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USBC CANCELS REMAINING 2020 NATIONAL EVENTS
USBC COLLEGIATE SEASON POSTPONED
ARLINGTON, Texas – The United States Bowling Congress has canceled all remaining national events for 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
“These decisions are tough on everyone, but mostly our players, athletes and members,†USBC Executive Director Chad Murphy said. “USBC’s mission is to serve our bowlers, and canceling the most significant events in the sport certainly is heartbreaking for all involved. Nevertheless, USBC has a responsibility to consider the health of its members and their communities. Given the increasing spread of COVID-19 in several states, along with constantly changing guidelines and travel restrictions, we sadly do not see a responsible way to conduct national events in 2020.â€
This cancellation includes the previously postponed USBC Open Championships, USBC Women’s Championships, USBC Masters, USBC Senior Masters, USBC Senior Queens and Super Senior Classic.
The 2020-2021 USBC Collegiate season will be postponed until January 2021 and be conducted as a second-semester sport. The dates for the Intercollegiate Team and Singles Championships will be determined at a later time, with plans to hold them in the late spring or early summer.
USA Bowling events and in-person coaching seminars for 2020 also have been postponed to 2021.
USBC previously announced the cancellation of the 2020 Professional Women’s Bowling Association Tour season, with a possibility of conducting events in the fall and winter months. In light of current conditions, plans for a PWBA event in late 2020 now are indefinitely on hold.
USBC plans to resume a traditional schedule of events in January 2021, starting with USBC Team USA Trials, as conditions allow.
“While USBC national events are canceled, bowling certainly is not shut down for 2020,†Murphy said. “USBC is confident competitive bowling can take place locally, and we are seeing many proprietors taking proactive steps to responsibly host leagues in accordance with local guidelines. Those steps will help leagues begin and tournaments to take place during the rest of the summer and into the fall. Our hope is that conditions improve to allow national events again in 2021.â€
Teams registered for the 2020 Open and Women’s Championships may request to have their payments rolled forward for the 2021 tournaments, or they can request full refunds.
Individuals who have submitted entries for any USBC short-duration event (Masters, Senior Masters, Senior Queens, Super Senior Classic) will be refunded in the upcoming weeks.
United States Bowling Congress
The United States Bowling Congress serves as the national governing body of bowling as recognized by the United States Olympic & Paralympic Committee (USOPC). USBC conducts championship events nationwide including the largest participation sporting events in the world – the USBC Open and Women’s Championships – and professional events such as the USBC Masters and USBC Queens.
Founded in 1895, today USBC and its 1,638 state and local associations proudly serve more than a million members. USBC is headquartered in Arlington, Texas, working toward a future for the sport. The online home for USBC is BOWL.com.
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Wow, it’s almost like I said this would happen. Wait a minute...........where are the infectious disease experts on this site ?
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Wow, it’s almost like I said this would happen. Wait a minute...........where are the infectious disease experts on this site ?
Huh?
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The USBC had no choice. Good for them for making the tough decision! I am waiting for the PBA to announce an end to all events for the remainder of the year as well. PWBA already ended the year, PBA50 is on hold, PBA League is postponed to September. Seems like this weekend's PBA Finals (in Florida!) are still a go, but wouldn't be surprised if that is the last PBA event of the year.
Now, if only my local bowling center would at least follow the state order requiring masks for all indoor sports activities instead of making their own rules that masks are optional. 60-70 bowlers on the league each week, halfhearted attempts at social distancing, and only 6-7 of us wearing masks. It's really "fun".
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Here in TX, Gov Abbott is gonna speak about a shutdown possibly and the first things probably shut down again, Bowling Alleys.
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If they really want to stop or at least slow this down, everyone needs to be wearing N95 level masks.
The current bullshit isn't doing anything except preventing one person from spitting on others.
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If they really want to stop or at least slow this down, everyone needs to be wearing N95 level masks.
The current bullshit isn't doing anything except preventing one person from spitting on others.
There was an item on the news today that PPE is still in short supply. One would think that 4 months in to this thing it would have been replenished plus some. Although just finding disinfectant wipes at the store is impossible still, so yeah...
