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ccrider

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What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« on: June 28, 2012, 06:21:37 PM »
All of you guys who tire of those looking for hook out of the box, take a zanex and sit out on this one.  :o   8)

In terms of cover strength, RG, and differential, what is the biggest hooking ball heavy oil ball on the market.

I had a very good bowler ask me this question today, and I had to pause to answer it. I told him that my first guess would be the Nexxus. He told me he thought the Defiant may be stronger.




 

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 06:37:16 PM »
The Defiant seems to be from watching others.
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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 06:42:17 PM »
Since no one has each of the biggest hooking balls from each manufacture on the same drill pattern what honest answer do you expect?

Pick any big oil ball from any manufacture and they will likely be within a few boards of each other. Since he is a good bowler a few boards won't matter.

Seriously, go ahead right now, you and the good bowler, and start drilling them up and tell us. If you make it through most of them and there is one on heavy oil that is easily that much stronger then all the rest please let us know.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 07:11:23 PM »
Ive had them all the Nexxus,Defiant,Dark Encounter,Hell Raiser Revenge, I  shot a 800 with both th Nexxus and Defiant. But if i have pick i go Nexxus,Defiant than Hell Raiser Revenge

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 07:25:43 PM »
In terms of cover strength, RG, and differential, what is the biggest hooking ball heavy oil ball on the market.

Still have Global, AMF,  Ebonite, Hammer, Track, Storm, Morich, ect ect

We need more data then that
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 07:59:48 PM »
900 global - freight train, bank roll.
AMF - omg, green mamba..

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 08:40:17 PM »
You should be asking what is the hardest hitting ball on heavy oil.


The problem is that an elementary understanding of physics says you can't get a ball to hook on heavy oil unless there is so much surface friction on the ball that it will roll out by the time it gets to the drier back end.  I have found that the hardest hitting balls on heavy oil are often pearl balls that you can get to roll as soon as they hit the dry.  Not much hook but they hit harder than a dull abrasive ball that burns as soon as it hits the dry. 

Remember the slickest lanes still have 15 feet of dry on the back end.  As an old guy with low revs, there is nothing that makes me lick my chops more than going against a young gun with high revs and lots of axis rotation on a long slick pattern.   

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 09:06:54 PM »
Sorry, but, for my 2 cents: just more horse hockey pucks!

Any inherently strong ball can be made to hook earlier and more (than most others) if you take the surface down to 500 grit and you use a very low pin position with a very low VAL Angle AND a very low Drill Angle.
(FYI 500 grit is INSANELY rough!!)

The OMG, Defiant, Nexxus, Hell Raiser Revenge, Destroyer, Slant Solid are among the strongest. There is no ONE strongest.

And, worst of all, next week there will be one that SEEMS stronger & earlier than all the rest!!!!
« Last Edit: June 28, 2012, 10:26:27 PM by charlest »
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tommyboy74

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 11:50:04 PM »
As charlest said, there is no one strongest ball.  However, there are a ton of really strong balls on the market.

Storm: Virtual Gravity Nano, VG Nano Pearl, Vivid
Roto Grip: Defiant, Defiant Edge, Critical Theory
900 Global: Freight Train, Bank Roll
AMF: OMG!, Green Mamba
Track: 912T, 716T
Ebonite: Pursuit, Pursuit-S, Mission X
Hammer: Taboo (solid and pearl)
Lane #1: Droid, Droid Pearl
Columbia 300: Wicked Encounter, Dark Encounter
Brunswick: Nexxxus solid, Nexxxus pearl (the triple x is stronger than the double x)
DV8: Hell Raiser Terror, Hell Raiser Revenge, Hell Raiser
Motiv: Raptor P7, 2 Cruel
MoRich: DestroyR, HookR, LocoMotion
Current Ball Arsenal
Heavy:
MOTIV Jackal Legacy
MOTIV Mythic Jackal

Med-Heavy:
MOTIV Trident Odyssey
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

Medium:
MOTIV VIP ExJ Sigma
MOTIV Sigma Sting
MOTIV Pride Solid

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire

DON DRAPER

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2012, 01:38:13 PM »
According to Bowlers Journal International the DV8 Hell Raiser Revenge is the biggest hooking ball they have yet tested. That may change here in the very near future. Especially when the Hell Raiser Terror reaches their address.

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2012, 02:32:59 PM »
+ 1
You should be asking what is the hardest hitting ball on heavy oil.


The problem is that an elementary understanding of physics says you can't get a ball to hook on heavy oil unless there is so much surface friction on the ball that it will roll out by the time it gets to the drier back end.  I have found that the hardest hitting balls on heavy oil are often pearl balls that you can get to roll as soon as they hit the dry.  Not much hook but they hit harder than a dull abrasive ball that burns as soon as it hits the dry. 

Remember the slickest lanes still have 15 feet of dry on the back end.  As an old guy with low revs, there is nothing that makes me lick my chops more than going against a young gun with high revs and lots of axis rotation on a long slick pattern.   

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2012, 05:28:32 PM »
All of you guys who tire of those looking for hook out of the box, take a zanex and sit out on this one.  :o   8)

In terms of cover strength, RG, and differential, what is the biggest hooking ball heavy oil ball on the market.

I had a very good bowler ask me this question today, and I had to pause to answer it. I told him that my first guess would be the Nexxus. He told me he thought the Defiant may be stronger.

I have the Nexxus and Hellraiser Revenge drilled the same way. The Hellraiser Revenge is quite a bit stronger for me.

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2012, 05:57:52 PM »
Go to bowlingball.com you can compare bowling balls side by side and get the info you need.


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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2012, 09:50:25 PM »
Thanks for the constructive responses.

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Re: What is the Strongest Hooking Ball for Heavy Oil
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 07:52:17 PM »
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