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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: David Lee Yskes on November 12, 2004, 04:11:01 PM
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Well one of these days i will have my own bowling center.
But my Ideal center would have about 60lanes, nice restaurant/bar, excellent proshop with someone in the house at all times to service someone. I would want to have the best oiling machines like a Kegel or custodian.
as for the leagues i would want to have one nice Classic league that bowls on a variety of oil patterns. Probably holding this league on a Thursday, and then have the usual assortment of leagues through out the week.
I would want to talk to ABC and see about having Nationals held at my bowling center within the yr of having it open'd and then see about having it held there every 5th yr.
As for the shot that is put out, to hell with the cake shots.
I would make the gutters max depth, and make the sides so they dont bounce off so much. The shot would probably be like a 40ft light oil, pretty flat yet score-able, something like first 15ft 20units of oil gutter to gutter, then 10units of oil to 40ft from 5-5, with the bare 3units on the last 3 boards. And i would probably use Twister Pins
I would probably want synthetic lanes, with wood approaches.
Now for prices for open bowling, i have always been a person for the bowlers, and feel everyones pain when it comes to paying outragous prices.
I would probably set a rate of 2$ per game at nite, and 1.50$ per game during the day. and have special rates for league bowlers like 1$ all the time.
I am sure the list can go on and on about things i would have in this place.
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" Lift Your Skirt Grab Your Balls and Learn How to Bowl "
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He isn't neccessarily going to go bankrupt, cus you simply don't know. However, This is quite an ambitious undertaking. A house that big is going to be very difficult to run, but best of luck to you. Let me know when it opens!
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I used to think some of this stuff too...before I opened a bowling center.
Keep gong guys this will be interesting.
Bowl great!
Ron Clifton
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Here is another thing that needs improved on if you build a center. The settee area! Have it big enough to hold a whole teams 4-6 ball roller bags and all the personal items so that you do not have to trip over other peoples equipment when it is your turn to bowl. Another is ball machine rack that can hold enough equipment so you do not have a half dozen balls under the machine for people to trip over them.
These are a few things that I would incorporate into a center IF I ever had enough money to build one.
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Just a bowler.
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This one would be easy. I don't know about making things perfect like the Brunswick ProLane and the private party lanes, but there are a few things that I would like to do.
No alcohol consumption outside of the bar, which includes the lanes. Bowling is a athletic activitiy, and alcohol and athletic activities don't mix.
No smoking in the center (if I wasn't in Florida and California). I would actually go all the way and paint a red circle 20 feet away from the whole center so people won't smoke anywhere near my damn center.
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-Jeremy Vitug
It is YOU who decides what happens on the lane.
Edited on 11/13/2004 10:24 AM
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Just give me four lanes,like the ones in "King Pin" IN MY BASEMENT!!!!!!!!

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Is it legal to yell"MOVIE" in a firehouse????
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You know me, I want a big, giant pro shop, with it's own lane or two. We have joked about that. I would have an odd lane #61 and have it seperated by a few feet, just for pro shop use. Lessons with CATS, video, etc.....
Aaahhhh hitting the lottery!!!
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Mike Austin
Mike Austin's Precision Pro Shop
Houston, TX
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Onward through the Storm!!!!
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Just give me four lanes,like the ones in "King Pin" IN MY BASEMENT!!!!!!!!
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Is it legal to yell"MOVIE" in a firehouse????
Off topic, but similar to your post.
I called AMF and Brunswick how much these get done for, out of curiousity and for when I win the lottery. Including a building (and the licensing stuff), it would be like buying small-average house in the SF Bay Area.... that's for two new lanes, set of equipment, masking, scoring, installation, etc. Maybe a few hundred grand.
Oh yeah, it doesn't include that $30,000 Kegel Sanction Elite machine you want, and the amount of oil you are going to buy from them ($125/gallon for oil, and I don't know for cleaner).
I plan on winning the lottery soon, so when It happens, there will be a party at my place. Signups are being taken now.
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-Jeremy Vitug
It is YOU who decides what happens on the lane.
