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Buzzhead

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this is for the drilling gurus out there...
« on: June 17, 2009, 01:23:02 PM »
Take your typical once a week league bowler, average revs, average speed. (most of us) What percentage of them truly need a ball drilled any other way but label?


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FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!

Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

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Member of the FOS, if there happens to be a 9 pin standing just toss a saw and cut it down~~!

 

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Re: this is for the drilling gurus out there...
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2009, 09:37:13 PM »
if they come in looking for something to roll early that might be a problem, the only thing is what do u classify as typical anymore. The typical bowler in the house i bowl in spins it due to our house pattern being toast on the out side and soup in the middle. Label is a very safe drilling and does work well for a large group of people, but now a days i think it will tame down reaction for some that you may not want to tame it down for.
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Re: this is for the drilling gurus out there...
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2009, 09:54:13 PM »
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What percentage of them truly need a ball drilled any other way but label?


Don't take this as a slam, it isn't. Now using your question/statement, the average commuter only needs a GEO.

In what I see, talk to the different folks it's way more than "need". It's a desire, a want to improve, feel they are better. IMO no matter what's said, if a person "feels" better about what they are doing, they will do better and be happier.

To sort of answer your question, for me, I only need a 4-4 1/2" pin/pap. I want something that'll rev up a bit earlier so I have one that will, do I make it work all the time ? Nope, but I do 'feel' I try and for that, I feel better about what I'm doing and trying to do.

Given the strength of many balls, one could drill them the same for just about everyone and tell them to make it work, one could do that but you'd loose customers and make enemies.

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Re: this is for the drilling gurus out there...
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2009, 11:27:34 PM »
Better than 75%

I HATE how condition specific a label layout is for my game.
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Re: this is for the drilling gurus out there...
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2009, 12:37:44 AM »
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Take your typical once a week league bowler, average revs, average speed. (most of us) What percentage of them truly need a ball drilled any other way but label?


100% if you abandon ancient drilling theories and map out a bowling ball by a person's PAP.  "Label" for me is a 1 3/4 pin to axis distance, hardly the layout to hit the majority of conditions with.  In my pro shop database, I think my average customer PAP was around 4 5/8 > with 1/4-5/8 vertical.

Label, psssht.  Shred the Lane 1 drill sheet please.
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Re: this is for the drilling gurus out there...
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2009, 02:53:18 AM »
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Take your typical once a week league bowler, average revs, average speed. (most of us) What percentage of them truly need a ball drilled any other way but label?


100% if you abandon ancient drilling theories and map out a bowling ball by a person's PAP.  "Label" for me is a 1 3/4 pin to axis distance, hardly the layout to hit the majority of conditions with.  In my pro shop database, I think my average customer PAP was around 4 5/8 > with 1/4-5/8 vertical.

Label, psssht.  Shred the Lane 1 drill sheet please.
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I think you're correct, for all practical purposes. Label for me works out to 3.75 x 4, really close to a basic 4x4. When I say I drilled something "label," I see the eyes start rolling until I explain what exactly that ends up being for me.

If he had phrased the question as what percentage of league bowlers need anything besides 4x4, then I think he's probably right. That doesn't stop me from experimenting, though.

Jess
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