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JackedUp

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Rules question
« on: October 12, 2007, 06:53:23 AM »
I recently got back into bowling after not bowling for about 20 years.  I have always had a problem of my thumb swelling and sticking by the third game.  I tried making the thumb hole bigger but then I had problems not being able to hold onto the ball the first 2 games.  I don't like using tape so I used baby powder on my thumb but someone recently told me that it wasn't legal.  Is that true?  Thanks
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Re: Rules question
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2007, 03:01:09 PM »
It's legal on your thumb, just not on your shoes or anywhere that it may get on the approach area.
Anyone out there heard anything different?

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Re: Rules question
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2007, 03:03:36 PM »
As long as the substance (baby powder, resin, whatever) gets wiped off of the outside of the ball then that should be fine unless league rules state otherwise.  Just make sure you don't get any powders on the floor.  That's definitely a no-no.
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Re: Rules question
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2007, 03:09:32 PM »
What you do to the "inside" of the ball is not covered in any rules. However, should some powder be on the outside of the ball, someone might pitch a fit and that's covered.

I'd say as long as you wiped the ball off, had no powder on the outside and made sure none was on the return, you're legal. Sounds silly to pitch a fit, but you know there's someone out there that would/will.
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dechrist

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Re: Rules question
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2007, 03:13:58 PM »
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What you do to the "inside" of the ball is not covered in any rules. However, should some powder be on the outside of the ball, someone might pitch a fit and that's covered.

I'd say as long as you wiped the ball off, had no powder on the outside and made sure none was on the return, you're legal. Sounds silly to pitch a fit, but you know there's someone out there that would/will.
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I know from experience.  You'd be surprised, but there are folks that will gripe about it, even if you wipe the residue off.  Every league I've been in has told me to make sure I wipe the excess off, and I'm fine.
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Re: Rules question
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2007, 03:28:49 PM »
I have seen bowlers hit their ball with a rosin bag. Is this okay?
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Re: Rules question
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2007, 03:30:32 PM »
Like the others have said, just wipe the ball clean and make sure not to get excess on the floor.
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Re: Rules question
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2007, 03:30:37 PM »
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I have seen bowlers hit their ball with a rosin bag. Is this okay?


I do exactly that when I get too sweaty.  As long as you wipe the residue, you're usually okay (see my replies above).
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Re: Rules question
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2007, 03:31:06 PM »
Yes, if they wipe the excess powder from the surface of the ball before throwing it.  Having that little bit of rosin in the thumb hole can make a big difference for some people.

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Re: Rules question
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2007, 09:05:19 PM »
Using powder in the thumb hole is legal, but it shouldn't be necessary.  Since your thumb swells, try a Magic Carpet.  Drill the hole 1/32" larger than you normally use and put the MC on the back of the hole.  Send Ron C. an e-mail, you can find his address on his web site, link below, and he'll send you a free sample.  That's how he gets us hooked.  A trick you can use to help minimize the swelling is to sip on ice water and suck on ice while you bowl.  Keeps your body temperature down.  --  JohnP

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Re: Rules question
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2007, 10:05:41 AM »
I guess I should have explained this better. They are not using the rosin bag on the holes. They are hitting it in the track area of the ball.
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shelley

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Re: Rules question
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2007, 10:27:56 AM »
If they wipe it off before they bowl, I don't see why they cannot do that.  They must ensure that the stuff is off of the entire ball.

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Re: Rules question
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2007, 10:55:03 AM »
trash heap, IF you wanted to, you could have the balls thrown out and probably the games as well. Chapter 7, Section 1 b 2, as well as Rule 18.

It kinda depends on if you call rosin an abrasive or not. In the case of hitting the track, it doesn't matter if they wipe it off, they are applying an abrasive to the outside of the ball. There again, if you call rosin an abrasive.

I know there's a couple older Ebonite cleaners that if I remember right had rosin in it and they were considered to contain abrasives. IF I remember right.

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Edited on 10/13/2007 11:00 AM
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Re: Rules question
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2007, 05:25:02 AM »
trahs Hearp, It doesn't matter if you consider rosin and abraisive or not, USBC Rule Chapter 7, 1b2 says that "No foreign material may be placed on the outer surface of the ball."  

Since rosin is a foreign material, therefor it cannot be left on the ball surface, you must wipe it off.  If these bowlers are using it on the track area of the ball and not wiping it off, they are definately breaking the rules.
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