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Hey Joe,
You can actually buy a 4 lane set up thru Neiman-marcus. At the ripe old
tune of $500,00.00 

Check out their new catalog, I am not kidding.
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Tracy
GO COWBOYS
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Cheap bowling for everyone, id only charge 10 bucks an hour. You figure most of your income would come from the bars, am I right or wrong? How many people pay 20 bucks for leagues but pay 10 bucks for beer 3 times.. Theres money from league..
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First and foremost, customer service. Make the customer feel like you really care about them and that you appreciate their business.
One simple and cheap suggestion.
Install towel bars and trays on the settee console to hold bowler paraphernalia.
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LadyW....
Edited on 11/13/2004 11:48 AM
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Lady that is a good one! Make sure you know ALOT of bowlers, go out and mingle with people.. Ask them what you can do to make their day better at your house!! I wish ours did that, id tell him to lay down some fvkin oil on saturday morning leagues
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I never dreamed it would be me, My name for all eternity, Recorded here at this hallowed place Alas, my name, no more my face. "In the line of duty," I hear them say: My family now the price to pay. My folded flag stained with their tears; We only had those few short years. The badge no longer on my chest, I sleep now in eternal rest. My sword I pass to those behind, And pray they keep this thought in mind. I never dreamed it would be me, And with heavy heart and bended knee, I ask for all here from the past: Dear God, let my name be the last.
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I used to think some of this stuff too...before I opened a bowling center.
Keep gong guys this will be interesting.
Bowl great!
Ron Clifton
I've been to Ron's center. If any of you are really serious, you should talk to him. -- JohnP
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If I had a bowling center, I would set it on fire and collect the insurance...bowling is dead.
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If I had a bowling center, I would set it on fire and collect the insurance...bowling is dead.
The joke going at Shore Crest Lanes in Michigan is "So Vern (or Bob), when are you going to burn the place down again?"
On friday nights, they have the premier league that my dad used to bowl in.
I went there one time and hear this drunk guy yell "hey Vern, the shot is sh!t today, think its time to burn it down again?"
Vern just looks at the guy with an evil eye and then looks the other way without saying anything.
So far, in a 30 year span, its burned down twice. Kinda fishy, and boy is that place SH!T! They refuse to oil for anything but a few leagues, and it seems like whenever the owners let this place get really bad, they burn it down, so we're just waiting!
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stanski
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60 lanes. 24 walled to the max, 24 sport shot (or something tough),and 12 duck or candle pins. Something for everyone. Bar: NTN trivia, karaoke on saturdays, and beer specials every night. Pro shop: Manned by someone old school with a knowledge of the modern game. well stocked with internet compatible pricing (LOL). Diverse restaurant w/a different theme every night, i.e. Italian, Mexican etc. Pie in the sky I know, but I can dream, can't I??? Also....I would have a child care area to take care of the kids during bowling. On site from 6:00pm to 1:00am
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If the lane conditions are the reason for your bad scores for your bad scores, then they are also the reason for your good ones!!
Edited on 11/13/2004 8:26 PM
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If I had a bowling center, I would set it on fire and collect the insurance...bowling is dead.
... the guy does have a really good point.
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-Jeremy Vitug
It is YOU who decides what happens on the lane.
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After doing extensive research, I’ve had plans drawn up for a bowling alley.
I’e found the busiest nights are Cosmic Bowling. Place is packed. Problem is kids don’t have any money, no bar sales, no profit.
League nights place is packed but everyone leaves about 9:30 after league, place goes dead, closes around 10, no bar sales, no profit.
My solution, Adult Cosmic Bowling. I got this idea when I visited Creekside lanes, Winston Salem, NC, home of the legendary Ron Clifton.
In Ron’s house the lanes are about 4 steps above the rest of the house, and instead of the lanes running continuously side by side, he has groups of lanes separated with islands that run down the side of the lanes. Really makes for a beautiful house.
Now here’s what my partners came up with.
We install the lanes above ground in groups of 4. Separate steps lead up to each pair of lanes. The side lanes though will have walkways and seating the entire length of the lane. We aren’t even going to put machines on them, just poles for the dancing girls.
