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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: jjweb on October 20, 2004, 12:11:13 PM
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I want to get some opinions on a project I am working on.
Say there was a bowling service that came to your house. Offering not only drilling and normal proshop services. But was also a complete showroom with balls, bags, shoes and accessories at great prices.
Would you consider it a helpful service?
How much would you be willing to pay as a service charge to have a pro shop come to you?
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It would be an interesting experiment, but I doubt it would succeed. Too many people are comfortable with who they already use. I pay $10-20 more per ball drilled than a few other shops in town because the guy I use is the best and his skill is worth it. You would need a top notch reputation as being the best for it to work. Good luck if you decide to try it.
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So how would that work? Like get a big van, kinda like a gutter truck? Im not sure how much I would like that. I mean its a nice idea, but thats kinda like going on a roller coaster at a carnival, you dont know what will happen, or if somethings gonna fall apart.
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Actually, we are planning on using 24' truck for the shop. We've already figured the layout and how to properly secure everything. We not only plan on doing house calls, but also service tournaments, leagues and such.
Point taken about the reputation... You have to start out with a reputation, somewhere.
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Hey I think that's a great idea! It would really help out busy people like me. But if sometimes you don't have time to get work done on your equipment because you don't have enough time between work and league can you just get it dropped off at your office? But do i need to give measurements over the phone or will you take my measurements at my office and drill it while i'm working?
Thanks,
The Righty.
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My mama always said... Life is like a pair of lanes, You never know what your gonna get.
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Chances are if you parked your mobile Pro Shop at any bowling center that had a Pro Shop someone is going to politely ask you to remove yourself from their property.
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I can't really see it working for "house calls" be good for Comps though...
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I find that many people in my area, don't trust their pro shop operator. I watched a person walk in and layout $250 (insert, slug and tax) for a ball (Triple X-factor). They went and bowled a few frames of a game, walked back in and asked if he would polish it. The guy charged him $3 for polishing a ball the person just paid $250. I don't think that's good customer service.
If it's not the nickel and dime treatment, it's the lack of knowledge. I firmly believe you shouldn't pawn a ball off on someone you know it's not going to match. Just because you can make a couple of extra bucks off.
A lot of people in the leagues here barely make it to league, let alone have enough time to take a trip to the shop.
Our thought was if you are within 10 miles, no charge to visit. Anything outside of that a $10 charge would apply.
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Chances are if you parked your mobile Pro Shop at any bowling center that had a Pro Shop someone is going to politely ask you to remove yourself from their property.
Randy0 said it right on the $.
Scott
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Yea, set up dates and times almost like a demo-day. You could always get some radio ads, and cheap stuff like that, and maybe ask to 'rent out' a parking lot for a day or so, and have people come check you out. Give out buisness cards. That way you get exposed more, just dont do it in the parking lot of say, a bowling alley. LOL.
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is!
The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
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Years ago, like in the 1960's and 1970's, there was a team of brothers out of Sioux City, Iowa that did this very thing. These two guys went all over the place in a van offering to drill balls for those in smaller communities. It didn't last very long. I knew the younger brother because I worked for him in the bowling center that he later managed. He told me that they were doing this for 3 years and didn't really make any money. I guess most of the money made to keep the van going was from the older brother betting on horses. He mentioned that he'd do it again in todays market since there is more to choose from, both for balls and drilling techniques. I suppose back in those days anyone could put three holes into a rubber ball. If you try this venture, good luck! Sounds like a pretty cool plan.
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I would also suggest that you carry shirts/shoes/etc....those are where you can differentiate yourself from the average proshop...
My neighbor and I have talked about this same concept for cycling...building a trailer with clothing/etc...the difference for us is that we can show up at an event and not worry about competing with a brick and mortar shop....
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Good subject!!
their is a mobile pro shop out of Spokane, WA ran by a guy by te name of Julius Williams jr. From what I hear it is very successful.
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Edited on 10/21/2004 11:03 AM
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Honestly, I think there is a market for it in my area. We plan on dropping off flyers at local centers, handing around business cards, basically good old fashioned networking. Most of the bowlers near me are "Ball of the Month" club type people. They blindly purchase whatever the pro shop guy suggests, most of the time it's completely the wrong choice. You know the old "I guarantee this will hook off the lane" ploy. I guess I 'm tired of seeing that.
That's exactly what we had in mind. Running some sort of a schedule around leagues. I know that plenty of the bowlers in my current league, would already benefit from such a service that would be willing to travel to them.
We would be a complete shop: Balls, Bags, Shoes, Tape, Towels, Wrist accessories, Grip accessories, etc...
We are still deciding on what Mill to get. Tri-Oval, Innovative or Ovalmatic.
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Honestly, I think there is a market for it in my area. We plan on dropping off flyers at local centers, handing around business cards, basically good old fashioned networking.
Do these centers that you are going to visit have pro shops?
Scott
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Yes, very small ones. In fact, they are hardly ever open during league times. If you know a large men's league is coming at 7, why would you close at 5? Funny thing is, most of the pro shop guys are bowling in multiple leagues, so they really don't have the time.
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The bowling gods said "let there be strikes" and then there was Dyno-Thane!
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IMO....I believe you are going to have problems. If the center owns the pro shop and has an employee doing the work. That's one scenario.
The other is when a pro shop operator leases space from the center. You are in direct competition with them and you have nothing invested as far as lease, etc.
Put yourself in their shoes. What their business practices are that's their choice.
I'd ask center proprietors before I'd go make the large investment you are talking about and make sure it will fly. Draw up some type of agreement. You will be on their private property and they can ask you to leave at any time.
Just being the devil's advocate here.
Scott
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Personally, I think there is a missed opportunity with this idea.
Why not approach ball manufacturers, like Ebonite/Hammer, and offer to take their Demo Days program on the road. Local pro shops that are members of the Ebo/Hammer pro shop program will welcome this and if you're lucky you could get Ebo/Hammer to subsidize your trips.
You could make money on every ball sold, like a commission. If you're smart, you'd partner with local stars like Randy Pederson who are not touring but would be a valuable resource/attraction for bowlers. The local pro could do the layouts and you could do the drilling. Not to mention all the coaching (see Kegel's Digital Coach program) and other service/accessory sales.
Yes, it's another great Bamaster "Ideas for Future Millionaires" post.
Tony
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The reason I'm negative on the service is for three reasons.
1. Bowlers in general compared to golf do not have the disposable income necessary to make it a profitable adventure, versus as a golf repair van you would make a fortune!!!
2. Distributing flyers at centers with proshops could lead to banishment, broken legs arms or other non appendage bones. This would also apply to tournament sites.
3. A bunch of bowling balls rolling around a 24 foot van can develop a lot of momentum don't stop quick. Many or some bowlers with vans have been killed by flying 16 and 15 pound projectiles during a quick stop. * thru 13 will do a hell of a whack too! Drive safely! Stop smoothly.
You have been given a great tip. I would contact Julius Williams in Tacoma Washington to see how he navigated these landmines. Proshop owners, middle to lower income average bowler, safety, last thing is having lanes to practice throw on. Of course I've been to sites with a 12 to 9 foot piece of lane and it was great to practice release!
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Great idea bamaster!
Neither of the shops here are leased, they are both owned by the alley. Although there is a guy that does drill out of his house, and does seem to be affecting the local shops. Why? His prices and service. He doesn't stock anything, just places orders for the balls and drills the span and pitches from your current ball.
We look at it this way. If it fails, we can always say we tried. But we still have the option on opening a shop somewhere.
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The bowling gods said "let there be strikes" and then there was Dyno-Thane!