Another item was a study that shows that properly worn standard cloth masks and disposable face masks not only protect others, but it turns out also protects the wearer. Supposedly reduces the chance of getting the virus by 65%. Not as effective as N95 masks, but still offers protection to the wearer. Could be a "fake media" story timed to coincide with growing calls for mask mandates, but who knows.
If everyone wore a mask of some type for the next 4-6 weeks, it would be interesting to see how much the infection and mortality rates change. Could be significant.
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If they really want to stop or at least slow this down, everyone needs to be wearing N95 level masks.
The current bullshit isn't doing anything except preventing one person from spitting on others.
I don't know if I agree with that. If you look at other Asian countries where masks are a normal thing, N95s are not what's used by the general public.
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If they really want to stop or at least slow this down, everyone needs to be wearing N95 level masks.
The current bullshit isn't doing anything except preventing one person from spitting on others.
While I agree with you. Nobody should have to tell us we have to wear a mask. It really boils down to two simple things. 1. Dont stand near someone you dont know. 2. Dont touch your face when out in public. I live in the new hotbed for this thing (Florida) and rarely wear one. When I am out in public, as soon as I am done doing what it is I am doing, I rub sanitizer on my hands. The only time I wear a mask is when I go to a gas station or grocery store and I am forced to wear one. There are people however that should wear one simply because they may have an underlying condition that puts them at a higher risk. But for the majority of us that do not have any health issues, two simple precautions can keep us from being a statistic. It amazes me how many people cant do that.
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The N95 protects the person wearing the mask. At least from 95% of the airborne virus.
Some of the shit I see people wearing only prevents them from spitting on others as they talk or blowing a chunk when they cough or sneeze.
The main problem I have is with the entire "personal responsibility" thing. I'm supposed to wear a mask to protect YOU from me. Screw that, I see a lot of people who refuse to wear a mask, so I could give a shit if they are protected FROM me.
We know the N95 works, so let people take personal responsibility to protect themselves.
As for as availability, there hasn't been a reason to really ramp up production of the N95, just the regular surgical style mask. Once it becomes profitable, they will be available.
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If they really want to stop or at least slow this down, everyone needs to be wearing N95 level masks.
The current bullshit isn't doing anything except preventing one person from spitting on others.
While I agree with you. Nobody should have to tell us we have to wear a mask. It really boils down to two simple things. 1. Dont stand near someone you dont know. 2. Dont touch your face when out in public. I live in the new hotbed for this thing (Florida) and rarely wear one. When I am out in public, as soon as I am done doing what it is I am doing, I rub sanitizer on my hands. The only time I wear a mask is when I go to a gas station or grocery store and I am forced to wear one. There are people however that should wear one simply because they may have an underlying condition that puts them at a higher risk. But for the majority of us that do not have any health issues, two simple precautions can keep us from being a statistic. It amazes me how many people cant do that.
To counter your argument, I submit the story of Typhoid Mary. If you're not familiar with her, she was the one who was asymtomatic with typhoid fever, yet was able to infect roughly 50something other people with it, 3 of whom died of it. It took them a while to find her, including quarantining her twice, even though she showed absolutely zero signs of having typhoid fever herself. So while she showed no signs of it, she had it, was a carrier of it, and was able to transmit that virus to other people, who died from it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon
The point here: just because you think you are healthy and able bodied does not mean you are immune or not susceptible to COVID, nor should that preclude you from wearing a mask. If anything, wearing a mask help you to protect others from catching it from someone who could be an asymtomatic carrier of it.
Hell, if we called for vigilance after 9/11 for people who may or may not be "terrorists", why should we not have the same vigilance for something that is a threat to our lives? Besides, we're bowlers and as such, we bowl on different oil patterns; we're used to fighting an invisible enemy. What should make our reaction to COVID any different?
BL.
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Deaths rates have totally fallen. They are just testing more people.
The tests are garbage as the virus has never been isolated or proven to cause anything. Lots of dead people in NYC from panic medicine and putting them on ventilators for no reason.