No charge for bowling, everyone just pays a $20 cover charge. We won’t have any complaints about lane conditions, place will be packed every night, no one will really care about averages, guys will be showing up even on the nights they aren’t scheduled to bowl. No one will care if league runs till 2-3 AM.
House will be 40 lanes, 20 to a side. 10 lanes for bowling, 10 lanes for dancing.
I’ve got Pchee2 lining up the Rent-a-chicks, Imabagger is putting up the capital.
Therealstevesmith is lining up Chippendale dancers for the other side of the house to accommodate the women.
Sure looks like win-win situation to me.
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~~~SrK - Have balls, will travel
Spending the kids inheritance one tournament at a time.
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After doing extensive research, I’ve had plans drawn up for a bowling alley.
I’e found the busiest nights are Cosmic Bowling. Place is packed. Problem is kids don’t have any money, no bar sales, no profit.
League nights place is packed but everyone leaves about 9:30 after league, place goes dead, closes around 10, no bar sales, no profit.
My solution, Adult Cosmic Bowling. I got this idea when I visited Creekside lanes, Winston Salem, NC, home of the legendary Ron Clifton.
In Ron’s house the lanes are about 4 steps above the rest of the house, and instead of the lanes running continuously side by side, he has groups of lanes separated with islands that run down the side of the lanes. Really makes for a beautiful house.
Now here’s what my partners came up with.
We install the lanes above ground in groups of 4. Separate steps lead up to each pair of lanes. The side lanes though will have walkways and seating the entire length of the lane. We aren’t even going to put machines on them, just poles for the dancing girls.
No charge for bowling, everyone just pays a $20 cover charge. We won’t have any complaints about lane conditions, place will be packed every night, no one will really care about averages, guys will be showing up even on the nights they aren’t scheduled to bowl. No one will care if league runs till 2-3 AM.
House will be 40 lanes, 20 to a side. 10 lanes for bowling, 10 lanes for dancing.
I’ve got Pchee2 lining up the Rent-a-chicks, Imabagger is putting up the capital.
Therealstevesmith is lining up Chippendale dancers for the other side of the house to accommodate the women.
Sure looks like win-win situation to me.
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~~~SrK - Have balls, will travel
Spending the kids inheritance one tournament at a time.
Actually sounds like a good idea! Once you get a good reputation, you can start raising that cover price too.
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stanski
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It would be a 10 lane house - Retro Bowl. Wood lanes (if I could find them). Flat light oil shot. No modern balls allowed. Nothing but 3-piece plastic or rubber. Maybe a league or two, but mostly open play and retro tournaments, and pot games. Maybe a small bar & grill combo with classic Alley food from the 50's & 60's. Burgers, Fries, Dogs, Soup & Salad, sandwiches. Pin boys would be nice, but of course no Insurance Company would allow that! It wouldn't make money, but what the hell - it's a Lotto dream anyway, so profit will not be a factor. Just the "love of game".
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I would LIKE to run a big center, but in all reality EVERY larger alley I've been to SUCKED! They are never "about the people", its always about money! I would most likely have a 20 lane or so alley with a good pro shop, and I would carry everything, not just one brand so people could actually choose what they wanted instead of shoving stuff down their throat.
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16 years and still going strong! 16 years old that is!
The names Warrior Princess, Xena..Warrior Princess
And why would I "saw" pins in half, THATS A WASTE OF PINS!
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I think I would choose about a 32 lane house, though it would be very different. I would want it to focus around, one, the people, and this involve training the emplyees at the counter so they don't slack off (like in every center I have been to). Two, it would have to be very different, I would not want it to be your average rectangle shaped alley, something innovative and modern arcitecture wise. And three, have a great pro sho who would carry a nice balance of equipment, and not company biased either.
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"Contemplate the reason you exist..."
Formerly Maelstrom44, Maelstrom X, Maelstrom Zero, Maelstrom Axiom, Maelstrom Flux, Enigma, and Muon Ejector.
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20 lane house with strip club/bar.
Proceeds from bar/strip club will help keep the lanes immaculate! ... 
Edited on 11/15/2004 10:14 AM