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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: xrayjay on September 16, 2017, 09:58:54 PM

Title: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: xrayjay on September 16, 2017, 09:58:54 PM
I crack thumb holes on spare balls on the regular. Just found a cracking around the thumb hole on my spare.... I'm thinking of going no slug... I use IT THUMBS... but keep a slug for the spare ball..

Bad idea or not?

Ever two years I get a new spare ball...
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: ignitebowling on September 16, 2017, 10:08:56 PM
Ive not used thumb inserts for two years now and it's been great. My thumb systems is a 15/16" thumb hole with 2 pieces of tape at 2 o'clock  and then 3-4 pieces of tape at 7 o'clock. Creates a perfect oval and fit for my thumb on all my equipment including plastic.
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: xrayjay on September 16, 2017, 10:17:04 PM
Ive not used thumb inserts for two years now and it's been great. My thumb systems is a 15/16" thumb hole with 2 pieces of tape at 2 o'clock  and then 3-4 pieces of tape at 7 o'clock. Creates a perfect oval and fit for my thumb on all my equipment including plastic.

Do you use slugs/IT on your other balls?
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on September 17, 2017, 03:57:00 AM

I quit buying polyester spare balls because I've seen too many of them develop cracks around the thumb area.  I think it's because they are harder, and thus can get brittle over time. 
I have used a urethane groove for at least the past 10 years and it's as close to indestructible as there is. 
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: luv2C10falll on September 17, 2017, 05:51:53 AM
Just fix the cracking around the hole ,minor issue.Ive done my spare balls a few times because I roll it over the thumb when I shoot spares, plus I  have fixed a hand full of other bowlers that track over the thumb on spares. We all have IT thumbs and I can fix it without plugging the whole thumb hole
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: dmonroe814 on September 17, 2017, 08:15:37 AM
I agree with notClay about using urethane for spare balls, but I prefer the Storm Mix (Hybrid polyester/urethane). Also very indestructible, but skids like a polyester.  I went from Switch grips to slugs on my strike balls.  The cover expands and contracts at a different rate than the core/filler, so it sometimes leaves a ridge that can cause problems on my release, so I always use a slug.   On a side note, I like to take 3 strike balls when I fly, so I learned how to throw my strike ball straight, eliminating the need for spare balls.
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: luv2C10falll on September 17, 2017, 08:56:55 AM
Wish I could get my wrist to lay flat enough to do that. Plastic goes where I go
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: dmonroe814 on September 17, 2017, 09:14:44 AM
Wish I could get my wrist to lay flat enough to do that. Plastic goes where I go
I learned it by trying to throw a backup ball at the 10 pin.  My wrist flops back and the ball goes straight.  Key is taking the fingers out of the ball and rolling up the back without turning the balls.
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: xrayjay on September 17, 2017, 01:11:03 PM
I use the XXXL Lane 1 and only on my 10 do I throw/roll end over end. I used to roll
end over end in all my spare leaves, but I bust out the thumb hole by end of the season or two. It's my second season with this XXXL....

I may just use my tropical breeze soon..
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: Steven on September 17, 2017, 06:23:40 PM
I agree with notClay about using urethane for spare balls, but I prefer the Storm Mix (Hybrid polyester/urethane). Also very indestructible, but skids like a polyester.  I went from Switch grips to slugs on my strike balls.  The cover expands and contracts at a different rate than the core/filler, so it sometimes leaves a ridge that can cause problems on my release, so I always use a slug.   On a side note, I like to take 3 strike balls when I fly, so I learned how to throw my strike ball straight, eliminating the need for spare balls.
 
Ditto on the Mix. It reacts almost the same as plastic, but the material around the thumb hole doesn't crack. When I used plastic, I got tired of the thumb hole repair every 6-8 months. The Mix is the Fix.....
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: luv2C10falll on September 17, 2017, 06:30:28 PM
I don't have much flexibility in my wrist due to my line of work for the past 40yrs.If I tried a back up ball,my wrist would probably just fall to the floor 😁
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: ignitebowling on September 17, 2017, 10:11:25 PM
Ive not used thumb inserts for two years now and it's been great. My thumb systems is a 15/16" thumb hole with 2 pieces of tape at 2 o'clock  and then 3-4 pieces of tape at 7 o'clock. Creates a perfect oval and fit for my thumb on all my equipment including plastic.

Do you use slugs/IT on your other balls?

No.  None of my equipment has thumb slugs or finger inserts.
Title: Re: Thumb insert to no inserts, bad idea?
Post by: HackJandy on September 17, 2017, 10:22:27 PM
Ive not used thumb inserts for two years now and it's been great. My thumb systems is a 15/16" thumb hole with 2 pieces of tape at 2 o'clock  and then 3-4 pieces of tape at 7 o'clock. Creates a perfect oval and fit for my thumb on all my equipment including plastic.

Do you use slugs/IT on your other balls?

No.  None of my equipment has thumb slugs or finger inserts.

Not a fan of inserts either and don't have them on any of my new stuff but have a lot of old 2nd hand urethane where at times wanted to avoid more plug holes so had to accept them for some balls thumb and or fingers (new inserts majority of time of course).  In general finger tip inserts do occasionally make sense on weaker urethane balls because they tend to be very weak on THS otherwise.