think differently. Nothing wrong about being safe. it's not being ignorant. you're thinking is actually ignorant to some extent.
Basically it's this too. It's up to the individual to do whatever he/she/shim feels like doing when handling any chemicals, or drinking from the tap. I'm just sharing my limited knowledge and what I have experienced with different liquids and the medical and non medical in-service training with chemicals from past employment. And Formaldehyde, it's used to clean reusable dialyzers and dialysis machines. That's one usage. Go into a morgue and your eyes may burn at first, it's a mix of embalming chemicals.
Ignorant? if one doesn't know the "dosage" of certain chemicals, even more to be cautious. Not full metal geared up, but have common sense. it's like washing your hands before every meal. it's that simple. and the choice is ours to make.
-
The deal appears to be getting the gallon jug for $70, which make the cost per ounce about .54 cents. (4oz. is then about 2.16).
So buy a
gallon jug, $70
48 4oz. spray bottles, $40
you could make 32 4oz bottles and sell them for about $6.99-$8
and turn a profit
If the owner sees your reply, guarantee that gallon price is going to increase. :)
Now, 3 months later, the gallon jug is $120.
Both methanol and Glutaraldehyde are both toxic.
I am NOT using this stuff under any conditions.
I guess the owner is paying attention to this site?
-
The question was asked on the That Purple Stuff's facebook page about the "Toxic" chemicals in the product, here's the reply:
"We've had an independent chemist test our product and he didn't find it toxic. While those chemicals are harmful, they are highly deluded in our product."
-
they are highly deluded
Just like many bowlers :P
-
I have used it, I dont wear gloves, it never irritated my skin. The cleaner is the best I ever used and I used them all. Simply put, its the best bowling ball cleaner on the market. Maybe some industrial degreaser will work better, but remember...If its not made for bowling balls the chances are its doing more harm then good. Stick with alcohol if you want but in my opinion That Purple Stuff is the best.
-
I have used it, I dont wear gloves, it never irritated my skin. The cleaner is the best I ever used and I used them all. Simply put, its the best bowling ball cleaner on the market. Maybe some industrial degreaser will work better, but remember...If its not made for bowling balls the chances are its doing more harm then good. Stick with alcohol if you want but in my opinion That Purple Stuff is the best.
=============================================================
You're only seeing the short term effect, the damage it could potentially cause in the long term as is with anything, is what you should be concerned with. Read up on both glutaraldahyde and methanol's MSDS'S on the OSHA website.
-
What sort of ratio do you use on the Simple Green-alcohol mixture?
-
Here is a explanation on That Purple Stuff.
http://ronaldhickland.com/what-in-the-world-is-that-purple-stuff/
-
Here is a explanation on That Purple Stuff.
http://ronaldhickland.com/what-in-the-world-is-that-purple-stuff/
Ron,
Can you explain if TPS is perfectly OK to use long term without health hazard? Is there an MSDS sheet for TPS? There has been some discussion about this and as bowlers and end users we'd like to know straight from the manufacturer.
-
Use as directed without long term health effects.
-
Ron
What scientific facts can you point to that support your statement?
-
The chemicals used in our products you have likely been exposed to most of your life. We have a Chemist on staff that helped develop the formula to make it safe for long term use when used as directed. If you are interested in trying the product check us out at ctdbowling.com. If not, then please use an approved cleaner by USBC and keep your bowling ball clean. Speaking of health hazzards check out the non approved cleaner list and then do a google search.
Thanks for the question
-
Just dont drink it and you'll be fine.
-
I don't understand. There are so many bowling ball cleaners out there and this is the first one with so much scrutiny. Why is that?
-
The bar was set incredibly high. Scrutiny invited.
-
I don't understand. There are so many bowling ball cleaners out there and this is the first one with so much scrutiny. Why is that?
I'm not sure which came first....but it prolly started with either
The price or the chemical make up. Or it's the other way around??
For me personally, I'm all for these types of things that surrounds bowling, but at the current price range, TPS is pretty steep.
-
If That Purple Stuff is more expensive then other cleaners, BUT your ball lasts longer because you use it.....Doesnt that make it cheaper then the other products? The way I see it, I dont have to buy a $160.00 ball as often because they're losing reaction.
I can stay with a ball a lot longer and that saves me money!
-
If That Purple Stuff is more expensive then other cleaners, BUT your ball lasts longer because you use it.....Doesnt that make it cheaper then the other products? The way I see it, I dont have to buy a $160.00 ball as often because they're losing reaction.
I can stay with a ball a lot longer and that saves me money!
At this point, nobody knows if TPS is really superior to competing aggressive cleaners. Frankly, the video tests that have published are weak. Charlest did his own comparison in one of these threads, and TPS didn't come out on top in his test.