I can't believe this fear mongering is still going on. People prefer to see civilization collapse than face a common cold virus.
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136000 and counting. Rest of the world must be just fear mongering too. We have done such a great job we cant even travel to EU. I am sure there is also a conspiracy theory for that.
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I thought this topic was about The USBC Tournaments being cancelled
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Disappointing, but not surprising. With the centers still being closed in many states its not like most of that bowlers were going to be ready anyway. Cross your fingers 🤞🏻 for 2021.
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If they really want to stop or at least slow this down, everyone needs to be wearing N95 level masks.
The current bullshit isn't doing anything except preventing one person from spitting on others.
While I agree with you. Nobody should have to tell us we have to wear a mask. It really boils down to two simple things. 1. Dont stand near someone you dont know. 2. Dont touch your face when out in public. I live in the new hotbed for this thing (Florida) and rarely wear one. When I am out in public, as soon as I am done doing what it is I am doing, I rub sanitizer on my hands. The only time I wear a mask is when I go to a gas station or grocery store and I am forced to wear one. There are people however that should wear one simply because they may have an underlying condition that puts them at a higher risk. But for the majority of us that do not have any health issues, two simple precautions can keep us from being a statistic. It amazes me how many people cant do that.
To counter your argument, I submit the story of Typhoid Mary. If you're not familiar with her, she was the one who was asymtomatic with typhoid fever, yet was able to infect roughly 50something other people with it, 3 of whom died of it. It took them a while to find her, including quarantining her twice, even though she showed absolutely zero signs of having typhoid fever herself. So while she showed no signs of it, she had it, was a carrier of it, and was able to transmit that virus to other people, who died from it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon
The point here: just because you think you are healthy and able bodied does not mean you are immune or not susceptible to COVID, nor should that preclude you from wearing a mask. If anything, wearing a mask help you to protect others from catching it from someone who could be an asymtomatic carrier of it.
Hell, if we called for vigilance after 9/11 for people who may or may not be "terrorists", why should we not have the same vigilance for something that is a threat to our lives? Besides, we're bowlers and as such, we bowl on different oil patterns; we're used to fighting an invisible enemy. What should make our reaction to COVID any different?
BL.
This is a good argument you bring up. But that brings up my point on the social distancing. Even if you are asymptomatic. If you keep your distance, you wont spread it. It really is that simple. The numbers started to spike again at the same time people just had to go out and protest. So to your point, and a valid one. You get someone who feels perfectly fine and they are a carrier and they go out and protest with thousands of other people, they just probably infected most of those people. Now you have a snowball affect and you see the numbers where they are.
My apologies guys. I know this got off on a tangent. Regarding the original post. Good decision by the USBC. While I know it was a very difficult one to make. It was the right one. Optimistic that everything will calm down and get back to some normalcy for 2021.
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Deaths rates have totally fallen. They are just testing more people.
The tests are garbage as the virus has never been isolated or proven to cause anything. Lots of dead people in NYC from panic medicine and putting them on ventilators for no reason.
I can't believe this fear mongering is still going on. People prefer to see civilization collapse than face a common cold virus.
You might be the dumbest person I’ve ever encountered on this site and that’s a mighty accomplishment.
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Deaths rates have totally fallen. They are just testing more people.
The tests are garbage as the virus has never been isolated or proven to cause anything. Lots of dead people in NYC from panic medicine and putting them on ventilators for no reason.
I can't believe this fear mongering is still going on. People prefer to see civilization collapse than face a common cold virus.
You might be the dumbest person I’ve ever encountered on this site and that’s a mighty accomplishment.
Actually, they're testing less people, and this thing isn't going to go lay down come September. Like I've said, my tin foil hat is as big as anyone's, but I'm not stupid. This is going to have far reaching long lasting effects and people like you will be saying "Why didn't the government warn us??"
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"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens
Man......how we miss that dudes wisdom in these times.
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This is a good argument you bring up. But that brings up my point on the social distancing. Even if you are asymptomatic. If you keep your distance, you wont spread it. It really is that simple. The numbers started to spike again at the same time people just had to go out and protest. So to your point, and a valid one. You get someone who feels perfectly fine and they are a carrier and they go out and protest with thousands of other people, they just probably infected most of those people. Now you have a snowball affect and you see the numbers where they are.
