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Title: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: BobOhio on August 17, 2013, 10:11:35 AM
After reading lately about awards and other USBC news, I was wondering what you all think.
Would someone (Kegal) pick up the National Tournaments, ball specs, lane requirements, etc.??
Would the BPAA handle local associations or form new group within their organization?
If the USBC was to disappear because of lack of funds, what are going to be our options, if any.
Thanks
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: bowl400 on August 17, 2013, 10:38:02 AM
No national database for averages.  Would have to submit league sheets to every tournament like back in the day.  Tournament directors would go crazy trying to determine if someone submitted league sheets for every league they bowl in.  The baggers would enjoy that environment.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: FlappersRevenge on August 17, 2013, 12:28:00 PM
Well, I don't know what "are" world would be like, but OUR world would be much better. USBC is destroying bowling more and more every day and they're a complete waste of money.

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No national database for averages.  Would have to submit league sheets to every tournament like back in the day.  Tournament directors would go crazy trying to determine if someone submitted league sheets for every league they bowl in.  The baggers would enjoy that environment.

That just sounds ridiculous. I could understand your argument if we were still living in the 80's or early 90's, but it's 2013 and literally EVERYTHING is run by computers. Technology is everywhere, everyone has access to the internet etc. If USBC dies (here's hoping) and Kegel or TNBA or some new organization were to become the national association, it would be very easy to set up a website with a database and list the averages of every bowler in the entire national association, based on location the same way USBC does now.

We're not living in the stone age. Technology and the ability to track averages and other statistics online wouldn't go away just because USBC no longer exists. The database will always be there, and I'm sure it would be available for purchase if USBC were to go under.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: sevenpin63 on August 17, 2013, 12:52:29 PM
Lets keep it civil, no need for the grammar police. ;)
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: sevenpin63 on August 17, 2013, 12:55:39 PM
Now I think some organization would fill the void, but would it be better? Thats anybodies guess.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: Juggernaut on August 17, 2013, 01:21:10 PM
Lets keep it civil, no need for the grammar police. ;)

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Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: bowl400 on August 17, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
Sure, another organization could pick up the function, but how long until the new system is actually usable by tournament directors.  Yes, we live in technological wonder age, however, being an IT professional, it takes time to develop and debug any database application.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: J_Mac on August 17, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
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Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: BobOhio on August 17, 2013, 03:35:49 PM
Flapper
Thank you for the spelling correction, I'm always looking for help of any kind.
Now to solve the USBC problem.
Thank you,
Bob
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: BOWLGNUT on August 17, 2013, 04:39:06 PM
Back to square one. What it needs is people who cared about the sport of bowling who been around the sport inside and out. What we got is too many figure heads at USBC deciding what is what with out looking at what need to be done and better the sport. Need a group of people from men and ladies to look at awards and other aspect of the game instead of putting in a solution that may not work at all. If I was president of USBC I get all who is involved and cut the pork belly nonsense out and make it better running with out the crap. By looking at all aspect of the sport and to better the sport to like it was then.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: Long Gone Daddy on August 17, 2013, 06:27:54 PM
You guys forget the two basic things the USBC supplies.  Everything else is superfluous and rather meaningless, better left for cackling hens to cluck about.  The USBC establishes rules and equipment guidelines and specs, and they bond league funds.  Goddammit, when will you people quit bitching about bowling so much?  Find another sport if this one is just too screwed up for you. 
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: Mighty Fish on August 17, 2013, 07:12:53 PM
We'll all likely find out what life will be without the USBC, because the national governing body will be fortunate to be a viable entity four years from now.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: batbowler on August 17, 2013, 07:34:31 PM
We post our leagues on League Secretary, so our bowlers can see league stats and bowler stats! So we have some form of data base already without USBC! How many tournaments do people bowl in already that's not sanctioned? I bowl in several that are ran very well without any problems, and yes we do still follow USBC rules! I remember when the Hoinke in Cincinnati did their own awards, cause ABC at the time didn't want to sanction the almost year round tournament!
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: On Further Review on August 17, 2013, 07:41:10 PM
I'll bet that even though USBC is cutting back on a lot of things, they aren't cutting back on their fat salaries.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: On Further Review on August 17, 2013, 07:42:43 PM
Long Gone Daddy, you complain about others bitching and yet that is just about all you do on these boards.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: Long Gone Daddy on August 17, 2013, 08:44:28 PM
Too bad, little one.  You don't like it, don't read it.  At least my posts are germaine to the subject and not being a pitiful stalker like you.  Go whine to somebody who cares.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: BrianCRX90 on August 18, 2013, 08:56:22 PM
In reality, men would be men and woman would be woman. It was better then, and not many realize how the merger affected this sport.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: spmcgivern on August 19, 2013, 08:29:36 AM
To be honest, and I may be in the minority, I am surprised USBC can do what it does while only getting $10 per person.  Perhaps I don't see the registration fee as a big deal.  But even if it were doubled I wouldn't care.  If people are so worried about the USBC, then propose a higher registration fee.  This doesn't mean they don't need to look inward and fix some things, but come on people, is $0.30 extra per week of a winter league breaking your bank?!?

USBC goes away, no more rules.  And if you try to use the existing USBC rules, prepare to be sued.  Don't want to test new equipment, then prepare to have bowling balls destroying the shot even quicker.  No bonding or prosecution for lost league funds, then what is to stop secretaries/treasurers from running off with the money. 

Considering the bowling ball certification, why doesn't USBC require the ball manufacturers from certifying their equipment from a third party organization?  Then again, what is the cost to USBC for this?  Could be barking up the wrong tree.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: On Further Review on August 20, 2013, 07:03:04 PM
Long Gone Daddy, insults and profanity aren't germaine to any subject, but you seem to use those type of posts regardless of what the subject is.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: Long Gone Daddy on August 20, 2013, 07:19:18 PM
Awwwww.  Little stalker is upset.  That's really too bad.
Title: Re: What would are world be like without the USBC?
Post by: FlappersRevenge on August 20, 2013, 11:49:41 PM
Why don't you two just beat each other up in the schoolyard or something? After all, the only thing either of you do on here is act like children. I'm tired of reading your crap, stop dragging the forum down and get over whatever man crushes you have on each other.