I facepalmed so hard on the last page I broke my nose and shattered an orbital bone.

If you can't understand that a 6 year old boy can throw his fathers 15lb bowling ball down a lane two handed, but can't traditionally, than there is no getting you to see logic.

Instead of calling it a "cheat code" that has your panties in a bunch how's this:

the "allow my 6 year old kid to throw a 15lb ball down the lane because I don't want to walk over to the ball rack and get a 6 lb ball, and teach him the proper way to actually bowl" code.

Walter Ray throws two handed later in blocks, cause why???

Use some "un"common sense man.

Keep drinking the kool-aid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdyH5GZvpZ4

And no, that ball is not 15 pounds.  I just find it amazing that someone would complain about a method to throw the ball for those who may not be able to throw it "traditionally".  I guess people without thumbs need not apply to your version of bowling.

So an entire industry must conform so a person in your analogy, without a thumb, wants to bowl? How many thumbless people want to bowl? Maybe we need to tap in to this market to help build numbers while we promote two handed bowling. I think we are missing a market here.

I know he wasn't throwing a 15lb ball in the video, because he's 3 years old using all his body weight to use an entirely too heavy object for his frame and age. Just asking for trouble.



Or better yet, I want to golf with the belly putters on tour. Makes me happy, and I find it fun. I should be able to do that. Kill joys for those that want to take that away.

Bring the factual statistics of how the (as DP3 said) the .00025% of outlier bowlers who bowl two handed, is SAVING the game??

I'm all ears. Change my mind with FACTS and statistics, and NOT feelings.

Go...........



Total USBC participation, down.

Total USBC youth participants, down (although the USBC likes to point to junior gold as a sign of up tick, but doesn't represent true across the country, league participation).

Bowling centers closing at an alarming rate.

And this is the fault of a delivery? Or grouchy old plebs making the bowling alley experience miserable AF from the moment you put your shoes on?

Are you even capable of posting anything but hyporbole?

Fact of the matter is no one can provide facts stating what is the single cause of the decline of league participation.  I can't show how two-handers are saving the game and you can't show how they are ruining the game. 

And as has been stated several times on this site USBC doesn't really care about the local league scene.  They don't care if the junior program at the local privately owned center has 20 kids or 100 kids.  What they care about is the sport as seen through their rose colored glasses.  And in that world, junior participation is up.  More kids are seeing bowling as competition at a high level than ever before.  Parents don't see bowling as a day care for their kids on Saturday anymore, which is what a majority of junior programs were seen as.

I'm sorry a two-hander took your lunch money, or took your place in the local Hall of Fame or perhaps pushed the last quarter at the senior league and now you don't have coffee money.  I don't know why you have such a disdain for a delivery method that is different.  I bet you throw a full-roller also, those damn 3/4 guys are ruining everything.

Fact of the matter is no one can provide facts stating what is the single cause of the decline of league participation.  I can't show how two-handers are saving the game and you can't show how they are ruining the game. 

And as has been stated several times on this site USBC doesn't really care about the local league scene.  They don't care if the junior program at the local privately owned center has 20 kids or 100 kids.  What they care about is the sport as seen through their rose colored glasses.  And in that world, junior participation is up.  More kids are seeing bowling as competition at a high level than ever before.  Parents don't see bowling as a day care for their kids on Saturday anymore, which is what a majority of junior programs were seen as.

I'm sorry a two-hander took your lunch money, or took your place in the local Hall of Fame or perhaps pushed the last quarter at the senior league and now you don't have coffee money.  I don't know why you have such a disdain for a delivery method that is different.  I bet you throw a full-roller also, those damn 3/4 guys are ruining everything.

Most of what you posted here is the best argument yet for bowling in unsanctioned leagues and tournaments. USBC can't operate without us league house hacks "funding" them though USBC yearly dues. And the USBC Open has become more and more of a feeding trough for the type of bowler that 95% of us will never be.

We need to either remove the shit at the top, namely Chad Murphy and replace the board with regular Joe bowlers or punt and find something else to do on Thursday nights.

Fact of the matter is no one can provide facts stating what is the single cause of the decline of league participation.  I can't show how two-handers are saving the game and you can't show how they are ruining the game. 

And as has been stated several times on this site USBC doesn't really care about the local league scene.  They don't care if the junior program at the local privately owned center has 20 kids or 100 kids.  What they care about is the sport as seen through their rose colored glasses.  And in that world, junior participation is up.  More kids are seeing bowling as competition at a high level than ever before.  Parents don't see bowling as a day care for their kids on Saturday anymore, which is what a majority of junior programs were seen as.

I'm sorry a two-hander took your lunch money, or took your place in the local Hall of Fame or perhaps pushed the last quarter at the senior league and now you don't have coffee money.  I don't know why you have such a disdain for a delivery method that is different.  I bet you throw a full-roller also, those damn 3/4 guys are ruining everything.

The HOF thing - check. Some other impressive accomplishments - check.  Giving a da mn about the future of this sport - unfortunately.