Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 18, 2003, 10:45:35 PM
I'm doing some prospecting here to see what type of interest there would be. I'm working together with the owner of Victory Lanes in Kankakee, Illinois to set up a one-day tournament sometime in January or February. I have no idea what kind on entry fee we would be talking about or anything like that as of now, but those deals will be worked out later. The gimic here is that bowlers will be allowed to use plastic equipment ONLY, no urethane, resin or particle. We are still working to figure out what type of oil pattern we could put out for something like that, but it would undoubtedly be some type of a short pattern. At this point, we're just looking to see how many people would be willing to sack up and put their game on the line using nothing but plastic. Eventually, we would like to get an entire league of this sort going, but, in the interim, we're looking to see how many people would be willing to try something like this. Obviously, with no clear cut information determined yet, other than the ball requirements, it will be tough for people to say whether they'd try this or not. What I'm really looking to see is just how many people would be willing to do this. Message or post here if you'd be willing to try this, and we'll see if we can turn this into a reality. This is could be a perfect chance to show just how much game you've really got!
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Post by: DukeHarding on November 19, 2003, 01:51:52 PM
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Post by: omegabowler on November 19, 2003, 02:12:13 PM
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Post by: omegabowler on November 19, 2003, 02:21:02 PM
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 19, 2003, 02:53:16 PM
Great to see the replies so far, keep them coming! As I said before, the specifics of the event will be determined and passed along as soon as is possible. Continue to make suggestions. Let's make this thing happen. Who else is in??
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Post by: livespive on November 19, 2003, 02:57:00 PM
I might travel from Ohio to try this one.
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 19, 2003, 05:04:23 PM
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Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on November 19, 2003, 05:10:51 PM
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Hey everyone,
I'm doing some prospecting here to see what type of interest there would be. I'm working together with the owner of Victory Lanes in Kankakee, Illinois to set up a one-day tournament sometime in January or February. I have no idea what kind on entry fee we would be talking about or anything like that as of now, but those deals will be worked out later. The gimic here is that bowlers will be allowed to use plastic equipment ONLY, no urethane, resin or particle.
White Dots rule! Yeah, I'd be willing to make the drive just to be able to go to a tournament with ONE ball
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Not another 10 pin!
Post by: SrKegler on November 19, 2003, 05:11:43 PM
Course now I need a plastic ball. Got a lot of BR members in the Chicago area, should be able to have a decent turnout.
Pepper, Kankakee is North west of Indy, in between Chicago and Champaign.
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 19, 2003, 05:14:11 PM
For those who do not already have a plastic ball, my driller might be able to set up some kind of a special if anyone would be interested in preordering a ball for the event. We might be able to tie in the cost of the ball with the entry or something. If anyone would be interested in pursuing something like this, let me know and we'll see what we can work out.
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Post by: Joe Cool on November 19, 2003, 05:14:26 PM
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Post by: Urethane Game on November 19, 2003, 05:16:58 PM
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Post by: Saw Mill on November 19, 2003, 08:29:14 PM
Depends on time and date, and what the particulars will be. Just post the info.
Dave
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Post by: michelle on November 19, 2003, 09:24:01 PM
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 19, 2003, 09:58:24 PM
Gene J. Kanak
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Post by: SrKegler on November 19, 2003, 10:11:37 PM
I kinda like the idea of having the cost of the plastic figured into the cost of the tournament. That way everyone would be using the same ball, just different drillings.
If that was going to cost us entries though, I'd say let them use any plastic ball to hold the cost down. We're still talking about accuracy.
I would even enjoy one of the PBA patterns if you can get the interest in it.
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Post by: shotmaker on November 19, 2003, 10:41:27 PM
Post by: omegabowler on November 19, 2003, 10:53:51 PM
I only like the guy I go to to drill my equipment. so I would not want a ball.
can we bring more than one plastic ball?
you know, the complete arsenal of plastic.
one for oil,one for med, one for dry and one for spares
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Post by: SrKegler on November 19, 2003, 10:56:17 PM
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Post by: shotmaker on November 20, 2003, 09:08:50 AM
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 20, 2003, 09:30:54 AM
SrKegler--This is not Steve Rogers' house, he is over at Marycrest Lanes on the other side of town. Victory Lanes is co-owned by Lance Murray, a great guy and one hell of a bowler. He's in the top five or so in earnings in the Midwest on this year's regional senior tour.
