Author Topic: usbc sportshot crap (Read 19726 times)

tfav44 · « **on:** April 20, 2008, 05:12:34 AM »

is anyone else sick of the sportshot crap the usbc keeps shoving at us, I have read that league bowling membership is declining, iknow that this is true in my area. I live in mich. and the decline of the auto industry is having a huge impact on our leagues.Jobs, Money, and time are tight so guys are having to cut back. the usbc is basically ignoring normal house leagues and is pushing pba experience and sport leagues. the thing is we don't have the time and disposable income to devote to having all this extra equipment and practice time. everyone on my team averages over 200, we have all decided to cut back to once a week bowling. we tired of the usbc telling us that what we are doing doesn't measure up and for the "integrity of the game we should switch to a pba exp. league.
thats my rant
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trash heap · « **Reply #106 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:25:22 PM »

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Then, we blame him for NOT knowing the difference, call him names, run down his game, etc.

Jess,

Just trying to explain the difference is difficult. People usually get on the defensive right away.

I really think the USBC is going somewhat in the right direction, but it just doesn't make down to the local associations.

In the youth bowling...there is an association south of mine where they are getting it right. They are teaching these kids about tough conditions and encourage them to bowl on them. There are several High School teams also.

My association does nothing for the youth. They just let them bowl 3 games on Saturday and give some pointers. No exposure to the SPORT. Associations like mine are getting left in the DUST.

Jorge300 · « **Reply #107 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:28:59 PM »

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Jorge300

Sound like I pissed you off...Personal insults ?

I knew it wouldnt take much longer for you "bowling elites" !!!!

Sportshot cry-babies and whiners at their finest !

"Improve your skills"...ROFLMAO ! Just buy the latest hook monster ans your set!

Also I never said I hate the USBC,,I mean damn they ARE THE ONES that allow the soft THS conditions ! The can't be to bad ! Give me a soft shot, and you bet your azz I'm gonna exploit it !!!!!!!!!
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Please do not cry that the THS is to easy

Edited on 4/22/2008 2:19 PM

302, am I pissed off, not in the least, jsut tired of listening to drone on and on about things you seem to no nothing about. And I am by far not a bowling elite, I am a house hack, better then average, but still a house hack. But I have the desire to improve my game, and the fact that whiners and crybaby's like you keep centers from putting in more challenging conditions. I guess you just suck so bad nothing will help you so why let anyone else improve, huh? You are a joke, and people like you who think they are good because they bowl well on the easiest house pattern make me laugh. I bet you average 160-170 at Nationals when you get to a real pattern. But to you that's ok, cause you know you'll get to go home to china and average 210 again. See what you fail to realize is that there is room for both THS and Sport patterns, but you won't allow the Sport patterns in to start with cause it might make you look bad, truth is you don't need that to make you look bad, your posts do a wonderful job of that all on their own.
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Jorge300 · « **Reply #108 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:33:48 PM »

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I'm just curious, how old are the sport and pba experience guys . because they seem to alot of time and money to spend bowling. married, kids, careers, homes????ect. and they make it sound like every joker who picks up all ball is shooting 700 or better, week in and week out on the crown pattern (ths). the sport guys should only throw white dots. now there's a challenge.
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Tfav, I am in my late 30's, married with a son. I have a very nice house that I pay on every month and have been with my company 10 years which has taken me from the NE, to the West Coast and now to the South. I have averaged 230+ in every region I bowled over the last 5-6 years and I still know I have much to learn and basically am nothing more then an above average house hack. I want the chance to bowl on SPort conditions to improve my game and get better, even if it means I average 180-190 at the beginning. I am not too proud to have my average drop unlike others on this site who would rather take their overinflated averages along with their overinflated egos and believe they are God's gift to bowling and this site.

And I don't buy every ball that comes out, only the one or two that I know will help my game, fill in gaps in my arsenal, or replace a ball that is worn out.
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JessN16 · « **Reply #109 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:35:16 PM »

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Jess,

Just trying to explain the difference is difficult. People usually get on the defensive right away.

I really think the USBC is going somewhat in the right direction, but it just doesn't make down to the local associations.

