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ToiletLogCore

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What has bowling come to?
« on: January 17, 2012, 01:06:58 AM »
Was just browsing around some other forums and thought I'd share this topic with everyone.

Enjoy this fine food for thought on this lovely Tuesday morning:

 



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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2012, 01:50:43 PM »
Good material! 

 

We have "VG Nano at like 45 abralon" guy in our Thursday night league (a dry(er) shot, avg is..............wait for it............182. 
 



Sunshine n Lollipops wrote on 1/17/2012 11:35 AM:
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Edited by Good Times Good Times on 1/17/2012 at 2:55 PM
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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2012, 04:30:03 PM »
So the guy is also mad about people that play up the boards and he has to hook the ball? Most tournaments and many house shots have made it harder for me to play up the boards and usually when you can it is only for a game. As much as I don't like getting in to hook the ball I have to more and I'm getting better at it. But I know if the shot up the outside is there, Im going to put down some scores.
 
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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2012, 07:36:58 PM »
I stopped reading after his comment about straight players and how the shot got tougher for the players playing inside.. THEN DON'T PLAY INSIDE.. Also, if your so superior, you should be able to play all angles of the lane...


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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2012, 08:49:28 PM »
Didn't Tom Daughtery bowl a 100 against Mika's 299? How was Mika 199 pins better than another pro at the same time on the same lanes? Tom played the lanes different with a different ball and was leaving splits when Mika was striking!!!! It happens to the best in the world and that was at a major!!! Maybe the equipment megamav is using isn't matching up to the new or different oil pattern!!! I saw that he posted about a HookR and maybe it's to much ball to play the lanes they need to be played!!! Just my $.02, Bruce


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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2012, 09:11:22 PM »
It's all about being able to make adjustments.  If going up the boards is available on the specific shot, you better believe that I will use that since throwing hard and playing outside is my A game.  However, I have gotten better over time being able to move in and hook it.  Gaining that versatility has really been a good thing.  That guy should quit complaining because anyone can beat anyone on any given day.

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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2012, 08:28:23 AM »
One of the things I think gets completly missed in the topic so far is that a better bowler, walking in to any tournament or league is at a disadvantage if the shot matches up to certain bowlers with less skill better. I run into this all the time. I think most bowlers run into this. Even sport shots don't fix the problem because some patterns cater to other style bowlers, regardless of skill or average. Thats just part of bowling. In league, if the shot is consistent from week to week, its easy to figure out how to score. In a tournament, getting one came behind and then chasing the changes will kill you.

 

As far as easy conditions, I see it locally here too. As long as any bowler can get the ball's breakpoint outside of 5 board, the ball funnels to the hole.

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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2012, 10:23:26 AM »
WOW, the guy locks the thread because he thinks it getting personal here because he cant adjust to the lanes properly...
 
 
Here is what he said.... 
 
Thank you everyone for your responses.
I am locking this topic, because its getting attention from an unsavory group of individuals who would rather make it personal than discuss the true heart of the topic.
Those remarks have been removed.
Time to shoe up again tonight and make the most of it.

-Eric
 

 
 
Edited by HaterOfCGs on 1/18/2012 at 11:31 AM

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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2012, 10:32:04 AM »
My take on this guy is that he needs a slap upside his head!

 

Seriously, I consider myself a good bowler, I averaged about 230-235 on most house shots over the last 5-10 years. I would never, ever have the attitude that this megamav does. I have been beaten by lots of bowlers who were probably, overall, not as good as me. Was I mad at them, or the lanes, no. I was mad, but at myself. I should be good enough to find the right line, the right release, and or the right equipment in order to compete and beat them. I used to bowl in a second shift scratch league in Texas. One year the center decided to use a little less oil, or changed something so we had a very dry condition most nights. I will admit, I did mention to the manager (who also bowled in the league) that we could use a little more oil, but I didn't "bitch" at him about it. What I did is go into my garage and pull out my old urethane Sumo, and I threw that. In fact one night I was bowling another very good bowler, on Columbia amatuer staff at the time and a PBA regional regular, and we went at it: my Sumo vs. his White Dot, lol.

