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Title: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: johns811 on September 16, 2019, 11:12:46 AM
I've been off regular league bowling for 2 years but back this season. Last couple seasons average dropped below 200 :(. 100% due to bad performance. This year unless the lanes change radically or my ball dies or cracks in half I plan on using the same ball all year every game. An old low game AMF TNT I think, it has the blem Bonanza logo. The ball is very smooth and reacts predictable on over/under house shot.  I want to focus on adjusting and making good shots than constantly switch balls. It's a trio league, the lanes don't transition much and the house shot is fresh every week. Sometimes I think constantly trying different balls when I'm not bowling well compounds the problem.  Not counting spare ball for 10 pins.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: Jesse James on September 16, 2019, 02:38:53 PM
Kudos to you, and good luck!

You are a Pro Shop's nightmare!! LOL! :) ;)
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on September 16, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Gems can be so good on house shot.  In very similar boat (triples league also) but league shot on light side so just picked up a Morich Mojave to basically do the same thing.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: avabob on September 16, 2019, 05:13:04 PM
I think it could be a big help to try the one ball approach.  Usually there are lots of options to play a house shot.  Find a ball that you feel is versatile, and work on making adjustments to keep you consistently in the pocket.   
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: bowling_rebel on September 16, 2019, 11:43:21 PM
Well, if it's a trio league and the lanes aren't getting blown apart by guys with 400+ rev rates, it's only a THS.

Ball companies and pro shops need to sell balls, so we have all this marketing as if people are bowling on a variety of changing conditions, when that is not the case.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: johns811 on September 17, 2019, 11:14:05 AM
Kudos to you, and good luck!

You are a Pro Shop's nightmare!! LOL! :) ;)

That is pretty funny considering I have my own drill.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: rvmark on September 17, 2019, 08:01:04 PM
Good for you, I throw a Track Tundra with my plastic for spares, have other balls rarely see enough oil to throw them with the exception of PBA league this summer.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: mrwizerd on September 18, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
Not a bad idea, it would definitely make the trip in & out of the bowling alley easier.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: Gene J Kanak on September 18, 2019, 09:42:28 AM
I think it's a neat idea to try just going with one ball in order to work on your game more. However, there are a couple of things you have to keep in mind:

1) Team impact. If this were a singles match-play league or something, you'd have nothing to worry about here. However, since you have teammates, it's probably good form to tell them of your plans and see how they feel about it since your approach could impact the team standings, which = money, bragging rights, etc. Hopefully they're all for it, but it's probably best to at least ask them first.

2) League complaints - If you start off doing this, are unhappy and then switch back to using other balls, some in the league may look at what you're doing as sandbagging. I wanted to do something similar years back, so I started using plastic as my only ball. Obviously, that made me have to be very accurate and creative in order to get the ball to hit. Some people were furious because of the impact of plastic on the pattern, and others thought it was an attempt at bagging even though I averaged over 200 while doing it. In any event, again, you may have to commit to doing this for the entire season in order to avoid such talk/accusations.

In the end, you're the bowler, so as long as you're not doing this with some ulterior motive, you should be free to use whatever ball or balls you want in order to work on improving your game. I applaud you for doing so, but I wanted to throw those things out there as food for thought. Good luck no matter how you decide to proceed!
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: leftybowler70 on September 18, 2019, 09:54:47 AM
Gene, well said for him to consider those factors, as I too have encountered these situations in the past. Well explained!!!
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: avabob on September 18, 2019, 10:45:01 AM
I am an old geezer, but I totally understand and have embraced the necessity of having an arsenal of balls for multiple patterns in a tournament environment.  Having said that. I cant remember the last time I derived any benefit from having more than one ball on a house shot .   
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on September 18, 2019, 02:45:14 PM
Someone should form a league where bowlers declare which ball (and a spare ball, to help for the corner pins) and agree that only those two can be used every game all season long.  I'd sign up in a heartbeat for the fun and challenge.

The end result would be bowlers becoming more versatile with releases and speed etc, which would help us all.  On our Tuesday night league there are so many bags everywhere you can't walk anywhere without feeling like you're an on an obstacle course. 

I've said it before, but I hope my opponent brings 6 balls with him and uses every one of them.  It usually guarantees that I will get my share of points.


Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: SVstar34 on September 18, 2019, 03:56:13 PM
Someone should form a league where bowlers declare which ball (and a spare ball, to help for the corner pins) and agree that only those two can be used every game all season long.  I'd sign up in a heartbeat for the fun and challenge.