In the youth bowling...there is an association south of mine where they are getting it right. They are teaching these kids about tough conditions and encourage them to bowl on them. There are several High School teams also.

My association does nothing for the youth. They just let them bowl 3 games on Saturday and give some pointers. No exposure to the SPORT. Associations like mine are getting left in the DUST.

That's the biggest problem the USBC has: Lack of consistent effort on the part of the local associations, which is critical to the success of the organization.

I've said for years that lack of volunteerism is killing the sport. I saw it firsthand when I served as an association president for two years. I had a group of five guys that would walk through fire if I asked it, but no one else did anything, even if asked.

You have to treat bowling like it's church: Face-to-face recruiting is the only thing that works. You also have to be open to splitting up your teams and taking newcomers onto your team so they don't feel overwhelmed. How many times do we put all the newbies together, they get destroyed, and then they quit?

Jorge300 has it right in that there is room for both sport and THS bowling under the USBC umbrella. But there are some in this thread who believe it should be sport only. That simply will not work.

It will also not work if the local USBC groups continue to sit around with their thumbs stuck up their butts.

Jess

302efi · « **Reply #110 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:35:39 PM »

Thats okay Jorge300 since you didnt bother to read my posts before you jumped in I'll fill you in.

I avg 192 on last season PBAX league.
I cashed at my last South-Eastern reg I bowled in
Work isnt going to let me go to nations this year.

You keep saying I'm the reason the centers keep the easy shots, why don't you have USBC change them ?

Tell Brunswick or AMF to soften up the shots in there house and lose money...I'd like to see that one !

I know the difference between where I'm bowling and what I'm bowling on, do you ?
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Please do not cry that the THS is to easy

Jorge300 · « **Reply #111 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:47:41 PM »

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Thats okay Jorge300 since you didnt bother to read my posts before you jumped in I'll fill you in.

Well excuuuuuuuuse me! Of course not, I can only read so much stuff written like a 5th grader, so most of yours got passed by.

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I avg 192 on last season PBAX league.

Feel good that you have the chance to do that, I don't.

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I cashed at my last South-Eastern reg I bowled in

I have cashed in over 50% of the regionals I have bowled in, so what?!?

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Work isnt going to let me go to nations this year.

/= that's me playing the world's smallest violin for you. I have been there as have many others, I got a new job that allowed me to take vacation and go, you can do that too or quit complaining.

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You keep saying I'm the reason the centers keep the easy shots, why don't you have USBC change them ?

Tell Brunswick or AMF to soften up the shots in there house and lose money...I'd like to see that one !

Yes, you and people like you that complain about the Sport Patterns and PBA Experiecne leagues. The USBC is trying to change it, yet you are complaining about it, you can't have it both ways. Is Sport bowling/PBA experience leagues the saving grace of bowling, no, a lot more has to be done, but it is a start in the right direction. The only reason a house would lose money is because whining babies like you will quit if you can't average 210 anymore, even though your skills are only 180-190 or less.

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I know the difference between where I'm bowling and what I'm bowling on, do you ?

Ummm WTF does that mean?

Another retarded comment from 302, my fault for expecting something more.

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strikealot · « **Reply #112 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:47:53 PM »

302 why complain about something that will make you better...and if you dont want to get better then dont bowl on that condition...let the rest of us who want to improve continue to do so...
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302efi · « **Reply #113 on:** April 22, 2008, 02:57:27 PM »

I'm not complaining at all !

Thank you USBC for your saving graces of the THS you allow us paying memebers to bowl on !

...and Jorge, as for not going to Nationals, I could care less.

Congrats on your new job, I didnt know Micky D's gave vactions that early after starting?

You know if the military actually gave me paid leave so I could go bowling, that would be your tax money at work and play !

F#cking sport-bowling !!!..You gotta be kidding !

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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Please do not cry that the THS is to easy

Edited on 4/22/2008 2:58 PM

trash heap · « **Reply #114 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:02:50 PM »

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Find me one place where the USBC says that regular house shots lower bowling integrity and your achievements don't measure up.

http://www.bowl.com/sportbowling/whatis.aspx

On USBC Website:

Sport Bowling consists of leagues and tournament that are conducted on challenging lane conditions. The program, in its most basic form, is an opportunity for all bowlers to determine their true skills in such areas as accuracy, consistency, the ability to read lanes, and spare shooting skills to have success rather than rely on today's high-tech equipment or forgiving lane patterns to achieve high honor awards.