Given what we know now, You really can't conclude that your ball lasts longer using TPS than it would using other alternatives.
-
If That Purple Stuff is more expensive then other cleaners, BUT your ball lasts longer because you use it.....Doesnt that make it cheaper then the other products? The way I see it, I dont have to buy a $160.00 ball as often because they're losing reaction.
I can stay with a ball a lot longer and that saves me money!
As far as I can tell, you can use Remedy, Vise cleaner, Knock-out, and Zapp-it and get the same or better results for cheaper. Or you can use LMB cleaner, Hook-It or Clean n Dull and get better results cheaper.
-
All I can say is that I maintain all of my stuff and I had loss of reaction on high end balls after 50 games. I been using TPS and have over 80 games and have zero loss of reaction on any balls since using it.
-
All I can say is that I maintain all of my stuff and I had loss of reaction on high end balls after 50 games. I been using TPS and have over 80 games and have zero loss of reaction on any balls since using it.
What were you using before TPS?
-
All I can say is that I maintain all of my stuff and I had loss of reaction on high end balls after 50 games. I been using TPS and have over 80 games and have zero loss of reaction on any balls since using it.
If you're happy with the results, I would never say you must use what I like. I just posted what I thought about the price and its effectiveness vs. others, since this was/is a discussion.
-
Before using TPS I used, clean n dull, adrenaline wipes, knockout, the motiv cleaners, alcohol, pretty much everything over the past 17 years. I'm not telling anyone to buy it, just telling my experience with it.
-
Here are both parts of the independent review on That Purple Stuff.
Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTFU0g5MPCs
Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbQMMIoeGNw
-
I have tried TPS. It seems like a decent cleaner, but I don't think that I can handle that perfume smell. I think I would rather smell harsh chemicals. I honestly don't think I will be doing a thorough test because I won't be using this product because of the smell. I cleaned a ball with it before bowling and the smell was stuck in my nose all night long during league.
-
I have tried TPS. It seems like a decent cleaner, but I don't think that I can handle that perfume smell. I think I would rather smell harsh chemicals. I honestly don't think I will be doing a thorough test because I won't be using this product because of the smell. I cleaned a ball with it before bowling and the smell was stuck in my nose all night long during league.
I agree about the smell, aroma. I posted this summary in this thread:
http://www.ballreviews.com/miscellaneous/using-a-clean-ball-the-new-way-to-cheat-or-excuse-t309961.0.html (http://www.ballreviews.com/miscellaneous/using-a-clean-ball-the-new-way-to-cheat-or-excuse-t309961.0.html):
"I tried it today, using that procedure, a little on the center of my towel and wiped the ball each time I picked up a ball to bowl, during a practice session. It did no better than any other good water based cleaner. The oil lines remained on it. Only the micro-fiber towel helped remove the oil laying on the surface. I need my LMB cleaner after bowling to truly remove the ground in oil lines. I even tried rubbing the track vigorously with the towel soaked with TPS, with the ball in my lap. I rubbed hard for a full minute on each section and the oil lines just stayed there. LMB neatly removed them.
Oh, beware of the smell of TPS, it is intense and they seem to use a women's perfume/cologne/toilet water to hide any bad aromas from the cleaning chemicals in TPS. It is very strong."
-
What's wrong with good old denatured ethyl alcohol? 12.99 a gallon at Lowes.
I have never had anything work as well as that. It is the active ingredient in several ball cleaning solutions.
-
What's wrong with good old denatured ethyl alcohol? 12.99 a gallon at Lowes.
I have never had anything work as well as that. It is the active ingredient in several ball cleaning solutions.
Then you've never tried
Neo-Tac's Hook-It,
http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-4835-neo-tac-hook-it-32-oz.aspx (http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-4835-neo-tac-hook-it-32-oz.aspx)
or
LMB Int'l High Performance ball cleaner,
http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-779-lmb-international-high-performance-bowling-ball-cleaner-32oz.aspx (http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-779-lmb-international-high-performance-bowling-ball-cleaner-32oz.aspx)
or
Clean n' Dull,
http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-1031-powerhouse-clean-n-dull-5-oz.aspx (http://www.buddiesproshop.com/p-1031-powerhouse-clean-n-dull-5-oz.aspx)
-
I've tried it. Had a bottle in the shop and let others try it during league. I wasn't impressed. None of my customers were either. I have used all the anytime use cleaners and TPS did nothing to separate itself from any of them. It is ok, but not something I would exclusively use. I prefer DV8's Damn Good Hook or Neo Tac Hook It after every league set. For me, and my customers, I will pass on this one.
