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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #106 on: April 25, 2018, 01:11:17 PM »
How much to add into league dues per week to pay the salary of referees on pairs to enforce spot fouls on two handers not "applying extra spin" with off hand?

Referee: (blows whistle, flashes yellow card) FOUL!

I love bowler logic.

Hence removing the "off hand" once passing the hip.

I love people who only read part of something.

It's no different than a bowler calling out another bowler for adding surface during a match, or using their opposite hand for a delivery. It happens.


Some day, this kid will bowl league, and by Belmo's law of letting kids bowl how they want, we should let it go, even when he's 36:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xY_5UmpEDQ



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« Last Edit: April 25, 2018, 01:22:05 PM by tommygn »
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #107 on: April 25, 2018, 01:23:23 PM »
But who would enforce the "foul" and how would infractions be enforced? In your theoretical, will it be someone at the line? Looking from the side view? From the front view? High Speed 60FPS Cameras? And what about two handers that use the thumb? Is it really that much of an advantage keeping the extra hand on it for another step or two? What about two handers that only have a 350 rev rate?

Ohh.....wait, I get it. These "two hander rules" are only for those that rev it more than the average joe. Gotcha. Maybe we should ban guys that use one hand that can put 550-600 rpms on it too?

We must scale back that power these kids are putting on the ball, and get them in tweener hell where the haters dwell!! LOL.

It's not about "reading half of something", it's about the silliness of illogical rules and theories based in Belmo/Jesper's world-beater image with no practical application in real life.

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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #108 on: April 25, 2018, 01:36:03 PM »
Bowlers are the biggest pussies on earth. My god, I swear some of you sit down to piss and bleed once a month.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #109 on: April 25, 2018, 01:42:42 PM »
Just glad I'm not a PSO. We can't get our equipment plugged here-and-there over the next two years, because the 3oz static weight change doesn't go into effect until January 2020. With the "no hole" rule going into effect in August 2020, that means all plugging needs to get done in that Jan-Aug 2020 window. USBC has to be assuming that most people won't bother plugging current equipment.

The funniest thing about all of this is the USBC video which clearly states that these new rules are designed to maintain the integrity of the oil patterns. In my world, that means scores would go up. But what do I know.

On a positive note, I know the high schools in my area are always looking for donations of old balls that they'll plug and re-drill for their players. Something to consider as you are reevaluating your arsenal.

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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #110 on: April 25, 2018, 01:46:30 PM »

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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #111 on: April 25, 2018, 01:59:13 PM »

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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #112 on: April 25, 2018, 02:02:16 PM »
F IT ALL!  I QUIT!  :P  :P  :P  :P  ;D
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #113 on: April 25, 2018, 02:13:12 PM »
But who would enforce the "foul" and how would infractions be enforced? In your theoretical, will it be someone at the line? Looking from the side view? From the front view? High Speed 60FPS Cameras? And what about two handers that use the thumb? Is it really that much of an advantage keeping the extra hand on it for another step or two? What about two handers that only have a 350 rev rate?

Ohh.....wait, I get it. These "two hander rules" are only for those that rev it more than the average joe. Gotcha. Maybe we should ban guys that use one hand that can put 550-600 rpms on it too?

We must scale back that power these kids are putting on the ball, and get them in tweener hell where the haters dwell!! LOL.

It's not about "reading half of something", it's about the silliness of illogical rules and theories based in Belmo/Jesper's world-beater image with no practical application in real life.


In order for anything to EVER sell to corporate America, and be legitimized, it is a must that the product be identifiable as superior than anything else.

You cannot sell bowling to corporate America, when a 12 year old can do what a 25, or 35 year old can do. you cannot sell bowling when what you see on TV is what you see in league.

The day a high school soccer, football, basketball, baseball player, or golfer can beat seasoned veterans on a regular basis from the NFL, NBA, etc.. then I will digress.

This all ties into the league level, because you can't offer two completely different products on the recreational level, compared to the professional level. the pros just have to be that much better, at the same product. It would be like comparing basketball players on a 9 foot rim ,compared to standard 10 foot.

The issue is with people that don't think 5 mins beyond the here and now, and how it will affect the future.

but keep using your silly little memes to try and belittle my points, if that makes you feel better about yourself. Just shows lack of character on your part.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2018, 02:14:46 PM by tommygn »
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #114 on: April 25, 2018, 02:19:09 PM »
What is the effect on ball motion with up to 3 oz static AND an x-hole?  There are 7 months (including nationals) where that would be legal.

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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #115 on: April 25, 2018, 02:21:55 PM »
People will come up with other ways to do the same stuff.  Why not experiment and drill a bigger and fatter side hole deep into the core then fill it with a lighter plug material.  The core is dense, the filler may not be. just an idea.  I’m sure in 2 years lots of other concepts will come up.

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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #116 on: April 25, 2018, 02:23:15 PM »
What is the effect on ball motion with up to 3 oz static AND an x-hole?  There are 7 months (including nationals) where that would be legal.

That would be near impossible to get a hole big enough to create any real change in the core shape, unless you were to put the hole on the "wrong" side of the ball, which in my estimation, would be counter productive to how you would want to create spin, not to mention, would flare over the X hole.
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #117 on: April 25, 2018, 02:24:37 PM »
What is the effect on ball motion with up to 3 oz static AND an x-hole?  There are 7 months (including nationals) where that would be legal.
It’s not the side weight itself that will affect ball motion, but now you can drill a giant hole, remove a lot of core and not worry about 1 oz of negative weight.

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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #118 on: April 25, 2018, 02:28:48 PM »
#banweightblocks

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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #119 on: April 25, 2018, 02:38:55 PM »
#banweightblocks


....along with #standardizedconditions
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Re: USBC has done it. No weight holes 8/1/2020
« Reply #120 on: April 25, 2018, 02:51:23 PM »
My "lack of character" lies in the fact that I can't take this game serious anymore for a number of reasons. None having to do with the bowler one pair over that wants to throw it like Belmo or drill his ball up with the latest trick layout, and everything having to do with curmudgeons and their silly, non-progressive ideas to make the game as exciting as a funeral.

Bowling is the only sport where people want to penalize those with a superior skill set. Especially once athleticism is involved. In any other major sport if there was a 12 year old with some serious, raw natural ability that people could envision seeing as a pro someday the elders foster that talent, work them up through the system on a path to professionalism and make sure that they keep a love for the game. In bowling, it's old timers telling them

"Don't throw the ball like that"
"This is ruining the game"
"You won't be able to maintain that style when you get my age"

....basically everything to take the love out of what the kids like doing. I think it's awesome that the two handers learned how to "hack" the system and take the lane play advantage back from the left side. :D

At the end of the day, we're just talking revrates.
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