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vkowalski1970

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The struggle to control the backend is real.....
« on: February 27, 2017, 09:29:49 PM »
So this whole year I have struggled controlling the backends at one of my houses. I have 20 degrees of tilt, 45-60 rotation, 350 revs and slow speed   13.5 mph off hand.
One the fresh Im fine, but as transition hits and things break down I get killed on the backend. No problems with the heads, just the back end.

Most of my stuff is drilled with 4-5 inch pin to paps. Ive played with surfaces and VAL positions and nothing really helps. Ive tried a 4 inch pin to pap with a P1 hole and still the same.

Im now thinking of maybe drilling a ball with a 2 inch pin to pap or less to try it.....thoughts?
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Re: The struggle to control the backend is real.....
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2017, 11:17:30 AM »
So this whole year I have struggled controlling the backends at one of my houses. I have 20 degrees of tilt, 45-60 rotation, 350 revs and slow speed   13.5 mph off hand.
One the fresh Im fine, but as transition hits and things break down I get killed on the backend. No problems with the heads, just the back end.

Most of my stuff is drilled with 4-5 inch pin to paps. Ive played with surfaces and VAL positions and nothing really helps. Ive tried a 4 inch pin to pap with a P1 hole and still the same.

Im now thinking of maybe drilling a ball with a 2 inch pin to pap or less to try it.....thoughts?

I'm reading this and saying, "What does this mean?" trying to control backends. What specifically are you trying to accomplish? I am rev-dominant and throw the ball at about the same speed.

Are the back-ends flying? Or is your equipment seemingly getting stronger the further into your set that you go?

What is your issue, or perceived issue?
Because of my tilt and rotation, I have no issue pushing the ball down lane and hardly ever fight the heads. the issue is as soon as I see friction, especially when things break down, the ball jerks left hard. There are so many shots that look great and at 55 ft seems to go crazy. I have always fought the issue but seems to be getting worse with the newer balls. Believe it or not I threw a friends Pyramid Blood Moon and the ball is so smooth it was money for me on this condition. It forced me right of where i normally am at that point and didnt jump at the sniff of friction. But they are discountinued. That why im thinking bout a short pin to pap ball to smooth the read of friction or slow the response

Thanks for your response. I am rev dominant, and routinely throw between 13-14 mph off my hand. I have had much success with two options.

1. Using a symmetrical, benchmark resin piece that pushes well, with a scuffed, surface adjustment using an old beat up 800 pad, usually no more than 10 seconds on all sides, and a RICO drilling.

2. And the other is just using an older, big piece with a surface adjustment of say, 3000-4000 abralon. The ball drilling has a larger val angle on it than I'd normally use, however.

Using polish I have found can be a cure or a cancer. Depending on your backends it can be PERFECT.....or you can get an over/under hell!

This is what works for me.
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