To those who asked---We would have one entry fee for those who wanted a ball, and another for those who do not. It would kind of be like the pro-ams that offer deals on balls to go along with the entry.
As far as the XXXL is concerned, that decision has not been made. I have, however, already thought about the possibility of that ball being too strong. It's funny to think that we might actually ban certain plastic balls for being too stong!
Again, keep the suggestions coming. With all of these responses, plus the people that I think I'll get from around here, I now don't see any reason why this won't happen. I'm going to talk to start talking to possible sponsors in the area.
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Post by: anotherwindup on November 20, 2003, 09:49:33 AM
Surface prep being a big key.
Plastic can read early if sanded, and go long if polished.
There are also some Everclear balls on the market that are plastic, but will really bend.
This will be a tournament that will need many rules laid out concerning the ball restrictions.
Sounds like a good idea, though.
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Post by: livespive on November 20, 2003, 10:06:29 AM
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Depends on what day. I start working weekends again in Jan, hate to miss days that early in the year. If it falls on a day I'm working midnites I can get up there and back in time.
Course now I need a plastic ball. Got a lot of BR members in the Chicago area, should be able to have a decent turnout.
Pepper, Kankakee is North west of Indy, in between Chicago and Champaign.
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Thanks there Salt,
Just might see you there.
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Post by: livespive on November 20, 2003, 10:12:23 AM
for a $100 Pre paid everyone gets a bluedot sent to the bowler so he can get it drilled for the tournament, or for $50 you show up with your own Blue dot.
Doesn't have to be a bluedot, but you get the concept, everyone uses the same pancake block plastic ball......
Just like the old days.
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Post by: 9andaWiggle on November 20, 2003, 11:02:09 AM
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 20, 2003, 02:08:13 PM
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Post by: omegabowler on November 20, 2003, 02:18:46 PM
only throwing the plastic will show who is really a good bowler.
that takes me out
so I think the format should eliminate one styles dominance.
go with an 8 game marathon type with finals. one 4 game squad on one oil pattern. one that makes you play inside. like a reverese block with 25 feet of oil inside 10.
and one four game squad on another oil pattern than make you play down and in with acuracy.
have the finals be king of the hill format on an open scoring pattern. reward those that could tough it out.
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Post by: O on November 20, 2003, 02:28:42 PM
Post by: anotherwindup on November 20, 2003, 02:38:21 PM
Maxims
Blue Dots
Boogie Balls, etc.
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Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on November 21, 2003, 08:23:48 AM
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you know, the complete arsenal of plastic.
one for oil,one for med, one for dry and one for spares
My son has gone up in ball weight recently, so he has a 2-ball plastic arsenal: 8 lbs. and 10 lbs.
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Not another 10 pin!
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 21, 2003, 10:04:22 AM
I'm going to talk with Lance Murray about the particulars this afternoon and I'm looking for some last-minute input. Here are the questions that I'd like answers for:
1. Is there a particular weekend in January or February that is especially good or bad?
2. Do we want this to be scratch, or handicap with a low number like 60% or 70% of 200?
3. What balls, other than the XXXL, do we need to rule out, and should we make a rule about coverstock prep?
4. I was originally thinking of 3 games of qualifying, cutting the field in half and seeding for match play until there's a winner. How does this sound?
5. Any final suggestions on oil patterns?
6. Any other odds and ends?
I have a fairly good idea of what we're looking at here, but I want to give everyone another chance to chime in before we start laying out the final works.
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Post by: livespive on November 21, 2003, 11:08:54 AM
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Gene,
1.New Years weekend is bad for me,all others are ok.
2.SCRATCH
3.XXXL and anything other than pancake weight block banned.
4.How about 4 game block 2 on short oil and 2 on longer pattern.
5.See #4
6.SCRATCH
7.Did I mention SCRATCH bowling
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I think xman hit it there.
