Ok, so here is the deal. I've been struggling getting a consistent release for several months. My avg has dropped right at 5 pins. Friday night, a guy two lanes down (who is a very good bowler) came down after the first game and told me that I'm throwing the ball relying to much on my fingers and that I'm not palming the ball up until the point of release. He suggested that the ball was probably to loose in the thumb and it was starting to slip off of my hand prior to the release which was causing me to grab the ball at the bottom of my swing which was throwing everything off. I did as he suggested and got a much better roll. Here's the strange part, I think that I've been throwing the ball off the tip of my thumb since I started bowling 7 years ago, noone ever noticed what I was doing wrong and this guy just happened to see my hand at the foul line as he was walking back from his shot. He told me the key to consistent roll and hand release is to almost palm the ball like a basket ball and use your entire hand to get the turn and roll on the ball. Does this make sense to everyone? Any input is really appreciated. Thanks in advance