Is there some way that i can figure out what i need for the top weight and pin position so i can order online insted of having the pro shop reccomend it for me bc their price is to expensive.

so basically is there a way that i can figure out what my hand fit would be without going to the pro shop so i can order it online

Also its my first "real" ball so i cannot ship it there hence its not allready fit to my hand.

actually its like 80$

but you came up with a good ideal with the picture.  Can i actually do that and will it work.  If not is there something like that which wud work

For that matter get a plastic ball.

Without you being there to be measured it would be nearly impossible to get a good fit. Once you have your measurements then you have a chance.

Don't be fooled by higher prices in pro shops, when your driller wants $180 for a high-end ball while Buddies has the same ball for $140, that doesn't include drilling while your driller's price does.  While there is often a difference between the online price plus drilling and the local price that includes drilling, for low-end balls like Power Grooves, it shouldn't be that much and for the first ball, it's definitely not worth it.

SH

And why would the driller provide it for you to do that? Last I checked pro shop owners didn't charge a separate fee for fitting. If they start charging for fitting like an eye exam, then you have the right to the info. If it's part of a ball purchase they aren't obligated to give it to you, even if it is your hand. They may choose to give it away, but I see no value in that for the pro shop, only the e-tailer.

It's also going to ruin any relationship you could  have with your driller, if you bring a ball to already drilled that needs substantial adjustments. The last thing I want to do is work out a ball that doesn't fit and has never been down the lane.

Doing business with any retailer is a two way street. So many online purchases are wrong for the customer. The OP is looking at premium balls online when he needs a Groove, Tornado, etc. A visit to a good pro shop would have set him in the right direction instead of being told what to get by strangers on a message board.

As a ball driller, I don't want to work off another's measurements anyway. Way too many shops use a non standardized system that can be confusing to a shop using a different system. I'd much rather match a ball than take responsibility for the supplied measurements being correct.