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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: rico4life on June 10, 2016, 04:28:00 PM

Title: vertex ball spinner
Post by: rico4life on June 10, 2016, 04:28:00 PM
I was thinking about buying the 1/3 hp model directly from vertex, has anyone bought one of these recently, seems cheaper to order from them than a online proshop?
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: Dave81644 on June 10, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
where ever you can get best price
make sure it includes shipping
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: spencerwatts on June 10, 2016, 05:52:42 PM
One of the best investments I made in my return to bowling.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: xrayjay on June 10, 2016, 07:09:49 PM
Mines About 10 years and still using original belt... I have an extra belt , but I doubt I'll need it any time soon..and for home purposes, 1/2 is over kill.. But that's how I think...
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: charlest on June 10, 2016, 07:20:41 PM
Like xrayjay, I've had mine (1/2 hp) for so long that I've lost track; must be 13 - 15 years or so.
Had one problem when it was out of warranty; I sent it to them, they fixed it, didn't charge me and shipped it back free (from Michigan to NJ is not cheap for this size package).

I keep wondering when I'll have to replace but, like the Energizer bunny, it keeps on going and going and going. Can't kill it with a stick.

Small wonder they're still guaranteed even if you use it in a pro shop!! (At least it used to be; not sure now that they've been bought by Innovative.)
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: Plowboy300 on June 11, 2016, 10:35:36 AM
I have had my 1/3 HP Vertex for over 10 years and still working fine with zero problems... I clean mine after every 2-3 uses... I think if you don't keep it cleaned, that is where you develop problems as I have a few other friends that have had their less than mine that never clean or maintain there spinners...

Hope this helps & good luck!
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: SG17 on June 11, 2016, 11:10:58 AM
I have had mine around 8 years.

has been very reliable, I resurface all my own equipment and allow a couple buddies to do theirs and my vertex has been rock solid the entire time
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: leftybowler70 on June 11, 2016, 11:57:30 AM
As mentioned above, I've had my 1/2 model for 7+ years and not a single issue, as one poster above mentioned, I've too wondered when I would have to replace mines as well, but it keeps trucking along.....

Money well spent.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: hammajangs on June 11, 2016, 01:09:34 PM
I don't have a vertex, but I got the 1/2 hp Innovative which I love.  i think they are comparable. 
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: St. Croix on June 11, 2016, 03:11:53 PM
I was thinking about buying the 1/3 hp model directly from vertex, has anyone bought one of these recently, seems cheaper to order from them than a online proshop?

Rico, get yourself a spinner. I have a 1/2 hp  Innovative (direct from the company) and love it.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: kidlost2000 on June 11, 2016, 07:26:09 PM
I bought a 1/2hp direct from vertex 2 years ago and it's still going great. 5 year warranty, free shipping, 6months no interest with paypal credit. (Which they accept on the website)

Enjoy your new spinner. Great investment.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: Bowlaholic on June 11, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
5+ years on the 1/2 h.p. Vertex without a single problem.  As stated a great investment.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: todvan on June 12, 2016, 07:03:07 AM
So I'm just curious, how often do you guys use your ball spinner?  Since the ball lane shines anyway after 3 games, I just hand clean/surface with scotch brite every week.  I'm wondering if spinning the ball makes a huge difference?
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: kidlost2000 on June 12, 2016, 08:58:20 AM
Depends on the ball and the amount of surface. For lower grits on bigger hooking equipment that's at say 500/1000 or 500/2000 usually after 6-9 games max.

On other bowling that aren't layered and usually left at say 2000 grit its closer to 15 games. Also depends in the number of bowling balls you have, and use. I take 6 for most big tournaments and have a few different surfaces I use from 360/1000, 500/1000, 500/2000, 2000, or 4000 that having a spinner does a great and easy job of vs trying to by hand.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: Dave81644 on June 12, 2016, 09:16:26 AM
Huge difference - spinner use vs doing it by hand.

I clean up or adjust my equipment just about every week depending on which league I'm bowling in.
Clean N Dull on the spinner can clean anything I've come across.

best bowling investment you can make IMO

Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: charlest on June 21, 2016, 03:53:17 PM
Ok, this is embarrassing but I've got to admit the truth when I made a mistake.

I have the 1/2 hp Vertex spinner, not the 1/3 hp model. The motor's label is on the side where I can't see it without removing the whole machine out of its cabinet. I found my original receipt from November 2001. I paid $189.95 + $10 shipping.

For some unknown reason I always assumed I had the 1/3 hp motor. Oh, well, confession is good for the soil.