1.That first week in January is going to be bad for about all.
2.I would maybey look at scratch with divisions 200+ and 200-
3.Just pancake blocks
4. Cover prep limited to the start of the touney the beginning of game 3(4 goame block) and the beging of the roll offs
5. I would also say just one ball
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 21, 2003, 01:54:47 PM
I just got back from talking with Lance, and the details are set! I tried to take as many suggestions as possible into account. I hope everyone is happy with what we've come up with.
Lance Murray and Gene J. Kanak, along with a great deal of help from the wonderful members of Ballreviews.com, are proud to present:
The Victory Lanes "Old School" Open
Where: Victory Lanes--1801 W. Station Street. Kankakee, IL 60901
Date: Sunday, February 8, 2004
Times: A-squad 9:00 a.m., B-Squad 11:00 a.m., Semifinals and finals will immediately follow after re-oiling.
Cost: Standard entry fee $30.
Standard entry + plastic ball shipped to your home $80
Standard entry + plastic ball drilled by Lance Murray $90
Prize fund: Cashing will be at a 1 out of 4 ratio. The prize money (based upon the max number of 64 entries) will be as follows:
1st Place---$500
2nd Place--$250
3rd-4th------$120
5th-8th------$60
9th-16th----$30
We are currently in the process of seeking sponsorship, so the prize fund has the possibility of being increased. On the flip side, the fund will be adjusted accordingly to fit the 1 out of 4 ratio if the maximum number of entrees is not reached as well. Based upon initial interest, however, it appears that reaching 64 is well within reach.
Format: This will be a scratch event, as that was what was requested most often, and it lessens the hassle of requiring each and every bowler to provide proof of average.
5 games of qualifying across 10 lanes.
If there are 64 bowlers, the top 16 will advance to match play. If
there are fewer bowlers, the cut may move to top 8. If this is the
case, however, additional cashers may be paid out to keep the
cashing ratio at 1 of 4.
The semifinals will consist of one-game seeded match play.
The finals will be a best 2 out of 3 match for the title.
Equipment guidelines: This was perhaps the toughest decision to make, as there were a bevy of suggestions as to how to handle this. Our final thought was that the conditions that will be put out, while fair, will be more than enough to challenge the field, thus, ANY PLASTIC BALL IS ALLOWED. No rubber, no urethane, no particle, no resin. All drillings must meet ABC competition guidelines and will be checked before semifinal competition begins. Coverstock alterations will be allowed before competition begins, but is FORBIDDEN AFTER THE 1ST BALL FOR SCORE IS THROWN!
Entries: We are capping the field at 64, and, with the amount of interest this has drawn already, it is likely that we will reach that number. You can reserve your entry by mailing a check to Victory Lanes, C/O Lance Murray at the address listed above. Please be sure to indicate either on the memo line or somewhere else that your check is for the "Old School Open". Lance Murray is a member of the Regional PBA Senior Tour, and I have never had a problem with anyone on this board, so have no fear. If you do not want to pre-pay, you can also give a verbal reservation by messaging me at this site or by calling Victory Lanes (815) 939-2695. However, if we run into a situation in which we are approaching the maximum number of entries, reservations with payment will have to be given priority.
If you have any questions or comments feel free to message me back, otherwise, I look forward to hearing from all of you soon and seeing you at Victory Lanes in February. This should be a great chance to have some fun, meet some people and bowl for a pretty hefty prize fund! Be sure to tell your friends; let's make this an event we can't forget!
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 21, 2003, 06:33:22 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on November 21, 2003, 07:15:59 PM
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ANY PLASTIC BALL IS ALLOWED. No rubber, no urethane, no particle, no resin.
Understand your quandry here Gene. I see a lot of bowlers going out and purchasing XXXL's. To bad it was a good idea until you allowed that type of core in anything plastic. Wish you well in your endeavor.
Scott
Post by: Buzzhead on November 21, 2003, 08:39:30 PM
This ball has a REAL DAMN CORE IN IT so it is not allowed in a
plastic ball tournament.!!!!!!!! wwaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhBAWLBABIES!!!!
boohoo. If any other companies would stop crankin out the oil eaters
and look around they would see what lane #1 has seen and create
the same damn thing. Plastic is plastic. If you are going to run a
PLASTIC tournament either include ball in entry fee or keep your mouth shut when someone walks in with 4 different XXXL's surface prepped and drilled
differently.
