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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: toomanytenpins on April 04, 2007, 03:16:14 PM
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i was under the unfortunate impression that using the oven to extract oil from bowling balls was a good idea.Dont try it!!!. I had 2 crack this weekend and I believe that is what caused my battle to crack also. My no mercy split on the way to bowling sunday and today i noticed that my overtime has split over the total circumference of the ball.I just tossed it in the garbage. My no mercy and battle i am going to keep using till they split.I only had the oven on 150 maybe i let the balls get to warm ,but i wont again recommend the oven.hot water bath is as hot as they will ever get again.Quick way to spend 600 bucks,and a costly lesson to learn. boy have i had some rotten luck this year.
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Never bake bowling balls in your own oven...
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How long did you have them in for?
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i was under the unfortunate impression that using the oven to extract oil from bowling balls was a good idea.Dont try it!!!. I had 2 crack this weekend and I believe that is what caused my battle to crack also. My no mercy split on the way to bowling sunday and today i noticed that my overtime has split over the total circumference of the ball.I just tossed it in the garbage. My no mercy and battle i am going to keep using till they split.I only had the oven on 150 maybe i let the balls get to warm ,but i wont again recommend the oven.hot water bath is as hot as they will ever get again.Quick way to spend 600 bucks,and a costly lesson to learn. boy have i had some rotten luck this year.
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150 is way hot for bowling balls...
I used to set my oven to the lowest setting which was about 110.
I would leave the interior light on, and watch for oil to surface. I would then take the ball out of the oven, wipe it down with rubbing alcohol.
I would repeat it until the oil quit surfacing....Problem?
The oil that surfaces is really plasticizer coming out of the ball.
How do I know that? . . . I baked a couple of undrilled balls to see what would happen...oil came out? couldn't be oil since the ball never touched a lane surface.
I would only bake a ball that you have tried the hot water bath, and would try the oven as a last ditch effort....on a ball that is dead.
I've personally baked 50-75 balls and have never had one crack. You can't leave the ball unattended...
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Should of taken them to the Pro Shop and paid the $20 a ball for the rejuvenator! Throw them in the Hot water, great idea! Make sure you have new tape ready and your grips won't feel quite right again either, so better plan on springing $12 - $15 for new grips, you saved maybe $5?
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The grips would be perfectly fine. I have used tape to cover the holes and I have also not used any tape and the grips feel the exact same to me. Also, you're assuming that he even uses grips, which hasn't been revealed.
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Edited on 4/4/2007 11:46 PM
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The rejunenvator runs at 139.5 constantly rotating the ball with air flow, plasticizer does bleed in some balls at around 130 degrees. Hot water method or the hair dryer box with opening's is a better route i have doen both with good success.
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the rejuvenator or revivor devices found in pro shops are your best bet-----safe and they work.
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Well you learned the lesson that everyone tries to warn you about. DONT BAKE IN A HOME OVEN. Thats why the rejuvinators are on the market, and so expensive.
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I am still amazed people spend so much for a bowling ball and then "bake" it in an over at home to save a few bucks over a pro shop doing it for them..
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I think the great slump of 2006-2007 is finally coming to an end!!
Edited on 4/5/2007 6:23 AM
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Bake a ball at MAX 60 degree Celcius, wich is 140 F
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Heating a ball in any device is playing with fire, 1) it removes the vital life of the ball the plastizers 2) each part of the ball, the core, cover and any different density portions expand at different temperatures creating inner stress points. When you remove plastizer you create a more brittle coverstock, when the portions mentioned abouve heat up they expand and contract putting stree on the bonds created during the mkg process. MAny part of the ball do not bond but are encapsulated, heating disturbs this. Water with a degreasing soap is way more than you need.
Edited on 4/5/2007 10:58 AM
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I've baked balls before and have never had any cracking or other related problems...only use the warm setting and at the hottest they have gotten to 115° really brought my Diesel Reactive Pearl back to life. Worked on my Storm El Nino Wrath a few years ago too. Watch them closely and don't take them out and put them in the cold...let them cool back to room temp before taking them outside or bowling.
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I agree to pay the proshop to rejuvenate balls. The problem is: in my area, no proshop has a rejuvenator. I had absolutely no problem baking balls in my home oven but certain precautions have to be taken. What's the problem baking balls that are dead anyway and that you can't use.
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Haves anyone thought of what happens to the inside of your oven when you do bake a ball. A lot of the stuff thats in or on your ball evaporates and and is then trapped in your oven. Then you cook in your oven. Something about all that doesn't make my dinner taste as good. Just a thought.
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Mark Martin's recipe for "baked" Bowling Ball
This past Saturday I took the ball to Bud Mulholland of Bud's Pro Shop to have it resurfaced. The ball had various gouges and nicks that had happened over its lifetime and Bud would take care of these.
On Monday I picked up the ball from Bud and told him of my dilemma of the ball not hooking any longer. He then described a procedure I could do myself to remedy the situation. He stated that the reactive resin ball "eats" the oil off of the lane and the lane oil soaks into the ball. After many trips down the oily lane the ball quits reacting. He took my ball in the back of his shop and put it under a heat lamp and in less than 10 seconds the oil began oozing out.
Bud suggested that I "bake" the ball. He described this process as being quite simple using a standard household oven and a cookie sheet. Balancing the ball on its thumbhole on the cookie sheet and putting it in an oven at 150 degrees for 10-12 minutes at a time would bleed all of the oil out of the ball. After each cycle remove the ball from the oven and wipe it off and repeat the process until no more oil emerged from the ball.
I had heard of this before and it seemed very easy and foolproof. Even I, as the master chef, could accomplish this feat and in return have a new bowling ball.
Later that afternoon at the GDBA'S office I decided to "bake" the ball, since Monday night was my bowling night and it would be nice to have my Red Alert back the way it used to be.
I proceeded to turn the oven on and place the ball into it as the recipe called for. Approximately five minutes later when I went to check on it, I got the surprise of my life. Upon opening the oven door my Red Alert had become a flaming Red Alert and came rolling out of the oven onto the floor in the kitchen still in flames.
After the fire was out I surveyed the damage; the ball was definitely history. Approximately one third of the ball was now a different texture and color. So much for having a rejuvenated ball for my league session.
When I told Bud of the incident he could hardly believe it. The ball is now in Bud's possession and on display at his pro shop at 3105 W. Huron in Waterford, next to Lakewood Lanes.
The moral of the story is "bake" don't "broil" and then only by a qualified professional.
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I think Ebonite has said that some of their plasticizers will come out as low as 90 degrees!
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You might want to get a good thermometer and check out how accurate the thermostat is in your oven. You could have easily been using 175 degrees and not known it. People who home brew know not to trust the thermostat in a refrigerator if they're brewing lagers. There's always risk in anything you do, but finding a way to get oil out of the ball can greatly enhance it's usefulness. If it's dead and hardly hooking, it's worth a chance. I prefer the water methods over dry heat from an oven. I just tried the dishwasher method and it made a big improvement on a ball over soaking it in a bucket of hot water. I wouldn't just arbitrarily de-oil a ball every 50-75 games, but that's basically what Brunswick recommends. I'm not sure how much I trust Ebonite's opinions. First they said all heat was bad so they developed the Hook Again system. More recently, there was a post from one of their reps that said heating was effective.
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When baking a ball in a home oven, you have to make sure that the heating elements are off when you put the ball in. You pre-heat the oven to a certain temperature (some say 120, others 150) then you turn it off. I have had great results with Brunswick and Storm balls. I don't know about Ebonite.