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BrunsHead296

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To much loft and not enough roll
« on: November 01, 2006, 10:25:44 AM »
How can I get my loft down and increase my roll?
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TheGodFather_LaCN

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Re: To much loft and not enough roll
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2006, 06:29:17 PM »
dont chuck the ball lol... You probably need to slow down your mechanics.. that or just try to get lower at the foul line..

dizzyfugu

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Re: To much loft and not enough roll
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2006, 02:35:42 AM »
Sounds like me... (check the style video in my profile and some close-ups in ball videos there).

The most simple answer: let go!

Additionally, you can check you thumb hole bevel and/or have you thumb pitch checked. Yesterday I had the luck to be in training on the adjacent lane with my ball driller, and he suggested trying a different pitch in one ball. We re-drilled one on the spot, and a slight shift in the thumb pitch really worked wonders. Instead of lofting the ball 5' out, this was immediately a success!
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azus

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Re: To much loft and not enough roll
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2006, 04:46:24 AM »
Try Ron cliftons articles about how to get a smooth landing.
http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/tip28.htm
http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/tip29.htm
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Re: To much loft and not enough roll
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2006, 02:09:15 PM »


Lack of F'ing talent??? What kind of BS reply is that???


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Ragnar

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Re: To much loft and not enough roll
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2006, 02:13:31 PM »
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Lack of F'ing talent??? What kind of BS reply is that???


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It is one of the possible acronymic sources of LOFT, generally used in a humorous manner.  You may need to work on that humor thing.

To address the question, yes, read Ron C's articles.  Work on the "flat spot" at the bottom of your swing.  
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Re: To much loft and not enough roll
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2006, 02:36:37 PM »
I actually have the opposite problem, I've got too much roll sometimes, sounds weird but trust me it happens and I get roll out because of it.

I noticed that when you throw (from your previous video) your wrist is cupped to full mast.  I think you're not relaxing your wrist early enough so beacause of that when you are letting go of the ball all of the weight is on your thumb and in your thumb hole so you're not able to let go of the thumb to lift through the fingers properly.  As you lean down for your release gently roll out your wrist and release your thumb, a small roll will begin and finish the rest with your fingers.

Using your wrist the throw the ball will create a lot of revs but kill your entry angle and prevent you from being able to consistently hit a target because now your whole arm is determining where the ball goes instead of being able to follow throw with your target using your hand.

Just my two cents! I'm working on the same things right now and it's been getting progressively better.  Just remember that if your thumb is still facing up in the air just before your release then you're over-cupping the ball.