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Post by: Buzzhead on November 21, 2003, 08:44:51 PM
lol sorry.
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 21, 2003, 10:06:44 PM
I'm sorry if some people are disappointed by the fact that we decided to allow all plastic. The reason for this decision was because I did not want to force people to purchase a new plastic ball just for this occasion. The other problem is that the XXXL is not the only plastic ball with a dynamic core. What about the Clear Wolf, and some of the others that can move. The facts are, if people work hard enough to find an advantage, no matter how small, they will almost always be able to do so. For this reason, we are going to find a condition that limits this advantage and is as fair to everyone. If someone wants to go out and buy 4 different XXXL's, all prepared differently, let them do it. In the end, they will still have to negotiate the pattern and the competition in order for it to pay off in the end. The purpose of this tourney is to have a good time and to have a tourney where shot making ability is at a premium. I am still 100% confident that this will be the case, regardless of what plastic balls people bring in. Let's not sweat the small stuff.
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Post by: omegabowler on November 21, 2003, 10:12:55 PM
if this is going to be an annual event I may just buy 2 XXXL's.
although I must say, I have a clear gargoyle an it moved as much as a guy with a XXXL in league last year.
I may have to learn to turn the ball again.
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Post by: SrKegler on November 21, 2003, 10:21:35 PM
Bottom line is if you can't get it to the hole consistently, doesn't matter what you are using.
Looking at the list of people coming, I'm guessing -10 to make top 16.
PS checks in the mail for B-squad. Don-t get off work in time for A-squad.
CYA.
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Post by: michelle on November 21, 2003, 10:28:06 PM
Post by: SrKegler on November 21, 2003, 10:44:39 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on November 21, 2003, 11:26:33 PM
There is NOTHING wrong with restrictions Gene. I bowled in a Yellow Dot league and it worked great. I moved from the area and the league is still running today.
Scott
Post by: captainhook on November 21, 2003, 11:30:42 PM
won't be the same watching you walk into the lanes without your ball rack on wheels.GENE: how about a 300 pot with the entry extra $10 anyone shots 300 with plastic they win the pot, if no one wins put the money towards prize fund to pay more places just a thought.
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Post by: SrKegler on November 21, 2003, 11:47:01 PM
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Post by: TOON on November 21, 2003, 11:47:07 PM
For an oil pattern, how about no more than a 1.5 ratio of oil from board to board?
Well, that's my 2 cents worth....
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 22, 2003, 09:23:57 AM
As always, I appreciate the suggestions. I especially like the idea of throwing an extra $10 bucks in as a 300 pot. That's a great idea. As far as the controversy about the equipment in concerned, I still think that some people are blowing it way out of proportion. I've seen the XXXL in action, so I do know that it can hit hard. However, some people are making it seem as if by allowing them to be used we are guaranteeing the user a spot in the finals or something. Again, I did not want to force anyone to buy a new ball just for the sake of the event. We figured that keeping the entry fee low was more important. Are there really people out there who are going to come with three XXXL's, all drilled and prepared differently just for the sake of winning? Maybe. This is my first attempt to organize an event from beginning to end. I promise you all one thing, if it turns out that the only people who compete for the title are those using the "high powered" plastic balls that some of you are so afraid of, they will be banned the next time around. My goal for this event was to have a good time by meeting some of the people I see posting on here so ofterh and to have a tournament where shot making was at a premium. I don't care how aggressive the XXXL's, Clear Wolves and others can be, we are still going to have that. I'm sorry if everything about this event does not please everyone, as I truly valued each and every suggestion. But when it's all said and done we have choices that we have to make in order to make the event appealing to the most people. I'm hoping that we don't see that many XXXL's and Clear Wolves, as I'm hoping that a moderate prize fund like this is not enough to make too many people hell bent on winning to the point where they completely miss the point of the event. To those who are coming, can't wait to see you there; we're going to have a lot of fun. To those who are shying away because of the equipment, I hope you realize what the point of this event truly is and that you change your minds, as it would be great to see you there too.