-
I have tried TPS. It seems like a decent cleaner, but I don't think that I can handle that perfume smell. I think I would rather smell harsh chemicals. I honestly don't think I will be doing a thorough test because I won't be using this product because of the smell. I cleaned a ball with it before bowling and the smell was stuck in my nose all night long during league.
I agree about the smell, aroma. I posted this summary in this thread:
http://www.ballreviews.com/miscellaneous/using-a-clean-ball-the-new-way-to-cheat-or-excuse-t309961.0.html (http://www.ballreviews.com/miscellaneous/using-a-clean-ball-the-new-way-to-cheat-or-excuse-t309961.0.html):
"I tried it today, using that procedure, a little on the center of my towel and wiped the ball each time I picked up a ball to bowl, during a practice session. It did no better than any other good water based cleaner. The oil lines remained on it. Only the micro-fiber towel helped remove the oil laying on the surface. I need my LMB cleaner after bowling to truly remove the ground in oil lines. I even tried rubbing the track vigorously with the towel soaked with TPS, with the ball in my lap. I rubbed hard for a full minute on each section and the oil lines just stayed there. LMB neatly removed them.
Oh, beware of the smell of TPS, it is intense and they seem to use a women's perfume/cologne/toilet water to hide any bad aromas from the cleaning chemicals in TPS. It is very strong."
+1 FOR LMB!
-
I've tried it. Had a bottle in the shop and let others try it during league. I wasn't impressed. None of my customers were either. I have used all the anytime use cleaners and TPS did nothing to separate itself from any of them. It is ok, but not something I would exclusively use. I prefer DV8's Damn Good Hook or Neo Tac Hook It after every league set. For me, and my customers, I will pass on this one.
+1
-
So what cleaner is the best? Lmb?
-
So what cleaner is the best? Lmb?
I've been using the Lane Masters cleaners since I can remember. Personally, I don't think anything can top it.
-
Hook it IMO
-
Hook it IMO
FWIW I am more cautious about using Hook-It to clean balls, although I have used it and I still have a large bottle of it. It seems to work as well as C&D and LMB cleaner, but it has an oily feeling to it. I don't like using oil-like liquids on my bowling balls. I just worry a bit, about using it on the balls and getting it on my hands. I feel safer with LMB because it's alcohol based, as far as I know.
-
I must say neo tac hook it is a very impressive cleaner. Imo probably the best.
-
I must say neo tac hook it is a very impressive cleaner. Imo probably the best.
I haven't tried LMB, but it's hard to imagine a more effective cleaner than Hook-It.
Like charlest, I have concerns about the chemical makeup of Hook-It. I've used it for serval years, but I have concerns about the formulation on my hands. I'm using just Vise cleaner and Remedy now because they feel safer. I'll live with the fact they might be a little less effective than Hook-It. They're certainly good enough.
-
I must say neo tac hook it is a very impressive cleaner. Imo probably the best.
I haven't tried LMB, but it's hard to imagine a more effective cleaner than Hook-It.
Like charlest, I have concerns about the chemical makeup of Hook-It. I've used it for serval years, but I have concerns about the formulation on my hands. I'm using just Vise cleaner and Remedy now because they feel safer. I'll live with the fact they might be a little less effective than Hook-It. They're certainly good enough.
If you like Remedy, you should try the Foam version next time you order. It's amazing how it just sits in place. Somehow it makes good stuff even better because the watery spray version like all of them runs off so quickly. The foam seems to make it work better. I don't believe it costs more money.
-
I must say neo tac hook it is a very impressive cleaner. Imo probably the best.
I haven't tried LMB, but it's hard to imagine a more effective cleaner than Hook-It.
Like charlest, I have concerns about the chemical makeup of Hook-It. I've used it for serval years, but I have concerns about the formulation on my hands. I'm using just Vise cleaner and Remedy now because they feel safer. I'll live with the fact they might be a little less effective than Hook-It. They're certainly good enough.
I agree totally! PPE when I use Hook-It or C&D plus I have cautioned others to do the same. Being a clubmaker/fitter I have been around acetone for years and years PPE is must!
Using Remedy RX for a number of years next time will be using their foam version and/or LMB.
-
I must say neo tac hook it is a very impressive cleaner. Imo probably the best.
I haven't tried LMB, but it's hard to imagine a more effective cleaner than Hook-It.
Like charlest, I have concerns about the chemical makeup of Hook-It. I've used it for serval years, but I have concerns about the formulation on my hands. I'm using just Vise cleaner and Remedy now because they feel safer. I'll live with the fact they might be a little less effective than Hook-It. They're certainly good enough.