My apologies guys. I know this got off on a tangent. Regarding the original post. Good decision by the USBC. While I know it was a very difficult one to make. It was the right one. Optimistic that everything will calm down and get back to some normalcy for 2021.
The problem though, is that it doesn't have to be a one-to-many exposure for something like this to happen. With that, I also ask you this: Which would you rather have: $1 million upfront right now, or $.01 per day, doubled every day for 30 days?
The million in one day is what you'd get if one person was asymptomatic and hanging around people at a protest. the penny a day doubled every day for 30 days? By day 27, you're at roughly 670,000. By day 30, you're at 5.4 million. Swap those pennies for people who caught COVID from one asymptomatic person being in near contact - social distancing or otherwise - with 2 PEOPLE. Those 2 infect another 2, those 2 infect another 2, so on and so forth.
The point here is that the amount of people that you are nearby has nothing to do with it; if you're around the least number of people, you can not control who they are around, nor can they control what other people they are around. The laws of compounding and exponential growth beat you on that, and people either naively or ignorantly overlook or are unaware of that.
BL.
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This is a good argument you bring up. But that brings up my point on the social distancing. Even if you are asymptomatic. If you keep your distance, you wont spread it. It really is that simple. The numbers started to spike again at the same time people just had to go out and protest. So to your point, and a valid one. You get someone who feels perfectly fine and they are a carrier and they go out and protest with thousands of other people, they just probably infected most of those people. Now you have a snowball affect and you see the numbers where they are.
My apologies guys. I know this got off on a tangent. Regarding the original post. Good decision by the USBC. While I know it was a very difficult one to make. It was the right one. Optimistic that everything will calm down and get back to some normalcy for 2021.
The problem though, is that it doesn't have to be a one-to-many exposure for something like this to happen. With that, I also ask you this: Which would you rather have: $1 million upfront right now, or $.01 per day, doubled every day for 30 days?
The million in one day is what you'd get if one person was asymptomatic and hanging around people at a protest. the penny a day doubled every day for 30 days? By day 27, you're at roughly 670,000. By day 30, you're at 5.4 million. Swap those pennies for people who caught COVID from one asymptomatic person being in near contact - social distancing or otherwise - with 2 PEOPLE. Those 2 infect another 2, those 2 infect another 2, so on and so forth.
The point here is that the amount of people that you are nearby has nothing to do with it; if you're around the least number of people, you can not control who they are around, nor can they control what other people they are around. The laws of compounding and exponential growth beat you on that, and people either naively or ignorantly overlook or are unaware of that.
BL.
What about taking the $1,000,000 up front and having it double everyday for 30 days???? LOL!!!
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This is a good argument you bring up. But that brings up my point on the social distancing. Even if you are asymptomatic. If you keep your distance, you wont spread it. It really is that simple. The numbers started to spike again at the same time people just had to go out and protest. So to your point, and a valid one. You get someone who feels perfectly fine and they are a carrier and they go out and protest with thousands of other people, they just probably infected most of those people. Now you have a snowball affect and you see the numbers where they are.
My apologies guys. I know this got off on a tangent. Regarding the original post. Good decision by the USBC. While I know it was a very difficult one to make. It was the right one. Optimistic that everything will calm down and get back to some normalcy for 2021.
The problem though, is that it doesn't have to be a one-to-many exposure for something like this to happen. With that, I also ask you this: Which would you rather have: $1 million upfront right now, or $.01 per day, doubled every day for 30 days?
The million in one day is what you'd get if one person was asymptomatic and hanging around people at a protest. the penny a day doubled every day for 30 days? By day 27, you're at roughly 670,000. By day 30, you're at 5.4 million. Swap those pennies for people who caught COVID from one asymptomatic person being in near contact - social distancing or otherwise - with 2 PEOPLE. Those 2 infect another 2, those 2 infect another 2, so on and so forth.