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Post by: michelle on November 22, 2003, 12:15:17 PM
Post by: michelle on November 22, 2003, 12:44:39 PM
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Michelle.. I agree with having more than 3 games, but what equipment would you really have to take??? It's plastic only?
LS...It would be the regular tote with shoes and other accoutrements. But when I fly, I usually go carry-on only and the airlines are being picky about not letting you carry on bowling equipment. The other option is UPS'ing the stuff to relatives, which is equally a nuisance for only three games.
Post by: scotts33 on November 22, 2003, 12:51:06 PM
Scott
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 22, 2003, 04:11:39 PM
Okay, it's pretty obvious at this point that there are two major points of contention for some people:
1. Ball restrictions
2. 3 game format
I don't think that I can really change the ball restrictions at this point, as this event is already being advertised in this area. What I can do, however, is guarantee you that the pattern that we're going to put down, while fair, is going to level the playing field. There is not going to be a particular area of the lane, or ball for that matter, that is going to provide one bowler/style with any advantage over any other. Those who do well in this event are going to be the people who can hit their marks most often, and who can make their spares when they don't. To ensure that this is the case, I already have a few locals testing plastic gear (including XXXL's and some others) on some of the various patterns that we're considering. These balls will be as effective as any others, not significantly more or less. If this knowledge isn't enough to put your concerns at rest, then buy yourself a XXXL if you think that it's going to give you that much of an advantage. My gosh, you've got over 2 months before this even takes place.
As far as the format is concerned, we could probably add another game or so of qualifying, but we can't go much beyond that because of scheduling issues.
michelle, I'll tell you what, I'll pay to have your gear shipped to Victory if you don't want to carry it onto a flight. I won't do that for everyone, but I'd like it if you could come. I hope that helps a little.
Lastly, as I have already said a few times, this event is supposed to give the people on here a chance to get together and have some fun. Let's put the petty issues out of our heads for a few minutes and remember that. This has the chance to be a great event, and anything that doesn't go over well this time will be changed before we do it again. Come out and be a part of this. Damn it, let's just get together and bow!
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Post by: BadShot on November 22, 2003, 04:16:53 PM
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Post by: twister on November 22, 2003, 06:50:38 PM
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 22, 2003, 07:04:50 PM
I'm not trying to criticize people for voicing their concerns about the ball restrictions. I am, however, sticking with the claim that it is a gross over-reaction. If you can't get the ball to the pocket, the core isn't going to help you very much. Besides, if people are so convinced that these other balls will give them that great of an advantage, buy one, bring it up here and prove me wrong. I just want to meet and bowl with people from this site. I'm sorry if the ball rules are turning some people away, but we can't make everyone happy. I've had several people tell me that they would not come if they had to buy a new ball just for the event, so I guess it's just a matter of you can't please everyone.
For those worried about the format only being 3 games, how many do you suggest we go to? If it is really that big of a bone of contention then maybe we can compress from 2 squads to 1 and extend the number of games or something. I'd have to talk to Lance to see what we can do about that. How many games would you guys need to bowl in order for it to be worthwhile? Let me know and I'll see what I can do. I suppose we could keep the format the same, just lengthen the number of qualifying games. Let me know what you think.
P.S. Yes, there will be brackets and side pots available. We're also thinking of using one suggestion that we run a $10 300 pot that gets tacked onto the entry for those who are interested. If someone shoots 300 they win, otherwise the extra $10 goes into the prize fund.
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Post by: michelle on November 22, 2003, 07:54:17 PM
Post by: SrKegler on November 22, 2003, 08:42:01 PM
One thing that worries me is lane availability. With them limiting the field to 64, it looks to me like we have 16 lanes, 2 per lane per squad. If we go to more games, we will probably be limited to 1 squad with more people on the pair. More games may mean an earlier start to the squads.
There is probably a few of the bowlers in the same boat as I am. I've got about a 4 hour drive up there. 1100 squad means I don't have to leave home until about 6:00 AM. Trying to make the 9:00 squad makes it a little difficult. We may lose some bowlers just because of the inconvenience.
