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Title: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: tenpin477 on January 10, 2009, 04:21:47 PM
Was bowling a tourney today. Don't expect to make the cut its usually outrageously high, like 740. But bowling a squad today i was involved in the eliminator, which pays some decent money, and got crushed by a pocket 8-10.

I made the first cut by 2 pins, was the second cut, and in the third game a pocket 8-10 turned what would have been a 258(i struck out after it) into a 226, and kept me from being first in the eliminator to third.

Just needed to rant, god I hate leaving 8-10s.
Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: themagician on January 11, 2009, 12:25:14 AM
Thats rough, I don't think i've ever left an 8-10 without throwing a shot that wasn't good, i've hit pocket and left it but normally the ball has rolled out or hooked out and is just dead at the deck.
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: tenpin477 on January 11, 2009, 12:27:30 AM
Well it was a lane i was kind of lost on. I had the left lane figured, the right lane gave me a little trouble, the whole game though, and i came in just a pinch light and left an 8-10. I then moved 1 board to the right for the 9th frame and went dead flush, it just took me most of a game to strike over there.
Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: Soaring Eagle on January 11, 2009, 09:40:42 AM
I myself do not like the 8-10. I was bowling a tournament a couple of weeks ago.  At the time I did not know how close I was being in the cut, going into the 10 left a solid 8-10.  Found out after the squad that I missed the cut by 8 pins.  Very dissapointing.
Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: iowalefty on January 11, 2009, 12:39:49 PM
i bet walter ray does.
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: sdbowler on January 11, 2009, 12:40:26 PM
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: Rev_O on January 11, 2009, 06:27:22 PM
Never left an 8-10
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: Hogsharley on January 11, 2009, 06:29:17 PM
quote:
Never left an 8-10



Not even in Wii bowling?
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: Necromancer on January 11, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
On pocket shots, the worst breaks I ever get are the 7-10.  My ball always nails the 8 pin no matter what.
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: on January 11, 2009, 06:36:57 PM
If I bowl 50 games, I'll get it once or twice.  

I play a week ball(s) that will not recover on dry lanes when I swing them out, so my only real option if I ever face some extreme dry is to take a lot of hand out.  So... It goes in very flat and deflects if it is not DEAD flush.
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: Dan Belcher on January 11, 2009, 06:45:45 PM
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On pocket shots, the worst breaks I ever get are the 7-10.  My ball always nails the 8 pin no matter what.
You know, the ball itself shouldn't hit the 8 pin normally on a flush pocket hit.  If it does hit the 8, that's a good way to leave a 4 pin or a stone 9 or stone 7.
Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: snowgimp on January 11, 2009, 09:24:29 PM
I used to hate it alot as a rev challenged kid...as a rev challenged adult I haven't left it for 5 years or so and it did kinda make me mad.  Reason being I moved left after leaving a flush 7-9 the frame before on that lane.
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: Joe Jr on January 11, 2009, 09:28:16 PM
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Never left an 8-10
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Hell even i've left the 8-10 and i'm a lefty.
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: Necromancer on January 11, 2009, 09:30:12 PM
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Wow... was this topic ever a premonition...
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: cpo_bee on January 12, 2009, 09:27:41 AM
Unlike Rev-O, I MAY have left an 8-10 (I would need video evidence to confess) but I've never taken out 4 through the face.
Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: blacknois on January 12, 2009, 09:30:38 AM
there is no such thing as a "crushed" pocket 8-10
Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: Oskuposer on January 12, 2009, 09:33:17 AM
some some hand or slow down.  The way i leave an 8-10 is if its a 2-8-10 and then a pin hits the 2 over and the 8 10 is up other then that it would just be a weak ten
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: Dan Belcher on January 12, 2009, 09:40:44 AM
If you're striking prior to leaving the 8-10, your entry angle normally isn't that bad.  However, if you left an 8-10, you threw a bad shot.  I've seen people with high rev rates leave them a few times just because they threw it too fast and the ball skated through the puddle in the middle of the house shot, for example.  A little extra deflection with a small entry angle on a light hit is all it takes, just like leaving the 7-10 off a light pocket hit.

Last year, I threw the ball like absolute dogsh*t once after getting the front 9 and left an 8-10 on the first ball of the 10th frame.  Cost me the chance at a 300, cost me all of the jackpots that game (all I had to do was mark and I would have swept the pots that game), and I'm pretty sure it cost my team the game as well.  I can count the number of times I've left the 8-10 since then on one hand.  So yes, I too hate the 8-10.
Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: VxSaUcYxV on January 12, 2009, 09:44:53 AM
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there is no such thing as a "crushed" pocket 8-10

You never know, there could be someone out there that has crushed the pocket and left it. Just the other day I was telling my friend I think it's almost impossible to leave a solid 7-9. Well later that day.... It happened so you never know.
Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: iowalefty on January 12, 2009, 10:31:24 AM
i have left an 8-10 after the front 8..that hurt.  growing up i left a few 7-9's, but i dont think i have left a 7-9 except when the 3 pin fell.  picked up the 7-9 a couple of years ago.

the only way to leave a crushed 8-10 is really by being a lefty..and THAT'S a bad break a righty leaving it is just weak in the pocket.

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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: JohnP on January 12, 2009, 10:58:50 AM
Back in the early 70's I threw what I thought was a perfect shot in my Thursday night men's league.  And I did what I had seen others do at times, I turned my back and came back to sit down.  My friend said "You left an 8 - 10."  I said, without looking, "No way that ball left an 8 - 10!"  Well, of course it did, and I've never turned my back on a strike ball since.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: mainzer on January 12, 2009, 11:27:44 AM
I see the 8-10 often enough if I get a little fast or not quite hit it hard enough at the bottom.

I absolutely murdered the pocket on night and left a 7-9 people are still laughing about it.
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: OddBalls on January 12, 2009, 11:33:50 AM
Ihaven't left an 8 10 in quite a while, BUT I've left two solid 7-9's in the past few months..

Don't even wanna talk about the 7-10's I've left..lol..
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: jbruno6 on January 12, 2009, 12:03:48 PM
A 7-9 leave for a righty is a weird leave, borderline bad break.

A pocket 7-10, or a sweep 7-10 is a tough break, but even that shot is not great or not pured.

But an 8-10 leave is never a good shot.  That is never a bad break, that is just a bad shot.  Too much speed, with no entry, and no hand.

Of course this is my opinion, but some will probably agree with it, some won't.
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: SleepOnIce on January 12, 2009, 01:21:46 PM
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some some hand or slow down.  The way i leave an 8-10 is if its a 2-8-10 and then a pin hits the 2 over and the 8 10 is up


Same here, although when I was younger I used to leave it when I got a little fast and tugged it. Admittedly I probably had 2 revs on the ball.
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Title: Re: Who else hates the 8-10
Post by: JohnP on January 12, 2009, 02:38:56 PM
Back in the day of rubber and plastic balls and flatter patterns, 8 - 10's were fairly common, the ball didn't drive through the pins like it does today.  --  JohnP