The point here is that the amount of people that you are nearby has nothing to do with it; if you're around the least number of people, you can not control who they are around, nor can they control what other people they are around. The laws of compounding and exponential growth beat you on that, and people either naively or ignorantly overlook or are unaware of that.
BL.
What about taking the $1,000,000 up front and having it double everyday for 30 days???? LOL!!!
You'd simply take that and go into business buying a bowling alley. ;D
Seriously though, if you took the penny option, after that 30 days, you'd have $5,368,709.12 Now, if you replaced the amount with people and you being the penny and asymptomatic, you'd potentially infect 5,368,709 people. currently, that's roughly the entire population of Las Vegas, and that's in a month. And that's just from being around 2 people that catch this virus from someone asymptomatic.
Deaths rates have totally fallen. They are just testing more people.
The tests are garbage as the virus has never been isolated or proven to cause anything. Lots of dead people in NYC from panic medicine and putting them on ventilators for no reason.
I can't believe this fear mongering is still going on. People prefer to see civilization collapse than face a common cold virus.
Time to once again call you out on this. provide evidence for everything you say here. In short, put up, or shut the hell up, because everything you are saying here is an absolute crock.
BL.
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This reminds me of an old saying. Reading something on the internet that offends you and feeling the need to respond is like seeing dog poop on the sidewalk and choosing to step in it. You are being trolled my friends.
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This reminds me of an old saying. Reading something on the internet that offends you and feeling the need to respond is like seeing dog poop on the sidewalk and choosing to step in it. You are being trolled my friends.
This site is in serious need of a "Like" button. ;D
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This was a very interesting discussion. I think it addresses some concerns over my statements. The Highwire is my first go to place for health information in this crazy world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5meH2iAjIU&t=2164s
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Does anyone know the percentage of the population that has contracted this...20%, 30%?
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Does anyone know the percentage of the population that has contracted this...20%, 30%?
Based on confirmed cases:
1% of the US population
0.1% of the global population
No telling what the actual numbers really are
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How can that possibly be true? A virus that has been spreading like wildfire for the past 8 or 9 months and 1% of the US population has contracted it?
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331,000,000 people in the US
3,680,000 confirmed cases in the US
It didn't start in the US until Feb 2020, so 3.68M cases in 5 months
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Based on the number of asymptomatic cases some experts think the US case could be 10 times higher.
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It's been here longer than February because I know someone that had it in late October and someone else that had it in early November. Thanks for the numbers, I was more interested in the actual numbers and not in unfounded guesses. Watching the coverage I had the impression it was far more widespread than that.
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It's been here longer than February because I know someone that had it in late October and someone else that had it in early November. Thanks for the numbers, I was more interested in the actual numbers and not in unfounded guesses. Watching the coverage I had the impression it was far more widespread than that.
We were having a severe flu season to begin with. Worst since 2017-18.
Link to CDC’s number on last several years of flu statistics
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html
Estimates for 2017-18 are 61,000 deaths, 45,000,000 infected (symptomatic).
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Wow, it’s almost like I said this would happen. Wait a minute...........where are the infectious disease experts on this site ?
You almost did. Short of the attempts to inflate the numbers. CDC is just short of including online contact as a positive case.
Don't forget if you think you are sick or test positive stay home and quarantine.
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It's been here longer than February because I know someone that had it in late October and someone else that had it in early November. Thanks for the numbers, I was more interested in the actual numbers and not in unfounded guesses. Watching the coverage I had the impression it was far more widespread than that.
It had to be here before March. People fly. It goes around the world quickly. Therefore, if we look at numbers, the immediate rise in deaths had to be from lockdown, not virus. No virus is going to be around, do nothing, then suddenly kill tens of thousands, then stop killing and just "infect" millions of asymptomtic "cases."
This makes no sense.
https://ibrahimtaher.com/covid19-a-perfect-tool-for-expanding-the-global-authoritarian-technocracy/
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What was not mentioned in this release is USBC is pulling "certified" from their coaches and going to trained. They are also pulling find a coach from the website. More budget cuts from revenue loss are likely to continue in the fall.