 

Bottomline there are always answers to scoring better...this Megamav guy can do it, but he would rather complain because the shot isn't set up to HIS liking anymore. It may mean a change to his game, or it even may mean looking back through his old equipment to find a different ball that will match up better. The difference between Megamav and myself is, I know I suck. I know my 230+ average is due to easy THS conditions. And I am proving it this year bowling in my PBAX league here. My 230+ is down to a 200+, which is near the top of our league even with some very good bowlers in it.


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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2012, 11:52:06 AM »
Excellent response Jorge.

I think you hit the nail on the head.  MegaMav is the type of person to say that house patterns are killing bowling, and that he would rather bowl on Sport patterns instead. Talking about how all these other guys average would drop, yet never considering his would plummet as well.  Yet when they do bowl on this harder stuff, there's always an excuse on why they didn't bowl well, "Oh I just didn't have the right ball.... The pattern didn't play like it was supposed to... The guys on my pair were throwing too much surface and destroyed the pattern" 

Yet this guy have the nerve to call out an "inferior" bowler for beating him. MegaMav, you sir are clearly the inferior one.


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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2012, 10:04:00 AM »
Here is the latest.  Ban THS conditions LOL.....

 

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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2012, 02:22:41 PM »
Many top hats reward the inside out loop shot to take advantage of the crown.

 

Many sport shots want to be played more down and in. 

 

If you can't do both, well I guess you will just be better at one than the other.  If you can do both then you are a versatile bowler.

 

I sometimes think of pro golf where some courses reward a hook, some courses reward a fade, and some courses like Augusta really reward a lefty fade(Phil Mickelson anyone).  Can anyone deny that Phil is a pretty good player but not so versatile.

 

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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2012, 02:45:00 PM »
 MegaMav has always been & continues to be delusional

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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2012, 03:42:01 PM »
+1 on that statement
 



northface28 wrote on 1/31/2012 3:45 PM:MegaMav has always been & continues to be delusional

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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2012, 04:17:00 PM »
Forget the oil pattern. Take the ball out the equation and it becomes a win/win for everyone. Ban all Urethane and Reactive Bowling balls. Plastic is the only type you can use.

 

Win for the Bowling Centers:

 

1. Bowling Lanes would require less oil.

 

2. Plastic ball does so much less wear on a lane.

 

3. Any damage done to a customer's ball is now cheaper to replace.

 

Win for the Bowler:

 

1. Plastic Bowling Ball price is cheap (More money to spend on other things: Like Tournaments) Makes bowling more affordable. Now someone can spend $50 to $100 and hold onto a ball for years.

 

2. You would carry 2 to 3 balls to a tournament (No more bags all over the place to trip on while bowling)

 

3. As your ball wears down the better it gets. No need to keep buying cleaners, sending it to the pro shop for oil removal.

 

4. Now that plastic is only type of ball. Manufacturer's now have more time to come up with outer ball designs. As a bowler you will have many different colors and designs to choose from. Bowling balls would probably be more unique to a bowler.

 

Oh I almost forgot...bowling sites like this would have more topics on the sport of bowling. Not what ball I need next.

 

Of course it will never happen.

 

Well I am off to the lanes to throw my new $200 bowling ball, guaranteed to give me more strikes than the ball I bought last year.
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Re: What has bowling come to?
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2012, 04:25:43 PM »
A big +100.....

 

I had hoped Mav would have learned something in all the years since he left BR, but that post shows "the more things change, the more they stay the same".

 

One common characteristic of most good bowlers is that they never blame the condition for their Ills. The attitude is that whatever is out there, there is a way to be successful -- you just have to find it. And if you don't, it's your own fault. Nobody else is to blame.

 

I'm a 225-235 house hack, and far from being a truly elite bowler. I may be a big fish in my little pond, but I can never imagine disrespecting any bowler I'm up against. My job is to execute, and if I don't, I deserve to be beat.

 

Hopefully, Mav will get the concept someday.
 



Jorge300 wrote on 1/18/2012 11:32 AM:
My take on this guy is that he needs a slap upside his head!