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Doc Hollywood

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What was that again?
« on: January 29, 2004, 06:23:26 PM »
With a few posters recently talking about short oil and long oil I got thinking how many of you bowlers who are struggling to get the finish you are looking for at the pin deck even though you get to the pocket fairly consistently.  Most of the time the angle is only slighty off and changing axis rotation is too large of a change.  I remember watching Earl Anthony demonstrate things with a bowling ball that was just amazing.  He changed the length of the breakpoint by changing his wrist position.  This often times changed the angle to the pocket just enough for him to increase his carry percentage.

If you flatten the wrist you have more skid and late revs.  If you cup the wrist you have less skid and more revs.

Flat wrist = go long and snap, gets through heads without expending energy saves it for later.

Cupped wrist = arc, starts early expends more energy earlier.

Also with the flattened wrist it helps you get through the heads better ala the drag shot.

So if you struggle with carry you might want to try this technique.

If you have comments on this post them here.  If you have success post them here as well.


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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2004, 09:44:20 AM »
Good point clutch.  I was trying to make it much simpler for when someone is lined up and just can't get the carry they are looking for.
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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2004, 09:46:53 AM »
My approach is more in line with what Clutch said above. I try to leave the wrist out of my changes. If I am forced move inside I want to come across the ball more to the side to change my axis angle. Wrist curl for me is harder to repeat. That's just for me though, I know some can acheive similar effects with the wrist.
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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2004, 11:18:10 AM »
Okay, how about moving your target closer or further away? I never have truly understood why it matters so much, but it definitely makes a huge difference. Can anyone explain that one to me?
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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2004, 11:34:40 AM »
Kendog,

The reason it makes so much difference, is think of looking at the arrows.  You roll a few balls and the ball just doesn't quite get back to the pocket.  By looking at the dots, it gets you to set the ball down sooner, which in turn get the ball into a roll sooner.  That is great for heavier oil patterns.  On the other hand, you look at the dots or even the arrows.  The ball is having a hard time getting down the lane.  By looking farther down the lane (down to the arrows or farther), you help project the ball, or what we call "push" the ball for a later breakpoint.  Something so simple can sometimes make a huge difference.
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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2004, 12:07:32 PM »
How about smashing your middle finger before you pick up the ball. It will keep you from squeezing the ball and make you roll it more with the ring finger. Although I dont know howmuch pain one could stand after doing it once or twice.
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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2004, 12:27:36 PM »
This will mess up your adjustment scenario as far as targets go. I had been targeting at the arrows since I started bowling. Always had a problem with my ball hooking up too early.

I found that I never could be very consistent hitting my mark that way, so I switched to the cherry dots between the foul line and the arrows. The effect was that I have become much more consistent at hitting my mark. The funny thing is I also have changed from swinging the ball third or fourth arrow to playing 20 at the line ,across 12-13 at the arrows. I don't have the problem of rolling up too early anymore at all.
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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2004, 12:47:30 PM »
One part of that is definitely true, I do focus on NOT lofting the ball, but, I do generate at least as many revs as ever, and I can still move inside if needed (but I try real hard not to). Also, my ball speed is up. I notice that I project better now than I ever did before. I feel as though keeping my head down to focus on the nearer mark in turn helps me to stay down through my entire release and that helps me get the ball down the lane with a better backend reaction. Does that make sense?
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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2004, 12:52:48 PM »
What exactly is the suitcase throw? I have heard it can be used on dry lanes with some success.

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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2004, 01:05:42 PM »
i don't change my hand position. my wrist is always kept "straight". when there is enough oil in the heads for a down and in shot i'll come up the back of the ball with an end over end roll. when the oil starts to dry up i'll move in and swing it----with my hand coming around the side of the ball just a bit. i spoke with david ozio at a pba regional several years ago and he recommended this as opposed to cupping or cocking your wrist. i tried his advice and it really worked for me.

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Re: What was that again?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2004, 01:22:01 PM »
Thanks Bones, tried the suitcase  a couple of times in practice never was consistent. I was most likely doing it wrong. At slower speeds it seemed to go long then the ball would just snap left.