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When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« on: January 19, 2020, 11:03:59 AM »
Anybody know anything yet?
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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2020, 08:07:46 PM »
Market wasn't shrinking, was on year 3 of growth.
20 years of decline, 3 years flat and then 3 years growth so far.
Whats next? Who knows, maybe the timing was right to sell, maybe they were as far as they could go.
Owners/Investors got a good ROI and made a business decision

only Osha violation I found is from 2016, nothing major, $6,300.00 fine
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/prog.php?parent=&major_industry_sum=&primary_offense_sum=&agency_sum=&agency_sum_st=&hq_id_sum=&company_op=starts&company=ebonite&major_industry%5B%5D=&case_category=&all_offense%5B%5D=&penalty_op=%3E&penalty=&govt_level=&agency_code%5B%5D=&agency_code_st%5B%5D=&pen_year%5B%5D=&pres_term=&free_text=&case_type=&ownership%5B%5D=&hq_id=&naics%5B%5D=&state=&city=

The bankruptcy filing you mentioned had nothing to do with Ebonite International end of things.

Factory was old, definitely looked that way when I did the tour last fall
but they were pouring 20 hours a day/6 days a week.
They couldn't keep up.

Doesn't much matter now, every single person in that building lost their job, including the CEO. Some got on with Brunswick and other companies.
Some did not.

Just sad to see jobs lost to Mexico

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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2020, 04:17:38 PM »
Market wasn't shrinking, was on year 3 of growth.
20 years of decline, 3 years flat and then 3 years growth so far.
Whats next? Who knows, maybe the timing was right to sell, maybe they were as far as they could go.
Owners/Investors got a good ROI and made a business decision

only Osha violation I found is from 2016, nothing major, $6,300.00 fine
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/prog.php?parent=&major_industry_sum=&primary_offense_sum=&agency_sum=&agency_sum_st=&hq_id_sum=&company_op=starts&company=ebonite&major_industry%5B%5D=&case_category=&all_offense%5B%5D=&penalty_op=%3E&penalty=&govt_level=&agency_code%5B%5D=&agency_code_st%5B%5D=&pen_year%5B%5D=&pres_term=&free_text=&case_type=&ownership%5B%5D=&hq_id=&naics%5B%5D=&state=&city=

The bankruptcy filing you mentioned had nothing to do with Ebonite International end of things.

Factory was old, definitely looked that way when I did the tour last fall
but they were pouring 20 hours a day/6 days a week.
They couldn't keep up.

Doesn't much matter now, every single person in that building lost their job, including the CEO. Some got on with Brunswick and other companies.
Some did not.

Just sad to see jobs lost to Mexico

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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2020, 04:39:38 PM »
Was just curious how you could tell that the beams were covered in asbestos? Just because the insulation is sprayed on doesn’t mean it is asbestos. That way of insulation is still used widely and it does not contain asbestos.

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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2020, 07:03:47 PM »
I looked at the bankruptcy filing that was referenced.  It was Aceto Corporation that file for Chapter 11 and Ebonite International was simply listed on the service list meaning that they were served notice of Aceto Corporations filing, they were either a creditor or a customer of Aceto Corporations.  Has nothing to do with Ebonite and in no way means that they filed for bankruptcy.

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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2020, 07:49:31 AM »
True or not I have no idea but I was told the only brand they are keeping is Hammer.  Everything else is gone.

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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2020, 10:06:36 AM »
True or not I have no idea but I was told the only brand they are keeping is Hammer.  Everything else is gone.

I'd be pretty surprised at that since they started the magnificent 7 marketing and paid to register all the brands with the PBA
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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2020, 12:13:32 PM »
I'm hearing 6 months or so
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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2020, 02:02:29 PM »
True or not I have no idea but I was told the only brand they are keeping is Hammer.  Everything else is gone.

False.


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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2020, 06:23:50 PM »
All 7 brands are PBA registered for the next 3 years. The first new balls from our new brands will be out soon.
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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2020, 07:38:42 AM »
All 7 brands are PBA registered for the next 3 years. The first new balls from our new brands will be out soon.

Thanks for chiming in, Nick!

Interested to see the new pieces and what, if anything tech wise comes over from the old EBI stuff (cores etc).
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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2020, 09:04:34 AM »
It will be an exciting year for sure, there is a lot to look forward to.
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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2020, 10:30:07 AM »
So are they still going to make anything current like GBs, Beasts, Messengers, Destinys, Ballers, Chaos, Webs, Sauce, Vibes, etc...?
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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2020, 12:09:28 PM »
Can't comment on future product strategy, sorry.
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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2020, 01:18:15 PM »
Thanks by the way for the update Nick.  Looking forward to seeing what the rest of the year holds.
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Re: When is Brunswick going to start making the Ebonite brands?
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2020, 01:32:25 PM »
Just my opinion here but I would think that they need to try to replicate the Purple. If they can duplicate it that will likely go a long way and the price of the remaining few to be found would drop.  Show that you can't duplicate it and you'll see even more people run to storm and motiv. Try to avoid balls previously made by EBI and it'll look like you give up on trying to make the same or better quality.