FYI it's still going strong.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: vkowalski1970 on June 22, 2016, 10:36:34 PM
1/2 vertex....4-5 yrs old, best investment i ever made in bowling
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: rico4life on June 23, 2016, 12:23:11 PM
ordered 1/3 hp direct from vertex, 229.95 shipped with the start up kit best price anywhere, I had a donkee 2 speed spinner before and absolutely hated it too noisy and too much vibration, think this one will be better, never really needed the high speed setting anyway.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: Bowlaholic on June 24, 2016, 04:11:21 PM
To perhaps help in answering the question of how often the spinner gets used......the recent Radical Technologies ball study using a Jayhawk scanner showed the following:
Guru Supreme OOB 500/1500; actual grit 653.  After 10 games 3838 grit.
Roto Grip Menace OOB 3000; actual grit 2015.  After 10 games
3954 grit.
Track Paradox OOB 500/2000; actual grit 1285.  After 10 games
3823 grit.
Columbia Swerve OOB 500/1000/2000; actual grit 1441.  After 10 games 4014 grit.
You decide for yourself how often one needs to surface the ball on a spinner.
For me it looks like every three to six games.  So for me the spinner will be getting a lot more use.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: TheGom on June 27, 2016, 12:52:10 AM
To perhaps help in answering the question of how often the spinner gets used......the recent Radical Technologies ball study using a Jayhawk scanner showed the following:
Guru Supreme OOB 500/1500; actual grit 653.  After 10 games 3838 grit.
Roto Grip Menace OOB 3000; actual grit 2015.  After 10 games
3954 grit.
Track Paradox OOB 500/2000; actual grit 1285.  After 10 games
3823 grit.
Columbia Swerve OOB 500/1000/2000; actual grit 1441.  After 10 games 4014 grit.
You decide for yourself how often one needs to surface the ball on a spinner.
For me it looks like every three to six games.  So for me the spinner will be getting a lot more use.


Have a hard time translating these numbers in reality.

So some balls after 10 games have up to 6 times a higher grit number, but a player will certainly not see a ball reaction equal to these numbers it would seem.

Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: charlest on June 27, 2016, 05:06:13 AM
To perhaps help in answering the question of how often the spinner gets used......the recent Radical Technologies ball study using a Jayhawk scanner showed the following:
Guru Supreme OOB 500/1500; actual grit 653.  After 10 games 3838 grit.
Roto Grip Menace OOB 3000; actual grit 2015.  After 10 games
3954 grit.
Track Paradox OOB 500/2000; actual grit 1285.  After 10 games
3823 grit.
Columbia Swerve OOB 500/1000/2000; actual grit 1441.  After 10 games 4014 grit.
You decide for yourself how often one needs to surface the ball on a spinner.
For me it looks like every three to six games.  So for me the spinner will be getting a lot more use.


Have a hard time translating these numbers in reality.

So some balls after 10 games have up to 6 times a higher grit number, but a player will certainly not see a ball reaction equal to these numbers it would seem.



Not sure what you're saying here.
If the surface is changed to around the 4000 grit range when you've used a ball for 10 games or so, why is the equivalent change in ball reaction not reality?
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: todvan on June 27, 2016, 06:55:21 AM
To perhaps help in answering the question of how often the spinner gets used......the recent Radical Technologies ball study using a Jayhawk scanner showed the following:
Guru Supreme OOB 500/1500; actual grit 653.  After 10 games 3838 grit.
Roto Grip Menace OOB 3000; actual grit 2015.  After 10 games
3954 grit.
Track Paradox OOB 500/2000; actual grit 1285.  After 10 games
3823 grit.
Columbia Swerve OOB 500/1000/2000; actual grit 1441.  After 10 games 4014 grit.
You decide for yourself how often one needs to surface the ball on a spinner.
For me it looks like every three to six games.  So for me the spinner will be getting a lot more use.


Have a hard time translating these numbers in reality.

So some balls after 10 games have up to 6 times a higher grit number, but a player will certainly not see a ball reaction equal to these numbers it would seem.



Not sure what you're saying here.
If the surface is changed to around the 4000 grit range when you've used a ball for 10 games or so, why is the equivalent change in ball reaction not reality?

Yes, it would seem that we would notice a larger change in ball response after 10 games then......but it's not.
Title: Re: vertex ball spinner
Post by: kidlost2000 on June 27, 2016, 07:52:02 AM
Most people take 3-5 weeks to get 10 games because they Bowl one league a week on a house condition.

When you Bowl those numbers a week a part your less likely to notice that each week you're not standing and throwing and getting the same reaction as you did one or two weeks prior.