I agree totally! PPE when I use Hook-It or C&D plus I have cautioned others to do the same. Being a clubmaker/fitter I have been around acetone for years and years PPE is must!
Using Remedy RX for a number of years next time will be using their foam version and/or LMB.
FYI PPE = Personal Protective Equipment. :)
-
FYI PPE = Personal Protective Equipment. :)
Yes Sir! I assume too much sometimes that folks will know work place abbreviations. ie. MSDS sheets on products which BTW I would like to see on ALL ball cleaners. (MSDS=Material Safety Data Sheet)
-
Everybody has their own favorites, I just ordered more of That Purple Stuff. One bottle of the foam and one of the regular bottle.
-
If you like Remedy, you should try the Foam version next time you order. It's amazing how it just sits in place. Somehow it makes good stuff even better because the watery spray version like all of them runs off so quickly. The foam seems to make it work better. I don't believe it costs more money.
They threw in an 8oz bottle of Remedy Foam with one of my orders last year. I haven't opened it yet, but this reminds me to give it a try. Thx.
-
"Yes Sir! I assume too much sometimes that folks will know work place abbreviations. ie. MSDS sheets on products which BTW I would like to see on ALL ball cleaners. (MSDS=Material Safety Data Sheet)"
You can request a MSDS from the manufacturer and, by law, they have to provide it. In my previous career as a technical manager at a pulp and paper mill we were required to maintain books of MSDS's for access by employees. It contained hundreds of sheets, from as innocuous as White Out to as dangerous as chlorine. -- JohnP
-
https://youtu.be/JTFU0g5MPCs
-
anyone ever use Hook it gel?
-
anyone ever use Hook it gel?
Never heard of the "Gel" version. I went to the Neotac website, and did a general search online, and couldn't find any reference to Gel. Please provide a link.
-
Never heard of the "Gel" version. I went to the Neotac website, and did a general search online, and couldn't find any reference to Gel. Please provide a link.
I seen this come up once before, There were two different versions of Hook-it at one time The Hook-it Liquid and a Hook-it Gel.
The Hook-it gel (which could be found on ebay at one time and is old/new product) was a old formulation (cinnamon smell), The Hook-it Liquid was the more popular one.
-
anyone ever use Hook it gel?
I got some from Ebay, by accident, as I didn't know it was a gel. Seems to work like the regular stuff. Just as good. It's harder to work with; I just mash some into a towel and use the wet area to wipe the ball's surface.
-
I bought 2 quarts of gel and 10 bottles of liquid off of ebay a couple years ago. the gel is a red color and has that Hook-it scent. The liquid is yellow. The liquid is not very effective, but that gel removes belt marks instantly. The only downside with the gel is that it tends to stay in any engraving on the ball. That's where the toothbrush and simple green come into play.
-
I bought 2 quarts of gel and 10 bottles of liquid off of ebay a couple years ago. the gel is a red color and has that Hook-it scent. The liquid is yellow. The liquid is not very effective, but that gel removes belt marks instantly. The only downside with the gel is that it tends to stay in any engraving on the ball. That's where the toothbrush and simple green come into play.
My "normal" Hook-it liquid is quite red, like my gel.
If yours is yellow, I wonder what it really is or if there was an older yellow version.
-
Renew-It is yellow. Maybe?
-
My "normal" Hook-it liquid is quite red, like my gel.
If yours is yellow, I wonder what it really is or if there was an older yellow version.
The original was red/pink colored and to me it smelled like a urinal cake.
But I had some of the Brunswick branded Hook-it and it was kind of yellow colored and didn't quite smell the same as the Original. I assumed they had changed the formula.
-
I had previously used Hook-It liquid with great success. The stuff that I have, is in the same pin shaped bottle with the green Neo-Tac label. The liquid is yellow (maybe old)? it seems to clean OK...but not like the red stuff.
I guess you can't expect much for $2.00 a bottle.
-
I know I'm a bit late and the forum is steering away from talking about TPS... But if you're paying about $12.99 for a 4oz bottle of cleaner... It better be the best thing the world has seen. He says it helps restore tackiness and back-end reaction during bowling. I would personally rather buy a Shammy, helps remove alot more oil between shots, slows down how quickly lane shine happens and feels tackier after wiping it. Best part about it is it is a life-time invvestment
-
I know I'm a bit late and the forum is steering away from talking about TPS... But if you're paying about $12.99 for a 4oz bottle of cleaner... It better be the best thing the world has seen. He says it helps restore tackiness and back-end reaction during bowling. I would personally rather buy a Shammy, helps remove alot more oil between shots, slows down how quickly lane shine happens and feels tackier after wiping it. Best part about it is it is a life-time invvestment
+1