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JPbowling151

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The difference in urethane classics of the 80's
« on: August 07, 2013, 03:37:35 PM »
To my understanding the majority of the early urethane bowling balls of the 1980's utilized 3- piece pancake weight blocks with the exception to the Faball Hammer line of balls which used a 2-piece grenade looking weight block.

My question here is what was the major difference between high end urethane balls other than the manufacturer or color? For example, the AMF Black Angle vs Columbia 300 Black U Dot, or Brunswick Black Rhino?

On a side note if 2 piece balls hit and reacted that much better than 3 piece balls, why didn't all the other manufacturers follow Faball's lead sooner?

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Re: The difference in urethane classics of the 80's
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2015, 09:51:20 AM »
Just watched the '92 AC-Delco match.  Mark McDowell was wearing a shirt with the Brunswick logo, yet he was throwing the Xcalibur. In the '92 True Value Open Bruce Hamilton was wearing a shirt with the Ebonite Nitro logo, yet he was throwing the Xcalibur.  Interesting!

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Re: The difference in urethane classics of the 80's
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2015, 12:58:37 PM »
Just watched the '92 AC-Delco match.  Mark McDowell was wearing a shirt with the Brunswick logo, yet he was throwing the Xcalibur. In the '92 True Value Open Bruce Hamilton was wearing a shirt with the Ebonite Nitro logo, yet he was throwing the Xcalibur.  Interesting!

Keep in mind that back then we didn't have as heavy a corporate branding as we do now. IIRC, in the '93 Wichita Open, Ozio was contracted to a company, but wasn't wearing a shirt with that company's logo on it. Aulby was, and was a Brunswick guy both before then and up to now.

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Re: The difference in urethane classics of the 80's
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2015, 01:22:58 PM »
 A couple of points on those early urethane balls.  While everyone except Faball was still using 3 piece construction, there were other differences in the weight blocks.  Also their was some difference in the shells.  The Hammer, in addition to having a two piece core also had an apparently much softer shell that flattened very quickly.  Brunswicks Edge had a different weight block than Columbia.  The biggest difference in performance did come from shell prep however.

Ultimately everyone did go to 2 piece cores, but the initial advantage of the two piece ball was not significant enough that everyone went out and tried to introduce one.  The Wine and Black U Dots even with 3 piece construction were as  popular as the Hammers. 

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Re: The difference in urethane classics of the 80's
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2021, 01:16:04 AM »
I am a Classic 1940's Style Full Roller.

My Nationals Team Captain, who is also one of the top PSO's in the country, recommended I find a vintage Columbia Black U-Dot. He felt with my old school style of release, slow ball speed, zero tilt and 90 degree axis rotation, that only a vintage ball would provide the control and uniformity that I would need to score well on over/under house shots.

I finally found a 14lb mint U-Dot and had it drilled up.

The layout my PSO created for me on this pancake weight block ball was unique.

He told me to put the CG 2 1/4" past my pap. This layout is only now possible due to the recent change by the USBC that allows 3 oz of imbalance on any side of the ball.

This pin past pap layout makes the ball have a lot of bottom weight. The result is this pancake weight block vintage ball will slide clean up the lane then flip over and roll hard and heavy in the back. It hits very hard and is continuous, much more so then it was back in the day since this new layout allows it to have dynamics it could not have back then.

Check me out throwing the Black U-Dot: https://youtu.be/pV0Fv9jzCFM

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Re: The difference in urethane classics of the 80's
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2021, 10:37:04 AM »
Check me out throwing the Black U-Dot: https://youtu.be/pV0Fv9jzCFM

Thanks for posting that video.  I'm local to Surf Bowl and can't wait for it to open back up!!!
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