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Lockdown will turn United States into essentially a 3rd world nation. Tens of millions in poverty will not be good for bowling, or USBC. Hard to go bowling when you have no job b/c it was too dangerous to exist due to the fact that people breathe.
Expect to see vastly accelerated decline of bowling. Hopefully it will be able to survive to some degree. Some states may become bowling free zones as governors such as Newsom and Cuomo will not rest until they destroy all joy and beauty in their states and reduce their citizens to jobless beggars dependent on state handouts.
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If Covid-type lockdown procedures were put into place when AIDS first came to public attention (and those of us old enough remember the panic at the time) until an AIDS vaccine was created, we'd still be in lockdown 40-some years later.
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There is a big difference between how HIV (AIDs) and Covid -19 are contracted.
HIV is not an airborne disease. One cannot catch it from a sneeze, or a cough. With Covid -19 you can. The primary method of transmission of HIV from one person to another is through sexual intercourse, followed by the exchange of bodily fluiids directly into the bloodstream. That's not likely to happen on a crowded beach, or inside a bar or restaurant crowded with people. However, with Covid-19, the evidence
is showing that when folks don't practice social distancing guidelines, the number of Covid-19 cases skyrockets. There is a big, big difference between these two diseases.
Also, even during the height of the AIDs epidemic, hospitals were not overrun with AIDs patients as they are now with Covid-19. We didn't see scores of refrigerated trucks being brought in to act as temporary morgues. But we are certainly seeing that now with the coronavirus.
In addition, there is no comparison between the sheer number of Americans who are dying from the coronavirus than have ever died from AIDs. For example, the Centers For Disease Control (CDC) reported that in 2018, close to 13,000 Americans known to have been diagnosed with AIDs died. It is uncertain how many of this number had actually died from AIDs itself. However, even if we assume that all of them died as a direct result from AIDs, that number, as tragic as it is, pales in comparison to the number of Americans that are projected to die in 2020 of Covid-19, which currently stands to be in excess of 200,000 lives. That's quite a big difference (13, 000 v 200, 000+).
Also,when the AIDs epidemic began, there was a lockdown of sorts. Bathhouses were off limits. Elective surgeries were temporarily halted until the nation's blood supplies were deemed safe. People were urged to avoid any activities known to increase the risk of catching AIDs. Unfortunately with Covid-19, the general population is at a much higher risk of becoming infected due to its much higher degree of transmissibility.
I too, am "dying" to get back to bowling but I'm not willing to become infected with this virus and risking passing it onto my family and friends. That would be a much worse death. We are still learning about this terrible disease as time goes on, but in the meantime, the evidence across the country shows that when we practice social distancing, wear our masks when in public, the rate of infections goes down. It's not perfect, but until we get a vaccine and effective therapies to better fight it, we are stuck with what we know is working so far.
If we are concerned about the future of our local bowling establishments and our economy in general, as we all should be, we need to heed the advice to the medical professionals. The sooner that folks come to understand this, the quicker we can return to SOME semblance of normalcy. Otherwise, the deaths will continue to explode, our hosipals will be overrun with Covid-19 patients and more businesses will be forced to close.
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You're applying today's knowledge of AIDS but back then Time and Newsweek were touting that anyone could catch it and it was going to spread like wildfire. The panic and hype were similar, when adjusted for how much more media we have today. There was barely even a CNN at the time.
You make some very Doomsday claims but the numbers posted earlier do not support your claims. The mobile hospitals and refrigerated morgue trucks were created (at great expense) but were never put into use. McCormick Place in Chicago, for example, was converted into a triage hospital but never served one patient.
But you missed my point, which was that if you're waiting for a vaccine to return to normal you may very well sill be waiting in lockdown 40 or more years from now.
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MJS you are spot on. We could die from about 10000 different things every day. I’m not living in a bubble hoping to not get something. I will take adequate measures but I’m going to continue to live my life.
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I'm OK w/no Reno this year.
Though the stadium is my favorite venue to bowl, I'm OK with no Reno. The flight from the eastern part of the country takes forever when layovers are factored in.
It is what it is. See you all in Vegas.