For all of those people who put P4 holes in your Venom Shock Pearl to make them roll better, sorry!

Lol. I just put a p3 hole in a ball that had been pretty marginal and it came to life. To be fair it was a test using a 5+" pin that could have been avoided by drilling stronger.

In all seriousness, I'm interested in what the oil absortion specs will actually change

For all of those people who put P4 holes in your Venom Shock Pearl to make them roll better, sorry!

Started to post something to that effect in that thread but held off so wasn't accused of being a chicken little.  The P4 in my Venom Shock solid makes that ball my first out of bag.  Highly doubt I ever plug it.  Funny thing you don't have to be sanctioned to enjoy bowling.

After all is said and done it will still come down to the bowler.  Can he hit his intended target and ball motion with some degree of consistency?  If so, he will be just fine.

Just as it is now, in 2020 we will be able to influence ball motion effectively with surface changes and some versatility from the bowler.   I know, I know... HERESY!!

For all of those people who put P4 holes in your Venom Shock Pearl to make them roll better, sorry!

damn bro

Quote from: Brandon Riley on April 24, 2018, 04:38:27 PM

Why are we caring so much about weight holes when its the change in oil absorbency that will make the greatest impact on our game?

The studies found that the weight hole could be used to increase the diff - in some instances, taking a .055 ball and making it .070 with proper size and placement of additional hole in the ball. That is why the weight hole issues is being addressed now.
I also believe there are no current production balls that "fail" the oil absorption test.
this will be an moving target for several years as they perfect the testing methods

The editor over at BTM (oh and he is a mechanical engineer who also designed the Blueprint ball simulation software) showed pretty convincingly how this rule change isn't going to have the intended effect.  Diff is only correlated with hook to a certain point.  Most .070 balls won't actually hook more than a .055.  Still didn't stop me from picking up a Visionary Immortal recently with a .078 diff undrilled just as a big FU to the USBC.  The heck of it is don't think my driller is going to need a balance hole for it with drilling I had in mind so it will be perfectly legal in late 2020 as well even though the diff may be pushing .1 drilled.  At least if they argued they are outlawing balance holes to decrease the intermediate diff after drilling to reduce angularity they might have an argument but not the one I heard they made.

Does anyone think scores might go up? Less transition, less moving around, etc

The actual factor in all of this is the coverstock oil absorption portion.  We have no reference as of now for what is or isn't in compliance to see where this will be when it goes in affect.  If everything today is in compliance then scores will not change. If we find out what is some out of compliance and what's barely in then we know what the limitations are.

That part is interesting

Top companies like storm, Ebinite, and Brunswick that have the $ to research won’t be affected as much as the lesser companies. Top companies will come up with a new technology to combat the oil absorption rule. They always do. They will still make hook monsters that are useless for my game. All I need is my hyroad,  label drill.

Just drilled a fresh hyroad hack, reacts totally different than my old benchmark hyroad. Much more reaction down lane, with much more overall hook. I think it’s because of the fresh polished cover. I’m sure it will calm down with some games on it. Not ready to retire the old one yet.

I hear ya.  Still the only duplicate ball I have ever bought.  Really like mine with the P4 (sorry deleted first message, got called out as being that guy who crap floods posts so touchy about that).  Odds are good I only bowl unsanctioned leagues than ever plug it but nice just in case to have a spare instead of plugging my favorite strike ball yet again.