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Jasfolse

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Ball choice?
« on: January 04, 2016, 07:52:40 PM »
I am a 165-190 average player with ball speed 13-15mph, and very little rev rate.
Looking for new ball, pro shop suggested a few here:
Columbia swerve, ebonite code of honor, rotogrip menance, rotogrip sinister, rotogrip critical, hammer red legend solid, ebonite salute, reax2, tracks paradox and track lx10

He said I need plenty help with early break and high end cover stocks with assymetrical core.

Have a game breaker 2 that is drilled wrong so it's a straight spare ball now

 

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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2016, 08:46:44 PM »
For your speed the sinister will give you length and backend. I'm 14.5-15.5 mph and it has been my go to ball since its release. 

The menace and few others that are similar in strength will probably be too strong for your speed...
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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2016, 10:35:32 AM »
I would also look at the Storm LOCK -- this ball will help you out because of your low rev rate. If polished it will not check early. Keep in mind that cover changes may be needed to get the reaction you are looking for.
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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2016, 10:45:14 AM »
I am a 165-190 average player with ball speed 13-15mph, and very little rev rate.
Looking for new ball, pro shop suggested a few here:
Columbia swerve, ebonite code of honor, rotogrip menance, rotogrip sinister, rotogrip critical, hammer red legend solid, ebonite salute, reax2, tracks paradox and track lx10

He said I need plenty help with early break and high end cover stocks with assymetrical core.

Have a game breaker 2 that is drilled wrong so it's a straight spare ball now

Other than the GB2 that goes straight, what else are you throwing and what is it doing?  Is it not hooking enough?  Do you feel that you need more hook?  Before anyone can tell you what ball to pick, we need to know what your current arsenal is doing and not doing.

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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2016, 11:07:02 AM »
While asymmetric cored balls, like most of those recommended, are usually very strong and intended for heavier oil amounts, they also require a more consistent release to perform properly. If you're averaging 165 - 190 (that's a pretty wide range; are you in several leagues?), it would seem that you're really not consistent enough to take advantage of what an asymmetric ball will offer, It is also  more difficult to drill properly; the driller should watch you throw at least a game and do some measurements of tilt, rotation, rev rate and ball speed, among others before drilling such a ball.

I get very suspicious when a pro shop recommends their most expensive balls for someone like yourself.

There are plenty of very strong symmetric cored balls that will serve your purpose just as well; they'll be less expensive plus they're easier to drill.
Examples: RG Haywire, Arson High Flare Solid, Columbia Severe Delirium, Ebonite Adrenaline Shot, Brunswick Melee Hook.
Plus on top of all that, why not just plug the Game Breaker and drill it correctly for your release? It is not a weak ball
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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2016, 11:09:13 AM »
Get a spare ball. And learn to use it.
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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2016, 12:57:39 PM »
Ok cyclone works best for me and hope it's dry.


Went to a new pro shop guy who watched me bowl and recommended these balls,
Did all measurements, said I need help early due to low revs,

Said GB2 would cost me about 80 to plug and redrill.
So I decided just to get it done correctly with new ball.

Local pro shop was a joke, still thinks that it's drilled correct but my pin and pap are 1/4 inch apart and at mid grip midline under my fingers by 2 inches..what I have is a helicopter game breaker 2

Cyclone looks like a high end ball when thrown side by side

What y'all think?




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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2016, 01:06:02 PM »


I get very suspicious when a pro shop recommends their most expensive balls for someone like yourself.


I agree 100%! My suggestion is get a lower performance ball that is easier to control, spend what you saved on a lesson from a good reputable coach.

I think most companies have good pieces that would fit what you are looking to do.


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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 08:22:52 AM »
Ok cyclone works best for me and hope it's dry.


Went to a new pro shop guy who watched me bowl and recommended these balls,
Did all measurements, said I need help early due to low revs,

Said GB2 would cost me about 80 to plug and redrill.
So I decided just to get it done correctly with new ball.

Local pro shop was a joke, still thinks that it's drilled correct but my pin and pap are 1/4 inch apart and at mid grip midline under my fingers by 2 inches..what I have is a helicopter game breaker 2

Cyclone looks like a high end ball when thrown side by side

What y'all think?

You've got three options based on what you said:

1. Plug and redrill the GB2 with an aggressive layout and bring the grit down to 500 or 1000.  That should work on Medium-Heavy and the Cyclone (assuming a somewhat out-of-box finish) should work at the Medium-Dry.  Total $80.

2. Buy an aggressive asymmetric (I prefer the Roto Grip Hyper Cell if you could find it) for Heavy, plug and redrill the GB2 and bring the grit up to 2000 or 4000 for Medium, and keep your Cyclone for Dry conditions.  Total ~$300.

3. Same as 2 but ditch plugging and redrilling the GB2 and have the asymmetric serve as the Heavy-Medium and the Cyclone the Medium-Dry ball.  There is a big gap between the 2 so you would really have to do some juggling.  Total ~$220 (not sure how much a high performance ball is in your area).

Personally, I would go with option 2 and if you don't have a plastic or urethane spare ball, get one.  Averaging 165-190 means there are areas of your game that need to be improved and spares are definitely an area neglected by most.  You can make up for a low rev rate by being an excellent spare shooter!

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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2016, 10:51:52 AM »
Low revs and low ball speed are a formula for early burn and poor hitting power with any kind of strong shell or strong core ball.  In all honesty an average of less than 190 suggests you have flaws in your game that will not be cured or masked with any ball. 

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Re: Ball choice?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2016, 11:41:04 AM »
Low revs and low ball speed are a formula for early burn and poor hitting power with any kind of strong shell or strong core ball.  In all honesty an average of less than 190 suggests you have flaws in your game that will not be cured or masked with any ball

Exactly, that's the reason for my comment about the spare ball.
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