Sounds to me like an entry angle issue. Are you experimenting at all with different balls? Or perhaps slightly different surfaces?

Idk im a slower player as well...I carry EXTREMELY well kost of the time. My biggest isue is the ball deflecting too much.  Ill catch myself throwing a 4 bagger and realize that all 4 shots exited the pin deck like 5 boards right of where it should have..

Is that due to slower ball speed too? Or crossing toonmany boards? Thanks in advance..

TDC when I have a bad skid of carry issues I either:

Revert back to a control ball that I rolly really well
Change surfaces on a few balls..
Get a new ball lol. 
Video tape myself..
Have someone far more superior than me analyze my game...


If I exhaust all of thise steps..usually I fix my slice...

bildozer, as I said, guys that are pretty good bowlers watch and can't figure out why I don't carry better. I really do have an extremely high pocket pct. I am not a guy who thinks just because you get to the pocket, you should strike. Been bowling too long and know much better than that.

SV, That is what I've been thinking the last few weeks. Two weeks ago I threw the first 15 balls of the night dead flush and had only a double to show for it. Three weeks ago I had 29 hits out of 33 of 9 or strike. Only about four of those were not quality shots. I just wish the dark cloud would lift soon!

SV, That is what I've been thinking the last few weeks. Two weeks ago I threw the first 15 balls of the night dead flush and had only a double to show for it. Three weeks ago I had 29 hits out of 33 of 9 or strike. Only about four of those were not quality shots. I just wish the dark cloud would lift soon!

Sorry, but from my point of view, there's no such thing as being this unlucky for such a long period of time. Been there, done that. There is always some reason.

Based on your descriptions, I'd suggest that some factor is making your pearls go slightly too long and hit slightly behind the head pin. It would seem like it's just a tiny factor. Some possibilities are too much polish on the ball (were any recently refreshed?), colder weather, like humidity, make the oil and the lane surface seem like it has slightly less friction; has there been maintenance on the oil machine or have they slightly modified the pattern or amount.

What you might try is to get the ball into a roll just a hair sooner, so it goes thru the skid/hook/roll transition a tiny bit sooner. Hazing the polish by hand with a Scotch-Brite light grey pad or a 4000 grit Abralon/Siaair pad could help (just to "haze" the gloss off a small portion of the ball). Adjustments to delivery could include moving maybe 1/2 board - 1 board with your feet left or right to hit the dry maybe one foot sooner at the breakpoint.

I think you're only off a tiny bit. If you were off a lot, you'd probably be carrying a ton of light hits. That's no consolation, I know.

I think the strength of today's equipment is one of the reasons I'm still using older stuff. I know for a fact I'm not experiencing roll-out. I only see that if I use some of my stronger stuff at my home house that I normally save for heavier shots at tournaments. Of the three balls I mainly use, the drillings are label leverage on the Messenger, stacked leverage on the GT-1 and pin above the ring finger with the cg kicked out slightly left. I agree with you Pinbuster on creating some mixer carry. This past week it was colder out and the lanes seem to play tighter and I couldn't get to the pocket quite as well at the beginning of the night. I carried light shots a number of times. When the lanes broke down a little I was back to hitting pretty flush with every shot and my lack of carry came back. Charlest, I also agree with you that this is not something major, just something off slightly, that is why it's so frustrating. I have tried slight adjustments and have come up high or just had pretty much the same outcome as before. I think maybe I should just keep plugging away and hope something changes. I'm not unhappy with how I'm doing and actually my average is up a couple of pins from last year, but when I see other guys with the same or less game than I have, shooting higher scores more often, I have gotten a little frustrated.

Ok, "setting" may be a bad choice of wording. I look at the 8 board and send the ball out to the 4-5 board. I don't know what made you think I don't get the ball out over the foul line but my ball routinely lands about 18 inches past the foul line. I have no "fit" issues as I get out of the ball very clean. Absolutely no issue with weak back row pin leaves. That was my point when I said guys shake their heads with how solid I hit the pocket and yet don't seem to carry as well as you would think I should, with such a hit. I appreciate your interest in helping, but in this case what you raised as issues, are not.