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lilpossum1

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Holy deflection Batman
« on: October 08, 2014, 06:22:48 PM »
A few weeks ago, I encountered a lane condition where I could get no drive no matter what ball I threw. I watched my Mastermind bounce off the headpin. Did I just have ridiculous carry down causing this, or could there have been another cause? How do you counter this? As the night moved on, the shot got better. By third game, I started to be able to carry in the pocket, and the practice games on that set had the first good scores of the night on those lanes.
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cheech

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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2014, 07:55:31 PM »
thats what it sounds like to me. or the heads were burned up with carrydown.
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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2014, 10:26:07 PM »
I agree with cheech- probably some nasty carrydown.  It sounds similar to a pattern I faced when I had my VG Nano solid a while back where the first game was absolutely brutal.    Eventually the shot got better as the night went on.
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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2014, 09:25:03 AM »
While it could be carrydown (Have to an awful lot of it to affect a ball as strong as the Mastermind), I wonder if they might not have stripped the backends on your pair, by accident, when they oiled them??
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lilpossum1

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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2014, 10:25:48 AM »
It is an old 8 lane wood house. They are oiled and stripped by hand. They weren't accidentally stripped :P this is a Sunday night league. The lanes are completely stripped on Tuesdays, and the backends are stripped on Thursdays. Oil is squirted on top of the existing shot the rest of the time. Yay squirt bottle and mop
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Jorge300

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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2014, 10:52:06 AM »
I have seen something like this on a couple of occassions. We had a summer Sports Shot league. We were supposed to be bowling on a Kegel challenge pattern. Well either the mechanic screwed up the settings, or the machine malfunctioned, but we got a biblical flood of oil put out to about 44 feet. The only person whose ball even wrinkled was the one two-hander that bowled in the league. The answer was to point the ball of the corner. I used a ball with some surface to try and get a roll going quickly when it hit the dry at the back. I wound up going plus for the night, one of only 4 people to do so. If the ball won't create entry angle with hook, do it yourself by moving right and pointing towards the pocket.
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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2014, 12:06:58 PM »
Quote from: lilpossum1 on October 09, 2014, 10:25:48 AM
It is an old 8 lane wood house. They are oiled and stripped by hand. They weren't accidentally stripped :P this is a Sunday night league. The lanes are completely stripped on Tuesdays, and the backends are stripped on Thursdays. Oil is squirted on top of the existing shot the rest of the time. Yay squirt bottle and mop

Sorry. I meant your pair accidentally did not have their backends stripped. This is especially possible since they are all done by hand.

Whatever the cause, I hope it doesn't happen again.
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lilpossum1

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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2014, 02:58:56 PM »
The funny part is I could get the mastermind to hook, but it deflected a lot in the pocket
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avabob

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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2014, 03:16:34 PM »
If the ball was hooking, you were getting total burnout.  Deflection will be worst at either extreme of total skid, or total rollout. 
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Jorge300

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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2014, 04:18:27 PM »
I am at the higher end ball speed wise, so I tend to go to pointing the ball in on these conditons, either way. If it was burning up early, maybe something with less surface might work better. Just have to experiment and see during practice. You still have some deflection, but it minimizes it greatly. JMHO
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Re: Holy deflection Batman
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2014, 11:55:53 AM »
Friction with modern balls is so high on the dry that even good ball speed and less surface will often not combat burnout on shorter or broken down conditions. 
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