The end result would be bowlers becoming more versatile with releases and speed etc, which would help us all.  On our Tuesday night league there are so many bags everywhere you can't walk anywhere without feeling like you're an on an obstacle course. 

I've said it before, but I hope my opponent brings 6 balls with him and uses every one of them.  It usually guarantees that I will get my share of points.




There's been a 16 game tournament ran twice in Vegas so far that's 1 ball + spare ball. They've done two 8 game blocks with 2 different patterns. Decide in practice which ball you'll use for the 8 games. I've wanted to bowl the event but the timing didn't work out for me.

I think it'd be tough to say you have to stick with 1 ball for an entire season. I think 1 ball after practice would work the best. I'd do a summer league if it was plastic only or have-a-ball league that everyone had to use the same ball
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: avabob on September 18, 2019, 04:15:24 PM
I bowled a 2 ball tourney on AZ a couple years ago.  Picked my Phase 2 in practice but wasn't sure what else I wanted so I picked my pitch blue for spares
  Lost my look with the Phase with about 3 games to go.  Ended up going to the corner with the Pitch Blue and got second.  I bowled well but would not have finished that high if I had guessed wrong on the second choice and gone with plastic
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: milorafferty on September 18, 2019, 04:56:46 PM
Someone should form a league where bowlers declare which ball (and a spare ball, to help for the corner pins) and agree that only those two can be used every game all season long.  I'd sign up in a heartbeat for the fun and challenge.

The end result would be bowlers becoming more versatile with releases and speed etc, which would help us all.  On our Tuesday night league there are so many bags everywhere you can't walk anywhere without feeling like you're an on an obstacle course. 

I've said it before, but I hope my opponent brings 6 balls with him and uses every one of them.  It usually guarantees that I will get my share of points.




EA Bowl in Dublin CA has a same ball league in the summer. Everyone uses the same ball and it's provided by the league for a reduced price. Usually it's some discontinued or about to be discontinued Brunswick(Including Radical, DV8) ball. One ball, no plastic for spares either.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on September 19, 2019, 12:21:05 AM
Yep looks like the MOjave is going to be that ball for me in the dry house. What a gem that ball is. Amazing carry and consistency and doesnt require many moves during the night.  Keep it simple stupid for me.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: spmcgivern on September 19, 2019, 07:52:41 AM
Someone should form a league where bowlers declare which ball (and a spare ball, to help for the corner pins) and agree that only those two can be used every game all season long.  I'd sign up in a heartbeat for the fun and challenge.

The end result would be bowlers becoming more versatile with releases and speed etc, which would help us all.  On our Tuesday night league there are so many bags everywhere you can't walk anywhere without feeling like you're an on an obstacle course. 

I've said it before, but I hope my opponent brings 6 balls with him and uses every one of them.  It usually guarantees that I will get my share of points.




EA Bowl in Dublin CA has a same ball league in the summer. Everyone uses the same ball and it's provided by the league for a reduced price. Usually it's some discontinued or about to be discontinued Brunswick(Including Radical, DV8) ball. One ball, no plastic for spares either.

Don't even want to think how difficult this would be at the ball return.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: mrwizerd on September 19, 2019, 08:12:46 AM
Someone should form a league where bowlers declare which ball (and a spare ball, to help for the corner pins) and agree that only those two can be used every game all season long.  I'd sign up in a heartbeat for the fun and challenge.

The end result would be bowlers becoming more versatile with releases and speed etc, which would help us all.  On our Tuesday night league there are so many bags everywhere you can't walk anywhere without feeling like you're an on an obstacle course. 

I've said it before, but I hope my opponent brings 6 balls with him and uses every one of them.  It usually guarantees that I will get my share of points.




EA Bowl in Dublin CA has a same ball league in the summer. Everyone uses the same ball and it's provided by the league for a reduced price. Usually it's some discontinued or about to be discontinued Brunswick(Including Radical, DV8) ball. One ball, no plastic for spares either.

Don't even want to think how difficult this would be at the ball return.

Between different colored finger inserts & thumb slugs, switch grips, and layouts, I don't think it would be too bad.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on September 19, 2019, 01:08:21 PM

What I was hoping for is for the bowler to pick ANY ball they want and use it all the time, not that everyone used the same ball.

Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: milorafferty on September 19, 2019, 01:12:31 PM

What I was hoping for is for the bowler to pick ANY ball they want and use it all the time, not that everyone used the same ball.



So who keeps track of who is using what ball? Someone would have to check against a list, right? Every week?

Sounds like a major pain in the ass. And if their ball cracks and is older and can't be replaced? How would that be handled?

Your idea sounds like a league officer nightmare to run.  ;D
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on September 19, 2019, 01:59:56 PM
milo,

I guess my idea assumes bowlers have an ounce of integrity, and would join such league for a challenge.

Everything is a potential nightmare with bowlers that whine about things that may, or may not, happen.
 
If a ball cracks deal with it.  If a bowler gets hurt trying to make Ball A do something it can't do, you deal with it.
 
Every league has a board of directors (comprised of team captains) that can meet for 3 minutes and handle things.



 

Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: milorafferty on September 19, 2019, 03:08:23 PM
Sorry Lane, you and I seem to know different bowlers.  :o ;D
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on September 20, 2019, 08:28:46 AM

It's okay.  Santa and the Easter Bunny still exist here... ;)
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: johns811 on October 25, 2019, 11:03:59 AM
Someone should form a league where bowlers declare which ball (and a spare ball, to help for the corner pins) and agree that only those two can be used every game all season long.  I'd sign up in a heartbeat for the fun and challenge.

The end result would be bowlers becoming more versatile with releases and speed etc, which would help us all.  On our Tuesday night league there are so many bags everywhere you can't walk anywhere without feeling like you're an on an obstacle course. 

I've said it before, but I hope my opponent brings 6 balls with him and uses every one of them.  It usually guarantees that I will get my share of points.




EA Bowl in Dublin CA has a same ball league in the summer. Everyone uses the same ball and it's provided by the league for a reduced price. Usually it's some discontinued or about to be discontinued Brunswick(Including Radical, DV8) ball. One ball, no plastic for spares either.

Don't even want to think how difficult this would be at the ball return.

Between different colored finger inserts & thumb slugs, switch grips, and layouts, I don't think it would be too bad.

I bowled with on my dads team one night, 10 yellow dots on the rack. All 10 same ball.
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on October 25, 2019, 11:34:35 AM
Someone should form a league where bowlers declare which ball (and a spare ball, to help for the corner pins) and agree that only those two can be used every game all season long.  I'd sign up in a heartbeat for the fun and challenge.

The end result would be bowlers becoming more versatile with releases and speed etc, which would help us all.  On our Tuesday night league there are so many bags everywhere you can't walk anywhere without feeling like you're an on an obstacle course. 

I've said it before, but I hope my opponent brings 6 balls with him and uses every one of them.  It usually guarantees that I will get my share of points.




EA Bowl in Dublin CA has a same ball league in the summer. Everyone uses the same ball and it's provided by the league for a reduced price. Usually it's some discontinued or about to be discontinued Brunswick(Including Radical, DV8) ball. One ball, no plastic for spares either.

Don't even want to think how difficult this would be at the ball return.

Between different colored finger inserts & thumb slugs, switch grips, and layouts, I don't think it would be too bad.

I bowled with on my dads team one night, 10 yellow dots on the rack. All 10 same ball.

Were any of them Bleeders? 
Title: Re: Using 1 ball all season
Post by: johns811 on October 25, 2019, 12:04:05 PM
Someone should form a league where bowlers declare which ball (and a spare ball, to help for the corner pins) and agree that only those two can be used every game all season long.  I'd sign up in a heartbeat for the fun and challenge.

The end result would be bowlers becoming more versatile with releases and speed etc, which would help us all.  On our Tuesday night league there are so many bags everywhere you can't walk anywhere without feeling like you're an on an obstacle course. 

I've said it before, but I hope my opponent brings 6 balls with him and uses every one of them.  It usually guarantees that I will get my share of points.




EA Bowl in Dublin CA has a same ball league in the summer. Everyone uses the same ball and it's provided by the league for a reduced price. Usually it's some discontinued or about to be discontinued Brunswick(Including Radical, DV8) ball. One ball, no plastic for spares either.

Don't even want to think how difficult this would be at the ball return.

Between different colored finger inserts & thumb slugs, switch grips, and layouts, I don't think it would be too bad.

I bowled with on my dads team one night, 10 yellow dots on the rack. All 10 same ball.

Were any of them Bleeders? 

Mine is