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10 In The Pit

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The Dreaded Pocket 7-10 Split
« on: April 09, 2005, 12:59:08 AM »
Is it just the house that I bowl in, or are others seeing a major increase in pocket 7-10 splits?  I know that this leave has become known as the house curse where I bowl, and they always seem to come on the best shots of the night!  And, it almost seems like the higher the average that you carry there, the more solid pocket 7-10 splits you leave.  I know that I have left 3 of them in one set on 6 different occasions in this particular house....and I've left them on consecutive frames, as well as consecutive frames on the same lane.  The better you hit the pocket, the more prone you are to see the 7-10 looking back at you.

 

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Re: The Dreaded Pocket 7-10 Split
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2005, 07:32:11 PM »
Not too many lately.  I've had pretty good luck sawing out the 7 or getting a messenger for the 10.  I've only seen an average amount, so maybe your lanes are having a problem with carrydown.  A bad pinsetter would contribute, but the whole house is unlikely to have bad racks.

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Re: The Dreaded Pocket 7-10 Split
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2005, 10:25:56 PM »
Yes, this synthetic house currently runs 42 feet, with a flood in the middle and nothing dry enough outside to get a good bite on.  If the ball comes in a little late in the pocket, you can see the 7-10 before the ball ever hits the rack.  I've had to tighten down my line and play closer to high flush to keep from leaving as many of them.  But, I'm not alone in leaving them in this particular house....it seems like everyone leaves them.  On the higher average leagues, you see them everywhere.  Of course, if I get just a tad too high flush, the 4-9 is just waiting to bite me!

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Re: The Dreaded Pocket 7-10 Split
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2005, 08:27:56 AM »
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Yes, this synthetic house currently runs 42 feet, with a flood in the middle and nothing dry enough outside to get a good bite on.  If the ball comes in a little late in the pocket, you can see the 7-10 before the ball ever hits the rack.  I've had to tighten down my line and play closer to high flush to keep from leaving as many of them.  But, I'm not alone in leaving them in this particular house....it seems like everyone leaves them.  On the higher average leagues, you see them everywhere.  Of course, if I get just a tad too high flush, the 4-9 is just waiting to bite me!


10ITP, is this a new house that you are in?  I vaguely remember that when you used to visit us here that you were having similar carry issues.  I don't recall, though, if it was plaguing everyone.  

Another thought...how heavy are the pins in use and how new are they?  If they are using light wood, it could also be an issue of the birddogs not being willing to hunt.  I don't see that problem as much with heavier wood.  Unfortunately, it seems like many houses spec new pins out to arrive on the light end of the permissible range...

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Re: The Dreaded Pocket 7-10 Split
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2005, 08:44:58 AM »
Left my first pocket 7-10 in league this past Monday night. The last one previous to this was in my first tournament of the year in Shelburne, VT, second game with a Barrage screaming from the end of the pattern too late down the lane.

Unfortunately this past Monday night the 7-10 occurred in frame 9, game 3 when I was trying to gain my first 800 series....oh well, 778 it was that night.

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Re: The Dreaded Pocket 7-10 Split
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2005, 11:14:58 PM »
Yes Michelle, I'm still bowling in the same house where I used to have all of the carry problems.  Recently the owner/manager was discussing corner pin carry problems with some of the oil manufacturers, and they recommended to him that he shorten up the oil pattern a couple of feet to help with corner pin carry.  He's considering backing up to 40 feet....I need all the backend help that I can get in this particular house!