It is a level of competition (including the PBA experience leagues) embraced by bowlers who are seeking a greater challenge and to base their level of success directly on their skills.

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That pretty much states it!

zerorev · « **Reply #115 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:10:01 PM »

I see your center has no fun leagues. I find it hard to believe considering the game of bowling is more popular then ever while the sport of bowling is dying. Your proprietor must not like to make money. Why should we care about the PBA well why should anyone care about the NBA, MLB, or NFL? I mean none of the people I know that follow these sports will ever have a shot of playing at the highest level so why follow? What do these organization do for their fans aside from take their money? The reason they follow is that they like to see superior athletes compete at a superior level and they become attached. Just like in the 70's thru late 80's people had a favorite bowler and realized that the level they were on was something they probably would never reach. Because they could not do the same things that bowler could do. Now any joe schmoe can shoot a high set or "honor" score and all of sudden what the pros are doing loses its merit. And yes anyone can shoot a high score or set nowadays with advances in technology and softer conditions practice is no longer needed. Believe it or not most of the people involved with the USBC and your local association do care about the sport of bowling and bringing respect to it.

Jorge300 · « **Reply #116 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:11:39 PM »

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I'm not complaining at all !

Thank you USBC for your saving graces of the THS you allow us paying memebers to bowl on !

...and Jorge, as for not going to Nationals, I could care less.

Congrats on your new job, I didnt know Micky D's gave vactions that early after starting?

You know if the military actually gave me paid leave so I could go bowling, that would be your tax money at work and play !

F#cking sport-bowling !!!..You gotta be kidding !
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Please do not cry that the THS is to easy

Edited on 4/22/2008 2:58 PM

All you do is complain 302. I figured out what your name stands for 30 = your IQ, 2 = your mental age.

And as far as the my job, I guess you can't read either since I posted to Tfav I have been with my company over 10 years...and as far as McDonald's goes, at least they would hire me, you'd get rejected over and over again.

See again showing I am right with my assessment, you have the brain of of child.....keep the comments coming, its fun to show everyone just how unintelligent you are....not that's it hard you do most of it on your own, but fun nonetheless.
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302efi · « **Reply #117 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:19:19 PM »

All your "intelligent" posts, do nothing. YOU can't change where bowling is at and all you can do type out your furstation.

So if theres a winner and loser in all this, I win

THS still dominates USBC leagues and "sport" bowling is just a mere shadow.

When I shoot the next 300, prob next week, on the last shot I'll just close my eyes and say this ones for good ole' Jorge

Good luck and good bowling !

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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

strikealot · « **Reply #118 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:23:19 PM »

it would be like the pga playing on par 3 courses everyweek....im sure they would love that...ths is nice but bowling on different conditions is much better...all you are trying to do is piss people of through your ignorance so continue now...
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Jorge300 · « **Reply #119 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:26:24 PM »

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All your "intelligent" posts, do nothing. YOU can't change where bowling is at and all you can do type out your furstation.

So if theres a winner and loser in all this, I win

THS still dominates USBC leagues and "sport" bowling is just a mere shadow.

When I shoot the next 300, prob next week, on the last shot I'll just close my eyes and say this ones for good ole' Jorge

Good luck and good bowling !
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quote:
I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

Nope you are and always will be a loser....nuff said.

Oh by the way, a 300 series isn't anything to get all that worked up over, but I guess when we are talking you, it is pretty good, keep trying, you'll get that series total up soon.
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302efi · « **Reply #120 on:** April 22, 2008, 03:26:45 PM »

strikealot, wheres the ignorance ?

I bowl on what the USBC allows to be bowled on, no ?

The USBC is the over-seeing body of all this, so where am I in the wrong ? They(USBC) mandates the shot, am I wrong for bowling on it ?
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I will head to my local pro shop. Right after I buy it online.

Sport Bowling is a F**king joke

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