Another thing to look at is if you run the numbers, there is very little, if any expenses being held out. Looks like the only expenses is about $1.70 a game for lineage. Cheapest tournament I've seen lately.
Let's help Gene out here, have one succesful tournament. Afterwards, those of us that attend can make suggestions for changes to the next one.
Darold
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Post by: twister on November 22, 2003, 10:58:16 PM
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 24, 2003, 07:00:01 AM
I talked to Lance last night, and we agreed to push qualifying to 5 games instead of 3. I know that this is still not the 8 games that some people would have liked. Maybe we can get that many next time. However, I hope this helps a few of the out-of-town people feel like the event is more worthwhile for them. The squad times will remain the same. Hope this helps.
Gene J. Kanak
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 24, 2003, 01:03:41 PM
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Post by: Game In a BoxLC on November 24, 2003, 02:39:22 PM
on a serious note, to those complaining about the XXL. Jesus christ man, the guy is making a tournament like this because so many people are fed up with these snow tire bowling balls, finally a tournament with just plastic, and now you complain about too aggressive of plastic balls. How about i go soak a caramel in some MEK and come bowl, it would actually be more unfair than the hard hitting core because of the surface. Gene the tournament is a great idea, i hope it starts a trend and gets off its feet, to the people saying they aren't coming because of the XXL being allowed, you are hypocrites. Its a plastic ball, sure it has a great core but you still have to be able to make shots to get it to the hole.
Good luck gene, im hoping i can make it down, ZEBRA POWER
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 24, 2003, 05:05:30 PM
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Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 25, 2003, 07:43:02 PM
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Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 26, 2003, 09:10:44 AM
I'm glad to see so many people interested. We are taking reservations at this time. You can lock in a spot by sending your check to Victory Lanes at the address listed in the original post, or you can give a verbal reservation by messaging me, posting or calling Victory Lanes and giving your information. It would be great if those of you who think that you're going to be there can let me know, as I would like to start penciling in names to see where we stand in terms of numbers. Remember, the field is capped at 64 bowlers, so get your spot reserved as soon as you can! Can't wait to see you all there.
Gene J. Kanak
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Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Post by: michelle on November 26, 2003, 09:31:35 AM
Post by: Jeffrevs on November 26, 2003, 10:39:51 AM
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Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 26, 2003, 09:53:06 PM
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Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Post by: ChinaManB on November 28, 2003, 01:26:26 PM
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THE CHINA MAN
Post by: Wilbert on November 28, 2003, 02:53:24 PM
Post by: Gene J Kanak on November 28, 2003, 04:30:49 PM
Glad to see some of you are stating your intentions about coming to the event. Once again, I encourage all out of town participants to send your checks in as soon as you can. There are still a number of spots available right now, but they are filling quickly, and I don't want anyone to get locked out. On another note, I will be on vacation all of this week 11/29-12/6. Feel free to continue messaging or posting your intentions to come, or call Victory Lanes (815) 939-2695 and speak to Lance Murray if you need information before I get back. I hope to see many more of you on the reserved list when I get back. Hope everyone is having a good holiday! I'll talk to you soon.
Gene J. Kanak
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Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Post by: ChinaManB on November 30, 2003, 03:10:11 PM
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THE CHINA MAN
Post by: ChinaManB on December 01, 2003, 09:09:27 PM
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THE CHINA MAN
Post by: Gene J Kanak on December 06, 2003, 11:02:54 PM
I just got back in town tonight (Saturday), so feel free to contact me with any questions, concerns or to make your reservations. I'm happy to see that some new people have shown interest and have started to reserve spots. It looks like this event is going to bring a full house. We've still got spots available, but I don't think we're going to have any problems filling them! Let me know which squad you want to bowl so you don't get locked out. Just message or post. I can't wait!
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Bowling is without a doubt the dumbest, most pointless, most idiotic excuse for a game that has ever been invented. So, what time are we bowling tomorrow?
Post by: livespive on January 05, 2004, 09:37:47 AM
Are there any spots open?
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